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Old 12-17-2006, 02:05 PM
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Indeed you did prove your point, Elindil, and admirably! Incidentally, although kung-fu movies do often endow their heroes with impossible powers (and note that they pretend their heroes can have these powers IN THE REAL WORLD, not a fantasy world), there is a different sense in which they retain some realism. I refer to the unhappy fact that some evil men enjoy the undeserved good luck to be stronger than most good men. Therefore, in kung-fu movies, you'll frequently see TWO heroes double-teaming against ONE extra-powerful villain, and no one regards the heroes as cowardly for doing so. (Of course, by the time this climactic fight occurs, the villain has done so much abusing of the helpless that no one in the audience feels any pity for him when he's outnumbered.)


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Oh; thanks E.S. Don't know why that lense thing was confusing me.

Yeah, good job Elindil. That made sense.
While we're on this subject i'd like to bring up another fact: when writing about fighting/action, say two Kung-Foo masters dueling it out, you have to be very specific and clear with what is happening. So much happens in such a short space of time, that a five-second fight makes four paragraphs of writing. I've found its very hard to make smooth reading when describing a fight. The writing often becomes thick, and whenever I read something like that i'm tempted to skip over it.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:51 PM
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I know just what you mean about capturing rapid physical action in the form of words. I have written two heroic-fantasy novels (unpublished, of course; many of you know how that goes) involving a hero sort of like a Christian Jackie Chan, and I struggled with giving an adequate picture of combat while not getting bogged down. What often worked best was "hitting the highlights." In one crucial fight early in his career, my hero, Mo'ajin, was up against two kickboxers at once. Most of the fight I related in terse fashion without details; but then I tried for colorful language at the turning point, when both foes landed simultaneous kicks in Mo'ajin's ribs from opposite sides. I described my hero's sensation at that instant as "an impact like being chewed by colossal jaws." (Mo'ajin lost that fight, but he NEVER lost another one from then on--except the fight to get published!)
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:00 AM
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So let's take a look at poetry, beginning with one of the few classical-form sonnets I've written in my time. It started with my noticing that the numerous early specks of green on trees in spring were like droplets in a mist; then this neutral visual observation became tied in to thoughts about those who "worship the creation rather than the Creator."

In the poem you will see what I meant by saying elsewhere that comparisons do not have to correspond EXACTLY to the thing being paralleled. My image of robins here is only meant to connote something recurring—not to say that robins are in character like the deniers of God whom this poem rebukes. What is particularly being rebuked is the notion that, instead of spring reminding us of resurrection, the idea of any literal resurrection is itself only a figurative reminder of spring, with earthly nature being all that matters. ///


The trees condense a cloud of leafy mist;
And, like the robins coming home to perch,
Once more the skeptic and materialist
Wield springtime as a flail against the church.
“Your Resurrection’s just a metaphor
Of spring’s renewal!” Saying this, they tell
The world that they don’t know, or they ignore,
The different climate in old Israel.
There, winter was the growing time, and spring
Meant harvest, endings, dryness—not rebirth;
Yet there and then the resurrected King
Leaped far above the seasons of the Earth.
While spring, as we know spring, serves for a sign,
There’s more than metaphor in the Divine.


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I don't think I'm made to write poems...
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In poetry, one can start VERY small. When I was a kid, there was a fad called "terse verse," in which you would make up a title much longer than the poem which followed it. Examples:

THE SAGA OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WILE E. COYOTE BOUGHT A FIGHTER JET TO ATTACK THE ROAD RUNNER , BUT THE ROAD RUNNER GOT INTO THE COCKPIT FIRST AND MADE OFF WITH THE PLANE

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I once wrote this for a lion cub's grave marker. It is meant to be evocative of the style of Robert Louis Stevenson's "Child's garden of verses":

THE GENTLE KINGDOM

By Heaven's waters sweet and clean
A herd of wildebeests is seen
Relieving thirst, and by their side
The members of a lion pride

A cub and calf engage in play
As side by side their elders lay
And angels kneel with mercy mild
To touch the calf and lion child

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Old 12-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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Was that for a real-world lion cub at a zoo, or a Narnian lion cub in a Byron-On-Wells story?
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I write poetry too. They tell me I'm pretty good. I would post some here, except that I still cherish hopes of entering competitions or being published. And I hear that publishers are beginning to look online to be sure that people are not submitting plagiarized work as their own. Since it might be tough to prove that I really am "Lady of Lorien," I'm afraid to post my best work here. Any ideas?
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Copperfox, alas, real world lion cub. I've been doing rescue work for years and it wears a body. One of the hardest things you can do is fall in love with someone that ages six times more rapidly than you.

Once I sent some verse for a plaque for a wolf and coyote rescue ranch to go in their cemetary. Though I can't quote it off the top of my head, the focus was on the fact these were not bodies but merely paw prints left behind from a journey to a better world.

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