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ABright5
07-12-2006, 04:22 PM
I was just thinking.

We know the first names of all the pevensies, but do we ever find out what Prince Caspian's first name is?

I don't remember ever reading it.

What do you think?
Elf Of The Grey Havens
07-12-2006, 04:23 PM
Caspian's name is just that... Caspian. What we don't have is his last name!
tottyfruitty
07-12-2006, 04:33 PM
lmfo
i never noticed that before!!
ABright5
07-12-2006, 04:35 PM
Caspian's name is just that... Caspian. What we don't have is his last name!

But is Caspian his First name then?

I always assumed it was his last name, but then again, if we look at Queen Elizabeth (Currently England's Queen) her first name comes after her title.
tottyfruitty
07-12-2006, 04:36 PM
But is Caspian his First name then?

I always assumed it was his last name, but then again, if we look at Queen Elizabeth (Currently England's Queen) her first name comes after her title.
yeah i would think that caspian was his first name like Prince William etc!!
Aslan's Beloved Daughter
07-12-2006, 05:11 PM
His first name is Caspian. He's just a prince that's named Caspian. But, what's his last name? Dun dun dun!
Elf Of The Grey Havens
07-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Probably "of Telmar" I mean, what's Queen Elizabeth's last name? Royalty doesn't have last names.
ABright5
07-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Probably "of Telmar" I mean, what's Queen Elizabeth's last name? Royalty doesn't have last names.

It's Elizabeth Winsor.
http://www.madjbright.co.uk/Alex/Lol.dat

Everyone has last names.
http://www.madjbright.co.uk/Alex/Lol.dat
Aravis Kenobi
07-12-2006, 05:38 PM
Maybe Lewis didn't want anyone to know Caspian's last name. :p
ABright5
07-12-2006, 05:42 PM
Just like he didn't want anyone to know Caspian's wife's name.
Narborg
07-12-2006, 06:22 PM
It's Elizabeth Winsor.
http://www.madjbright.co.uk/Alex/Lol.dat

Everyone has last names.
http://www.madjbright.co.uk/Alex/Lol.dat


Not always. sernames have not always been.
Aslan's Beloved Daughter
07-12-2006, 06:23 PM
Maybe... he's one interesting person!
ABright5
07-12-2006, 06:23 PM
Not always. sernames have not always been.

Since Surnames were invented.
http://www.madjbright.co.uk/Alex/Lol.dat
Cyon Corell
07-13-2006, 01:17 AM
I would presume that Caspian is his first name. As for his last name, it would probably come from the name of his House/Dynasty. Megas Alexandros was of the Argeads (my House), which derived from the name of a mythical ancestor, Argos (I think that he was supposed to be the Argonauts shipbuilder, but he could have been the founding king of the city of Argos). Unless Caspian had someother mythical ancestor, besides his forebear Caspian the Conqueror, I can't see where a surname would derive from. Perhaps, assuming there is a seperate and independent Telmarine language, the word for conqueror, victorious warrior, or saviour (similar to Soter, Bhadur, or Khan) could serve as a surname (name of his royal House). But none is given, at least specifically. So, I geuss we're left to speculate.

See ya on the flipside,

Cyon Corell
LifeMaiden
07-13-2006, 05:23 AM
Caspian's name is just that... Caspian. What we don't have is his last name!


Caspian isn't the only one with no last name. It seems that Rilian and Tirian didn't have last names either, and come to think of it, neither did Miraz or King Frank and Queen Helen.


CS Lewis created such interesting names like Caspian for the rulers that all they needed was that one name alone. :D
ABright5
07-13-2006, 05:41 AM
Caspian isn't the only one with no last name. It seems that Rilian and Tirian didn't have last names either, and come to think of it, neither did Miraz or King Frank and Queen Helen.


CS Lewis created such interesting names like Caspian for the rulers that all they needed was that one name alone. :D

That's a good point.

Mrs McCreedy (sp) didn't have a first name either, did she?
LifeMaiden
07-13-2006, 06:08 AM
That's a good point.

Mrs McCreedy (sp) didn't have a first name either, did she?

No...come to think of it...did Polly and Digory have last names or did Uncle Andrew? I can't remember.
ABright5
07-13-2006, 07:31 AM
No...come to think of it...did Polly and Digory have last names or did Uncle Andrew? I can't remember.

Digory Kirke (hense Professor Kirke in LWW)
Polly Plummer

Don't think Andrew has a surname, but I don't think it's Kirke, because he's Digory's uncle on his mother's side
umbrellaxscenexcore
07-13-2006, 02:35 PM
did you guys notice, mrs.pevensie's first name is helen, and nanria's first queen's name is helen,too.what's up with that?
ABright5
07-13-2006, 02:36 PM
She was called Hellen because it's Georgie's mother's name, and it sounded more believable with that name.

They also tried Violet and something else.
ramandu's_daughter
07-13-2006, 02:36 PM
Digory Kirke (hense Professor Kirke in LWW)
Polly Plummer

Don't think Andrew has a surname, but I don't think it's Kirke, because he's Digory's uncle on his mother's side
Andrew's last name is Ketterley.
Elf Of The Grey Havens
07-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Andrew Ketterly, taken from Polly: "Is Mr. Ketterly really mad?"
I think that The Conqueror is the closest we can get to a surname for the line of Caspians. Like Aravis, she uses "Tarkheena" as her last name, but it's her title. It's unlikely that the line of Caspians EVER had surnames, considering the were descended from pirates, and pirates don't often have/use surnames.
LadyEm
07-13-2006, 02:56 PM
In the book, Mrs. Pevensie never had a first name.
In the movie, they used Georgie's mom's name, Helen.
It's a nice touch because not only is it Georgie's name, but it is also the first Queen of Narnia's name.

It wasn't CS Lewis who gave the name, but it was very in keeping with Narnia, and a nice tribute. :)

It seems to me that in Narnia, if you were born there, nobody had first names and that those who were born in England did.

There are different traditions in Narnia, and perhaps the whole last name thing was apart of them.
If you notice, while in Narnia the four Pevensies aren't referred to by their last names by anybody there...they are King Peter, Queen Susan, King Edmund and Queen Lucy.

Interestingly, King Frank wasn't referred to as King Frank until he became the first King of Narnia. He was simply called the Cabby. Also, Frank seems to refer to his wife as "Nellie" though perhaps that could be a nickname from Helen.

This is the first reference to Queen Helen:

"If you please sir," said Queen Helen (for that is what Nellie the cabman's wife now was)...

It seems to be in tradition of Narnia.
Tumnus was only ever Tumnus the Faun.
The beavers were Mr. and Mrs. Beaver, but that is like being called Mr. Human and Mrs. Human - it wasn't their names.
Elf Of The Grey Havens
07-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Heyy, LadyEm, long time no see!
And yeah, that's another thing, the animal names. I mean, "Badger" and "Beaver" can hardly be names!
Lucy_QueenofNarnia
07-13-2006, 05:28 PM
I don't think Caspian has a last name-- or even if he does, they never used it :) he was known as a bunch of different things, like Caspian the 10th and Caspian the Sea-Farer, wasn't he? So he doesn't really have a last name.
Aslan's Beloved Daughter
07-13-2006, 07:50 PM
And if he does, it would be about where he was born or something like that.
jesuschick
07-13-2006, 10:51 PM
That is wierd.
Ramandu's daughter does not have a name at all!!!!
LifeMaiden
07-13-2006, 11:50 PM
That is wierd.
Ramandu's daughter does not have a name at all!!!!


Yeah. Even though she wasn't in the book VOTDT a lot, she did become Caspian's wife. So I think she should have at least had a first name.
jumping joker
07-14-2006, 12:59 AM
wow, alot about names in this thread, cool :D .
QueenSusanofNarnia
07-15-2006, 01:40 PM
Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe CS Lewis didn't give Caspian a last name? Meaning, Lewis just refered to him as "Caspian"? He never bothered to make one? It's not important, maybe.
Or he did have one, but Lewis just didn't put it in the books, but it's in his notes?
Also - this should go in the section for the books.
FREAK STAR
07-15-2006, 02:03 PM
It's Probly A Boring Name Like Bob
QueenSusanofNarnia
07-15-2006, 02:19 PM
no - i just don't think CSL found it important enough to put in the books. I don't think you ever really find out the Pevensie's last name in LWW (do you?)...
ABright5
07-15-2006, 02:22 PM
It's Probly A Boring Name Like Bob

His first name is Caspian.
Tsukiko
07-15-2006, 08:04 PM
Caspian's name is just that... Caspian. What we don't have is his last name!

i dont think he has a last name
Something Wicked!!!~.^
07-16-2006, 05:33 AM
His first name is Caspian, duh! :rolleyes:
Anyway, it never really says in the books what his last name is. .
-Daughter of Eve-
07-16-2006, 05:37 AM
Like everyone else(almost) here have said already,his first name is Caspian.