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Old 08-19-2008, 06:50 PM
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Anyone have any idea?

With the copyright mood today, the answer is probably never. But formally, when will the copyright expire?
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Wow! I never thought about that. I don't think they will ever since there's some many entities holding some or other rights. I will try to find out though.
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I would say that the copyright is initially held by the C.S. Lewis Estate, with the publication rights under possession of HarperCollins.
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What do you mean by public domain? Like someone else other than Lewis's family owning the rights to the books?
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What do you mean by public domain? Like someone else other than Lewis's family owning the rights to the books?
The law now in USA, afaik, is 70 years after author`s death. Then, anyone can use the works.
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The law now in USA, afaik, is 70 years after author`s death. Then, anyone can use the works.
Only if copyright is not renewed by the holder, in this case the Lewis Estate. I guarantee you they are not going to let it expire.
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What do you mean by public domain? Like someone else other than Lewis's family owning the rights to the books?
Public domain mean NO ONE owns the rights anymore. When a work becomes public domain, ANYONE can quote, use, download, etc. part or all of the story without asking for permission and without violating copyright.
like this website that has thousands of books that have become public domain for download. Enjoy
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Only if copyright is not renewed by the holder, in this case the Lewis Estate. I guarantee you they are not going to let it expire.
Can copyright be renewed endlessly? Or is there a (clear) limit for it?
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Can copyright be renewed endlessly? Or is there a (clear) limit for it?
Good question. I don't know, and I can find nothing online to tell me.

If renewal is a one-time deal,then the Narnia books, having been published in the 50s and their copyrights renewed once after 28 years (the renewal deadline under copyright law at that time), then subjected to the amendments to copyright law since then, will enter public domain around 2046, if I'm figuring correctly.

The "70 years after death of the author" thing only applies to stuff published since 1978. The law was different before then.
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"The "70 years after death of the author" thing only applies to stuff published since 1978. The law was different before then."

You may be right, Sunrise, but from what I got from the sites I visited, the 70-year rule applied to all works that were still under copyright protection (as well as some whose copyright had expired but hadn't pased the 70-year mark I believe).

It would be sest answered by someone in UK publishing or who definitively knows the law over there.

I guess one could ask someone at CS Lewis Pte. Ltd.

According to this Narnia site, the copyrights for each book were renewed in the years 1978-1984 (one per year based on published order--28 years after first publication).

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