Right, I thought the same thing about Wormtongue/AlfredSpoilers Alert:
I just saw 5 Armies today. I am pretty squeamish though, so I missed most of the battle action hiding my eyes behind my husband's cap. What I did see though I liked especially the scenes with Bard's family... and Galadriel was magnificent. I also thought Alfred's cowardice was laughable; why people kept trusting him I still can not fathom. His character kind of prefigured Wormtongue but of course he was more of a doofus.
CF answered this -- they weren't really in the Hobbit book. And I agree with BK, they should have had more to do in the battle, like in Tremors, as long as they were there. But then again, so should Beorn have had more to do in the battle! He got slighted in these films - although when he was in the film, I really liked what they did with his character, all Dracula-sounding.Benisse said:What happened to the giant worms after they tunneled through? and were they mentioned in the Hobbit (I don't remember them)?
Nope, I couldn't figure that out either*. In the book, it is all one big Goblin army, as I recall. The "five armies" in the book are:Could you explain the difference between the two orc armies to me?
- Goblins (and Goblins with Wargs, the Wargs kinda got lost here, too)
- Dwarves
- Elves
- Men
- Eagles (who arrive at the end and make a huge difference, just like in LOTR film)
I think he was heartbroken over Tauriel and MAD at his father, real mad at him for saying Tauriel was exiled in the first place and being such a tough guy in the previous film. I felt like Legolas was saying he'd had enough of these tetchy woodland elves and would go find some gallant ones in Rivendell.What do you think Legolas was thinking when he decided not to return to his elfen kingdom? Was it because he was heartbroken over Tauriel? But since she is not canonical, what do you imagine would be her fate?
Why do you think Bilbo using the ring during his exploits did not seem to call any attention to the One Ring from the evil elements?
I think that Sauron was too busy fighting off the council, and then being blasted back into the east to notice that the ring had surfaced. Because, you know, Gollum had been using it now and then, too, without attracting any attention. I got the idea that Sauron had to be almost on the point of incarnated again for him to be able to call up the wraiths and feel the ring's power when it was used.
*EDIT:
I just read this, which explains the "two Orc armies" -- it was one army divided, and part of it was sent to attack the city of Dale rather than attacking the massed armies at the foot of the Lonely Mountain:
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Five_ArmiesLOTR Wiki said:In the third installment The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies, the Orc army led by Azog attacks the Lonely Mountain and the conflict between the Dwarves, Men and Elves is quickly averted. Dain's army is the first to charge at the Orcs and they are later reinforced by the Men and Thranduil's army. However, Azog sends the rest of his forces to attack Dale but Bilbo, Gandalf, Bard, and the other Elves come to its defense. While Gandalf, Thranduil, Bard, and Dain do the best they can to hold off the Orc armies as more and more come, many Dwarves, Elves, and Men are killed.