Are aliens fallen angels

[fantastyfreak]

I have recently read that some christians believe that aliens are fallen angels; What's everyone's take on that belief?

[Aravis Kenobi]

I believe there are no such thing as aliens. The Christians that apparently believe this must have lost touch with reality. :rolleyes: Most Christians believe that demons are fallen angels, those angels that decided to follow Satan into hell. This is just one person's opinion, though.

[SkandarLover892]

aravis, i LOVE your siggy picture!!!!!!!

[EveningStar]

Belief in Aliens is merely based upon one decision....

As vast and enormous as the universe is, it can't all be there just to serve the citizens of Earth can it? Why bother putting a pulsar in Cygnus? Why bother putting a planet around Rigel? Not to mention other entire galaxies outside our Milky Way?

There is no possible way to justify that such a huge amount of universe was put here solely for the benefit of earthers alone.

That purpose may be other lives in other worlds. And then again it may not.

Now consider carefully before hitting REPLY. I am not stupid nor am I naive. If you say that life on other worlds was not mentioned in the Bible, I'll merely tell you back that the entire "New World" consisting of three continents and millions of human souls was not mentioned in the Bible. So just because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does the Bible say that anything not listed in it can't exist. Which explains why plastic, microwaves and television aren't listed in the Bible.

I am a conservative Christian. Writing me off as a heretic or new ager is also not an option open to you.

So...think....examine...question...pray about it...and be open minded.

John B.

[Elf Of The Grey Havens]

I'm gonna say that I believe that there are aliens, but I'm not gonna say I think they're angels, fallen or no. I also don't think we'll come in contact with them, unless God wants us to.

[Siren]

I believe aliens are real. An alien could be something as small as a bit of bacteria to something bigger then an elephant. Doesn't mean its intelligent or not compared to humans. But our Sun is a star, and when I look into the nightsky, I see millions of stars, with telescopes, you can see billions. The odds are, some of those stars have planets right in that "life zone" for life. For a planet to retain life, they must be a certain amount of distance from the sun, have a moon to balance it, and water. Whether or not aliens have visited here, who's to say. There is some evidence that leads me to believe that some have, but other stories are just too cooky for my taste. But I never dwell on it. Its not a day to day thing if there is intelligent life other there. Frankly, I would be very happy to hear we aren't the only planet to have life and would love to learn about how life is on other planets.

Reminding you now, I don't believe in Creationisim, so please, don't try to contridict me, as I won't try to contridict you. :)

[EveningStar]

I see aliens in the same category as Narnians. People on separate worlds that one day will meet at the great field at the verge of Aslan's Country.

No I don't think they will be little green men that abduct folks to prod them in embarrasing places. And yet I also don't think they will be yet another color of human being to add to yellow, black, white and red.

And to them we will look as strange as they look to us. And we will see love in their eyes and wonder at salvation and eternal life. And we will love one another.

By and by...in God's good time.

[echoscot]

Belief in Aliens is merely based upon one decision....

As vast and enormous as the universe is, it can't all be there just to serve the citizens of Earth can it? Why bother putting a pulsar in Cygnus? Why bother putting a planet around Rigel? Not to mention other entire galaxies outside our Milky Way?

There is no possible way to justify that such a huge amount of universe was put here solely for the benefit of earthers alone.

That purpose may be other lives in other worlds. And then again it may not.

Now consider carefully before hitting REPLY. I am not stupid nor am I naive. If you say that life on other worlds was not mentioned in the Bible, I'll merely tell you back that the entire "New World" consisting of three continents and millions of human souls was not mentioned in the Bible. So just because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does the Bible say that anything not listed in it can't exist. Which explains why plastic, microwaves and television aren't listed in the Bible.

I am a conservative Christian. Writing me off as a heretic or new ager is also not an option open to you.

So...think....examine...question...pray about it...and be open minded.

John B.

You tantalize me with this post. I have never been sure how I felt about aliens. I had a roommate for several years, good friend, helped to refocus him back on Christain soil. But he was visiting with our Southern Baptist pastor and out of the blue quite candidly told the pastor that he had read somewhere that people speculated maybe Jesus was some kind of alien. I nearly crawled under the table in embarrasment. Later, I thought it was hysterical.

Anyways, that said (who knows you could be that guy for all I know) I read Genesis, and you are correct it does not specifically deny life on other planets, but what it does tell us in the Genesis story is that we are made uniquely in God's image. To some extent, to think that maybe He created other life inhabited worlds and told them similar things and went through the same motions for them, cheapens a bit what the promise of Creation in Genesis is all about. That is a personal take, not a deep Scriptural study by any means.

In spite of that, if we were to discover life on other planets, it still wouldn't shake my faith to its core by any means. My faith in who Christ is and what He has done for me is very solid, even if I have to share it with Vulcans and Romulans and Narnian. ;)

[inkspot]

I hope there's life on other planets, and that they're nice. :)

There's a series of Christian books which portray aliens as demons, I think the first one is called "Unholy Deception." It's kinda Christian science fiction. Sort of an X-Files deal. They think an alien body they find mummified is a seraphim, or one of those giants spoken about it Genesis.

[EveningStar]

This is respectfully submitted in the love of God and Christ and in total respect and love for my fellow forum members.

Other creations could no more cheapen ours than the existance of different races cheapen each other on Earth.

Rather, for me, it would cheapen God to imagine that he sat on his hands for trillions of years doing absolutely nothing except being adorable, then he made us and retired undefeated to sit on his hands and be adored by us for trillions of years to come.

Rather than us being proud of our stature and uniqueness, let's remember that we have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Pride goeth before a fall. Let us not boast or brag about anything except Christ Jesus who brings us the Father's grace and makes possible our rescue from the abject depths to which we plunged ourselves through disobedience.

Respectfully,

EveningStar

[pacifiquesea]

There's a series of Christian books which portray aliens as demons, I think the first one is called "Unholy Deception." It's kinda Christian science fiction. Sort of an X-Files deal. They think an alien body they find mummified is a seraphim, or one of those giants spoken about it Genesis.

Sounds like yet another horrible Christian fiction story. *shudder*


As for aliens being fallen angels, that's ridiculous...fallen angels are demons, aliens are, at least commonly, beings from another planet. I hope there are aliens. Space trilogy!

[Aravis Kenobi]

aravis, i LOVE your siggy picture!!!!!!!

Thanks..but isn't that a little out of place here? I just believe there are no such things as aliens. I believe that there are tons of galaxies out there more than we can count, but I don't think there are aliens. There's no changing my mind; I'm very stubborn on some points. :)

[Jood]

I don't think aliens even exsist.

[EveningStar]

I don't think the aliens that appear on the Discovery Channel exist. Or the ones in "Area 51"

I don't think there are little big-eyed people that probe you in places your mommy didn't name out loud when she washed you. (like your earlobe... :rolleyes: )

Like Narnia, such places would never be within reach of humankind without special dispensation from God.

Like Narnia, Aslan only tells each of us our own story, not the stories of others.

We will never settle this question here. Both sides have presented some interesting, thought-provoking ideas. That's really the most we can hope for.

[Tsukiko]

lol what a funnyquestion....no i dont think aliens are falling angels

i dont even think aliens exist

[echoscot]

While Evening Star and I did exchange some heated words this morning, I feel we should let everyone know we have made up, group hug and all that stuff.. :p

[Elf Of The Grey Havens]

I don't think the aliens that appear on the Discovery Channel exist. Or the ones in "Area 51"


True. But off topic: I really do think Area 51 exists. But it's probably not in New Mexico, and the only advanced technologies there are the ones governments are testing. I think of it as kinda of a labratory, a test facility.

[broken.]

While I believe that there is the possiblity for other lifeforms to exsist in other parts of the galaxy, I haven't seen or heard any evidence that convinces me that aliens do exsist and have made contact with our planet.

If there are other lifeforms in the galaxy that are in as much need for redemption as we are, why do you think Christ would choose our planet as the place to live his life and die?

[Aslan's Son]

True. But off topic: I really do think Area 51 exists. But it's probably not in New Mexico, and the only advanced technologies there are the ones governments are testing. I think of it as kinda of a labratory, a test facility.

"Area 51" is an actual place, a secretive military base under high surveillence (sp?) and such located in the Nevada desert. It could very well be a testing facility of some sort, but I really think they probably test new planes and other such technology there, like new weapons of war or something along those lines. *Shrugs.*

As for my stand on the issue, I don't believe in the possibilty of other lifeforms, and certainly not aliens. I think that if there was other lifeforms, the Bible would've mentioned it somewhere. And as for these "aliens," I think they're actually demons from Lucifer, the same with supposed "ghosts" in many cases.

[EveningStar]

Ged,

This is not meant to be nasty at all. I respectfully remind you that the entire North, South and Central American continents are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible, and people living there...who knows how many missionary ships may have been sent way back in the 1200's, the 1300's to send priests to this New World. Is it that God just didn't care if the Indians went to hell when they died? Or is it just possible that the Bible was not intended to list everything in existence? I trend toward the latter.

[Aslan's Son]

Ged,

This is not meant to be nasty at all. I respectfully remind you that the entire North, South and Central American continents are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible, and people living there...who knows how many missionary ships may have been sent way back in the 1200's, the 1300's to send priests to this New World. Is it that God just didn't care if the Indians went to hell when they died? Or is it just possible that the Bible was not intended to list everything in existence? I trend toward the latter.

Well, you've got to realise that what I said is what I've always been taught, and besides that, I do think myself as a close-minded person, whether it be my faith or otherwise (my family's the same way). So in all, I just don't believe in the existence of life on other planets, and there's nothing anyone could say that would change my mind. On another issue, I have to concur with Broken--if there's life on other planets, why did Christ choose Earth and not some other planet?

[EveningStar]

The climate, Ged. As hot as Galilee is in Summer, it's still better than the molten lead on Mercury or the Ice Slush of Neptune... :D

[Aslan's Son]

The climate, Ged. As hot as Galilee is in Summer, it's still better than the molten lead on Mercury or the Ice Slush of Neptune... http://narniafans.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Indeed, I agree.http://narniafans.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[echoscot]

The climate, Ged. As hot as Galilee is in Summer, it's still better than the molten lead on Mercury or the Ice Slush of Neptune... :D

I don't know, but I think a nice Neptunian Ice Slushee would be good in the middle of July... :D

[arwenelizabeth]

I don't have a strong opinion either way on whether aliens exist, but on the principles I definitely agree with EveningStar. I think he's got a very balanced and level-headed perspective on the topic; it makes no sense to me to say that you "don't believe" in aliens simply because they're not in the Bible, or for any other reason except solid physical evidence. (Which, incidentally, is very hard to get on this topic, since proving a negative - in this case, the non-existence of aliens - is nearly always impossible.)

Incidentally, in Christian tradition both angels and fallen angels (known as demons) are beings of pure spirit (who have the power to control physical matter, which is how they can 'appear' to people). Given that, it makes no sense from a theological perspective that aliens - who, as inhabitants of other parts of the physical universe, would be physical beings - could be fallen versions of purely spiritual beings. Any sort of teaching that says aliens are fallen angels would be completely out of line with orthodox Christianity, and indeed with all mainstream Christian teaching as I have encountered it.

[EveningStar]

This is an interesting thread, but it points out a curious difference in people's comfort zones dealing with open-ended topics.

Did you know that one faker at the opening of the 20th century claimed he had a powerful telescope that would show the people on Mars and what they were up to? He published extensive articles in the New York Times about the goings on there, such as their desperate attempts to forestall planet wide drought by irrigation.

BOY did it steam the folks at the Times when they found out it was a hoax!

John B.

[Siren]

As said before Area 51 IS real. It has been since renamed due to publicity, but it does exist. How would one like to explain the area outside Groom Lake with the high military presence and the fact that signs are posted everywhere that they WILL shoot you if you come too close to "government owned land". There is a secretive military base. There WAS an Area 51, its just under a new name. Its been reported that the stealth bomber came from there. As well as many other known and confidential weapons and planes.

[EveningStar]

Oh sure there is an Area 51. I just don't think they did an alien autopsy there.

There are other areas not as well known as 51 that manage to maintain their completely secret existence. One in particular...no, I'd better not even mention that one...

[echoscot]

Oh sure there is an Area 51. I just don't think they did an alien autopsy there.

There are other areas not as well known as 51 that manage to maintain their completely secret existence. One in particular...no, I'd better not even mention that one...


Wow, way to stir all the conspiracy theorists out there....LOL, That is good. "No, I'd better not even mention that one..."

[fantastyfreak]

Look at the interesting responce the author of a brilliant book called Arena raised about this topic when asked by a reader of her books
http://www.kmhancock.com/Karen%20Hancock's%20FAQs.htm
Scroll down to question 8 when you get to this link to see one christian's answer to this question
I do not necessarily 100% believe that aliens are fallen angels but it is very interesting to read about it.
Well, anyway it is very interesting to read the answers many of you have written about this topic

[echoscot]

That is a very interesting website. I read a lot of Christian fiction but have never heard of her stuff, I'll have to check it out.

[inkspot]

Incidentally, in Christian tradition both angels and fallen angels (known as demons) are beings of pure spirit (who have the power to control physical matter, which is how they can 'appear' to people). Given that, it makes no sense from a theological perspective that aliens - who, as inhabitants of other parts of the physical universe, would be physical beings - could be fallen versions of purely spiritual beings.
I don't think Christians who think "aliens are fallen angels" really believe that the fallen angels are beings from another planet -- they think demons get here and manifest in ways which deceive others into believing they are aliens from another planet.
you've got to realise that what I said is what I've always been taught, and besides that, I do think myself as a close-minded person, whether it be my faith or otherwise (my family's the same way). So in all, I just don't believe in the existence of life on other planets, and there's nothing anyone could say that would change my mind.
You say this as if you think being close-minded is a good thing, but I encourage you, now that you are growing up and will be making your own decisions instead of relying on parents, not to be too close-minded in issues which do not directly impact your faith in Christ. You will be able to enjoy and experience a greater variety of people and circumstances with an open mind than with a mind already made up. :)

[Per Sempre]

I beleive aliens are figments of the imagination. Used for entertainment. I do believe that there are other life forms,but I don't know about aliens being fallen angels.

[Yahtzee]

I believe there are no such thing as aliens. The Christians that apparently believe this must have lost touch with reality. :rolleyes: Most Christians believe that demons are fallen angels, those angels that decided to follow Satan into hell. This is just one person's opinion, though.
dude aliens are real i mean its just completely selfish to think that god would create all this space and only one race it may be in another glaxay in another universe(or sumthin like that) and there are other races