Will Narnia stay PG-13 (spoiler warning!)

[fantastyfreak]

I believe Narnia will not stay PG for the reasons of the amount of violence in some of the other books other than The Lion, the witch,and the wardrobe. By skipping out those parts just so the movie stays PG, would make me hate Disney forever. One scene in pacticular I am a little worried about is when Eustace in The Silver Chair pricks Aslan's paw causing it to bleed blood into the river containing the body of Prince Caspian thus bringing Caspian to live with Aslan on his isalnd. If Disney were to edit the blood out just to make the movie PG, I would not respect Walden Media and Disney no more! Well, what are anyone's thoughts on this? Will Narnia stay PG? What scenes have the potential to make future Narnia films PG-13?

[tottyfruitty]

im not sure cos i havent read all of the books
they might make it pg-13 who knows but it doesnt really matter cos i am 18 :p
but hopefully they find a way of still making it for young people cos the kids love narnia a lot

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Actually, I can envision lots of ways of handling the thorn scene without making it too gory but retaining the impact. Maybe don't show the actual puncture, but show Eustace's face as he did it, and then Aslan holding out His paw over the stream so the great red drop could fall from it. The meaning would be obvious.

[Pollywannabe]

personaly i don't care if they rate it PG-13 because by the time it's out i will be 13 although i'm already aloud to see them anyway...lol :D

[haldirblade]

who cares if there PG13.i can PG13 movies a lt gosh

[EveningStar]

Why don't they try to make an R-rated version to pull in some adults that otherwise might not come?

Peter - Vin Diesel
Edmund - Chuck Norris
Lucy - Halle Berry
Susan - Sharon Stone
Prince Caspian - Benjamin Bratt
Miraz - Clint Eastwood

"Sorry to break up this meeting!" Peter quipped as he launched himself into the cadre of Miraz loyalists with a loud battle cry, his gleaming blade tinged with the red blood of traitors as it worked its deadly magic of fatal death....

:D

[OnceUponaTime]

[QUOTE=EveningStar]Why don't they try to make an R-rated version to pull in some adults that otherwise might not come?

Peter - Vin Diesel
Edmund - Chuck Norris
Lucy - Halle Berry
Susan - Sharon Stone
Prince Caspian - Benjamin Bratt
Miraz - Clint Eastwood

Alright, EveningStar, that is just BAD. Anyway, I would hate Disney too if they cut out all the important parts, even though I don't want them to be pg-13. But the truth is, ratings don't really matter to most people. 5 year olds (in some cases) watch R. And what's so bad about the thorn thing? :confused:

[narnia+north]

I think that the only way Narnia can become a PG-13 movie is for it to have some major battle scenes. Take Harry Potter for an example. It is only rated PG-13 because it has some major violence that could give little kids nightmares.

[Elf Of The Grey Havens]

I think that the only way Narnia can become a PG-13 movie is for it to have some major battle scenes. Take Harry Potter for an example. It is only rated PG-13 because it has some major violence that could give little kids nightmares.
Also, Draco Malfoy is so ugly, he may give kids nightmares...

[narnia+north]

lol, u r right!

[caspianthetenth]

I think they could make eustace beat the crap out of aslan and then aslan crying onto caspian, or aslan could just cry anyway, but he seems a pretty macho lionif you ask me. I think the only reason it might become higher rated is in the fight seen outside the stable in the last battle, i mean the eagle pecking out peoples eyes yuk! off-topic but i thing soon they are gonna make xxx versions of the chronicals i just can see it happening, dirty people would make them like the ones who made Lord of the g-strings, it was in the fantasy section next to the return of the king when i was getting return of the king. I could just imagine some little kid picking it up and taking it to his mum and saying "Mum i want this one" and his mum just kicking the child and sueing blockbusters

[LifeMaiden]

I personally hope the movies will all stay PG. PG 13 seems a bit too strong, like the violence depicted in the LOTR movies was very intense.

[office]

well the last battle will probably be pg 13 but i mean come on theres lots of violence in it.and pg 13 isnt that bad. hp and the goblet of fire was pg 13.

[LifeMaiden]

Harry Potter's last movie had some images that scared the c**p out of me.


I haven't read the Last Battle yet, but unfortunately, the book flipped open to the last pages and so I know the ending. But there's a lot more I'm looking forward to in that book :D

[Ephinie]

I think the only reason it might become higher rated is in the fight seen outside the stable in the last battle, i mean the eagle pecking out peoples eyes yuk!Well LWW had a whole battle as well. They managed to pull it off without showing even a drop of blood. (Which, to me, is absolutely ridiculous. I can't reconcile a scene where you thrust a sword into an enemy, pull it out, and the sword is as glistening clean and polished as the day you got it.) So I'm sure they'll have a bloodless battle outside the stable as well if they do TLB.

[arwenelizabeth]

I definitely agree with IceMaiden - I covered my eyes during lots of parts of the last Harry Potter movie! Also during quite a few parts of the LOTR movies (Shelob, anyone?).

Many of you are saying that PG-13 ratings are "no big deal" but I don't think it's entirely true. I bet few - if any - of the people saying that are parents themselves. It doesn't make a huge difference for teenagers going to see the movies, and it's also true that many parents let their very young children watch PG-13 and even R-rated movies, but I think there are also many parents out there with pre-teen children to whom the difference between PG and PG-13 is an important one. From a purely practical perspective, I think the producers of the Narnia movies would have to be crazy to let any of the movies get a PG-13 rating if they could possibly avoid it, for the simple reason that it most likely would have effects on their revenue.

Personally, I really hope they keep them PG. This has nothing to do with my "being able" to see them, since I've been old enough to see R movies for many years now. I simply have a strong distate - both viscerally and aesthetically - for violence in movies. I really loved how tastefully they dealt with violence in the LWW movie. I didn't have to cover my eyes for a second of it! I would love to see the rest of the movies made along the same lines.

[Aslan'sFriend410]

I definitely agree with IceMaiden - I covered my eyes during lots of parts of the last Harry Potter movie! Also during quite a few parts of the LOTR movies (Shelob, anyone?).

Many of you are saying that PG-13 ratings are "no big deal" but I don't think it's entirely true. I bet few - if any - of the people saying that are parents themselves. It doesn't make a huge difference for teenagers going to see the movies, and it's also true that many parents let their very young children watch PG-13 and even R-rated movies, but I think there are also many parents out there with pre-teen children to whom the difference between PG and PG-13 is an important one. From a purely practical perspective, I think the producers of the Narnia movies would have to be crazy to let any of the movies get a PG-13 rating if they could possibly avoid it, for the simple reason that it most likely would have effects on their revenue.

Personally, I really hope they keep them PG. This has nothing to do with my "being able" to see them, since I've been old enough to see R movies for many years now. I simply have a strong distate - both viscerally and aesthetically - for violence in movies. I really loved how tastefully they dealt with violence in the LWW movie. I didn't have to cover my eyes for a second of it! I would love to see the rest of the movies made along the same lines.

I completely agree both from a personal standpoint and from that as an educator. I think there are plenty of ways to depict some scenes that might get iffy. It may require some careful planning but it can be done. I also think that the movies being PG 13 would hurt their exposure in other areas. At the school I teach at, LWW was a required read for all classes the first semester and we took the students to see the movie, as did a lot of other schools. Another teacher and I were the ones that planned the trip and we took a look at the Movie companion when trying to decide which age groups would go. The fire scene that was cut from the battle sequence made us innitially not include the elementary age group. Later on when we found out it was PG, we added them back in. Had it been PG 13 I don't know if the administration would have let us go, even if all the students were over the age of 13. Also, the movie was discussed and viewed by a lot of church congregations as well. I tend to think that this exposure might be at least somewhat curtailed if the movies recieve a harsher rating. Both of these audiences are key for the profitability of the films. I tink they can use some imaginative filmmaking to work around the tougher scenes.

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

I don't think theres going to be any change in the rating-- it's Disney, and the books were made for kids, so it will probably stay PG.
Frankly, if they can put that huge battle in LWW (which had some pretty intense scenes in it-- example, you actually see Peter's unicorn get shot --and the whole Aslan's sacrifice thing) and still rate it PG then I don't think they'll have a problem keeping it that way...

[~The Narnia Addict~]

I agree with Lucy

[QueenSusanofNarnia]

Well, HP4 was PG-13, but it (HP) is a series for children and adults. So is Narnia...
And if there is too much violence or anything, then there is...

ANd i don't htin k the paw-pricking is that bad...i mean, Aslan like...ate jadis' face in LWW..(or that's waht it looked like to me)

[Princess_Iliana]

Well, HP4 was PG-13, but it (HP) is a series for children and adults. So is Narnia...
And if there is too much violence or anything, then there is...

ANd i don't htin k the paw-pricking is that bad...i mean, Aslan like...ate jadis' face in LWW..(or that's waht it looked like to me)

I know, this has nothing to do with that you said, but I love you siggy of Will's Weird Moments, haha.

[SlpNarniaQueen]

I think that the Last Battle might be rated PG-13 because of the amount of violence in it. In the Last Battle there is a dryad that comes to warn King Trinian, but she dissappears screaming, then the whole bloody battle and the stable, and Tash! In the LWW people said the wolves and the Stone Table were too scary to be rated PG, but Tash is much more scaryer!

[Princess_Iliana]

I think that the Last Battle might be rated PG-13 because of the amount of violence in it. In the Last Battle there is a dryad that comes to warn King Trinian, but she dissappears screaming, then the whole bloody battle and the stable, and Tash! In the LWW people said the wolves and the Stone Table were too scary to be rated PG, but Tash is much more scaryer!

excellent point.
I mean, they rated Harry Petter 4 pg-13 for draggons!
It depends on what Disney and Walden Media choose to do about it.
PG is parental guided so parents can choose wheather they want their child to see the movie or not, unless they are very unresponsible.

[narnia+north]

Yes, i can see the Last Battle being rated PG-13 because Tirian and Jewel kill off too Colormens (spelling wrong) in the very beginning. Disney can not leave that part out because that is how the whole story was established.

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

Yes, i can see the Last Battle being rated PG-13 because Tirian and Jewel kill off too Colormens (spelling wrong) in the very beginning. Disney can not leave that part out because that is how the whole story was established.

they could get away with killing people in LWW and still rating it PG. i dont think theres any reason to rate it PG 13 since basically it is more battling.

[Saruman]

Maybe we should start rating books all the same, then. The Hobbit was written with a younger audience in mind, much like the Chronicles were. And mentioned in both are some pretty bone-chilling circumstances, things that might give little ones nightmares through imagery.

All the same, LWW was an excellent movie, and I do not think it should be rated PG-13. It's an adventure/family film, as should be the other upcoming Narnia movies. Unless Adamson starts ushering in extreme bloodshed and physical brutality, then I don't think people should worry about rating the films PG-13.

[-Princess of the Bow-]

If they make the last battle it will for sure be PG-13. I mean with the battle, tash, the calormans, and so on. it will be PG-13.

[Knight Aaron of Narnia]

I think that the Last Battle might be rated PG-13 because of the amount of violence in it. In the Last Battle there is a dryad that comes to warn King Trinian, but she dissappears screaming, then the whole bloody battle and the stable, and Tash! In the LWW people said the wolves and the Stone Table were too scary to be rated PG, but Tash is much more scaryer!
Yes,
I agree.
But they could make the Battle Scenes like on LWW,
No blood at all...And never showing actual killing.

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

Yes,
I agree.
But they could make the Battle Scenes like on LWW,
No blood at all...And never showing actual killing.

the thing is, they actually did show some killing in LWW, and that was still PG--or at least extreme animal violence (yet again i bring up the unicorn being shot)

[iamperfectlyme]

i think they should try to stick to the books as much as possible.

[Skandargrl4ever]

there are a lot of movies that are PG that have a lot of violence, but it everyone thought that harry potter was gonna do worse if it changed into PG-13 because it has a strong children following, but then again, it did better then the previous ones

[tottyfruitty]

well i have never seen pg movies which had like bad violence in it
:p

[~The Narnia Addict~]

Yeah I think they will turn to PG-13. Look what happened to Star Wars 1-3

[tottyfruitty]

star wars was well not that violent actually but the 3 was pretty violent though

[-Princess of the Bow-]

i thought 1 was violent but i have not seen the rest of them.

[tottyfruitty]

you should see the third
that one is the best
if narnia was pg 13 then kids under that age will just have to go with their parents

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

you should see the third
that one is the best
if narnia was pg 13 then kids under that age will just have to go with their parents

i agree about star wars--revenge of the sith was the best- but it was pretty dang violent for people under 13--then again my uncle took my cousin (who was 7 at the time) to see it and he thought it was great-he's a star wars obsessor-just like me and narnia/hp, lol..

anyways...

yea parents will just have to decide whether or not they want their kids to see it, if it is rated PG 13, but i dont see the need--i cant understand any of the narnia books being so violent that the movies would need to be rated PG 13

[~The Narnia Addict~]

I like all of them. 3 was really good in action. 1 was really good in plot. 2 was both of those. The originals (4, 5, and 6) was rocking too.

[-Princess of the Bow-]

you should see the third
that one is the best
if narnia was pg 13 then kids under that age will just have to go with their parents

Yeah, i should see it. My friend has it and she has been trying to get me to watch it. I'm only 12 but my mom will watch it with me.

[tottyfruitty]

yeah i know but i loved that movie and i could neever imagine cs lewis writing a violent story

[LifeMaiden]

I finished the Last Battle and have to say that book's got some intense sequences in it that could be very scary to kids, especially that ugly Tash thing, and the imagery of the Narnian world ending as well as some other things in there. But I guess we will just have to wait and see ( LOOONNNNNG WAIT for Last Battle movie) if it's going to be just PG, or PG 13.

[Peter's_Unicorn]

Although when Jewel kills a Calormene the first time his horn goes through the man, they could relatively easily modify it so he does it in a dark shadow and cleans his horn immediately. The sea serpent is pretty scary, too, and I don't think there's any way to tone that down, and they better not take it out!

[LifeMaiden]

They managed not to shed one drop of blood in the LWW, so maybe they might do the same for the Last Battle.

[Tirian of Narnia]

I hope not, That would kind of ruin it.

[LifeMaiden]

I hope not, That would kind of ruin it.


if it didn't ruin Narnia LWW why would having no blood ruin the Last Battle movie?

[narniafreak216]

i like the fact that there was no blood in LWW because it left it up to the actors to show us how shaken up they were by the battle and not make us feel queezy over it. if one of the movie ends up being pg-13 ill still see it and probably wont even notice but i hope they do keep blood out of it.

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

They managed not to shed one drop of blood in the LWW, so maybe they might do the same for the Last Battle.

thats true. although it was a bit unrealistic every time Peter pulled his sword outta some minotaur and his blade was still sparkling clean, it didn't completely ruin it.

I think if they can pull off making LWW PG (because honestly, with the battle and the Stone Table scenes, I think it was bordering on Pg13 anyways...I know many parents are nervous about letting their children see it, either because their kids are sensitive or because of the battle scenes) they shouldn't really have a problem with any of the others. The Last Battle is mostly just fighting and killing people, and Tash appearing, and people being thrown out of the stable dead, but still, I think it could be PG, if the filmmakers did it right--not that I want to see any of the story taken out just to make it PG.

who knows..but I think the only film, if any, that might be rated PG13 is the Last Battle. all the rest are pretty clean.

[Wings of Vanity]

thats true. although it was a bit unrealistic every time Peter pulled his sword outta some minotaur and his blade was still sparkling clean, it didn't completely ruin it.

I think if they can pull off making LWW PG (because honestly, with the battle and the Stone Table scenes, I think it was bordering on Pg13 anyways...I know many parents are nervous about letting their children see it, either because their kids are sensitive or because of the battle scenes) they shouldn't really have a problem with any of the others. The Last Battle is mostly just fighting and killing people, and Tash appearing, and people being thrown out of the stable dead, but still, I think it could be PG, if the filmmakers did it right--not that I want to see any of the story taken out just to make it PG.

who knows..but I think the only film, if any, that might be rated PG13 is the Last Battle. all the rest are pretty clean.
Very thorough analysis...I think they may have to up for PG to PG-13 for the reason that there is more people violence (as in Peter killing King Miraz). If you think about it- LOTR (similar topic) was PG-13, of course there is much more violence, but same thing- some battle sequences, etc.

[LifeMaiden]

Very thorough analysis...I think they may have to up for PG to PG-13 for the reason that there is more people violence (as in Peter killing King Miraz). If you think about it- LOTR (similar topic) was PG-13, of course there is much more violence, but same thing- some battle sequences, etc.


For me, even though there was no blood shed in the first movie, because I was so wrapped up in the action, I didn't even notice there was NO blood LOL. I guess when a movie is as fantastic as LWW, seeing blood is so insignificant since you're captivated by everything else in the scenes. I must be blind because until another member pointed out that the movie was bloodless, I wouldn't have paid any attention to it.


We shall wait a LONG LONG time to see The Last Battle...seeing as :rolleyes: how Prince Caspian is coming out in .....2008!!!!!

[Aslan's Beloved Daughter]

Waiting for Prince Caspian seems like an eternity!! I cannot possibly wait for two more years! I almost died waiting for LWW!
Anyways, I don't know how they will rate PC. It seems a lot more 'dirtier' than LWW...

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

I think PC will still be PG :)
It's just a lot more fighting, basically

[Gentle Voice]

yea I thank so to if there was no fighting in the movie probly it be rating G

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

yea I thank so to if there was no fighting in the movie probly it be rating G

well there's definitely going to be fighting. i mean, thats what PC is about, is the battle to free narnia from miraz's grasp. if they made PC without a battle, it just would be wrong, and incredibly stupid of the producers :D

[Aravis Kenobi]

I think maybe The Last Battle and The Silver Chair have the possibilities of becoming PG-13, simply because of the violence content in them. In the Silver Chair, for instance, the scene where the Witch (or Lady of the Green Kirtle) turns into the serpent could pose a PG-13 rating because Rilian and the others have to cut her head off in order to kill her. The Last Battle may just be like the first film, has violence, but no blood, or like Return of the King, where there was both blood and violence.

[LifeMaiden]

I'm always dismayed at the number of very YOUNG children that parents take with them to see movies of PG 13 rating. LOTR trilogy could be VERY violent, especially in the ROTK battle sequences. I don't understand why parents would bring a three or four year old to see such movies.


Do you guys think that a PG 13 rating would turn away some folks from seeing a particular Narnia movie?

[Aravis Kenobi]

I'm always dismayed at the number of very YOUNG children that parents take with them to see movies of PG 13 rating. LOTR trilogy could be VERY violent, especially in the ROTK battle sequences. I don't understand why parents would bring a three or four year old to see such movies.


Do you guys think that a PG 13 rating would turn away some folks from seeing a particular Narnia movie?

It wouldn't for me. I agree with the fact that a lot of parents take their kids to films that are way over their head, and aren't very appropriate. It depends on the parents, but I know that my parents wouldn't allow me to see PG-13 stuff until I was at least 12. I saw LOTR long before I expected to, but it didn't scare me, though I'm really afraid of spiders, especially gigantic ones. :p The films didn't scare me though, and neither did the first Pirates movie, though my mom didn't want me to see it, but my sister bypassed her on that. Anyway, I think some parents are very hesitant about taking their kids to a PG-13 film, especially depending on the violence content. Even George Lucas commented on his film, Episode III: "I wouldn't take a five or six year old to this, it's very intense." (quote from the PluggedIn online review of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, interview and quote can be read here (http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0002158.cfm)

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

I'm always dismayed at the number of very YOUNG children that parents take with them to see movies of PG 13 rating. LOTR trilogy could be VERY violent, especially in the ROTK battle sequences. I don't understand why parents would bring a three or four year old to see such movies.


Do you guys think that a PG 13 rating would turn away some folks from seeing a particular Narnia movie?


I know what you mean. I don't get why parents would want to let their child see a movie that's been rated PG 13 for obvious reasons...but...

it depends. I mean, Narnia is a Disney movie, meaning its meant for family. I have very young cousins (3 of them, the oldest just turned 8, the youngest just turned 5) and my Aunt was nervous about letting them see LWW, even, because I told her that the battle scenes and the stone table sacrifice scene could be frightening to them. I think before parents let them see a Narnia movie thats rated PG 13, they should know why it was rated that, and sometimes should even go see it themselves and judge if their kids could handle it.

Some parents will probably just let their kids see it anyways, because, come on, its Narnia, its Disney. I was shocked at the amount of 5 and 6 year olds I saw when I went to see PotC2 on opening night--that movie was considerably darker than the first one.

But some parents might be a little reluctant about letting their kids see it if its rated PG 13. You never know, it may hurt the number of people who come to see it.

[tottyfruitty]

I'm always dismayed at the number of very YOUNG children that parents take with them to see movies of PG 13 rating. LOTR trilogy could be VERY violent, especially in the ROTK battle sequences. I don't understand why parents would bring a three or four year old to see such movies.


Do you guys think that a PG 13 rating would turn away some folks from seeing a particular Narnia movie?

i know what you mean
i hope not because that would be so sad
i really doubt that there will be much violence in PC because C.S lewis does nto seem like tha kind of person who condones violence but yeah some parents may feel it is not suitable for their children adn that is understandable.

[Something Wicked!!!~.^]

Uh, why wouldn't it be? :confused:
I mean, remain PG-13, why wouldn't it? 'cause if I remember it right it wasn't the type of situation where you scream :eek: 'Mothers hide your childrens eyes; their going to poke Aslan with a thorn!' :rolleyes:
Seriously people, why would it go from PG to horrifyingly bloody R just because of the mild violence from the books?

Oh, and has anyone ever read: A Midsummer Night's Dream?

[Bee-kah]

they have to make PC PG!!!! then my cousins cannot see it!!! but they cannot edit ouit the fighting!!!!!!!! or the part with aslan's blood!! that would make us all very sad!!! :(

[PeterC]

If they cut down the violence, it may make some of the scenes look unrealistic.

[LifeMaiden]

If they cut down the violence, it may make some of the scenes look unrealistic.


They don't have to cut down on the violence, but they didn't shed any blood in the LWW and that didn't take away from the scenes looking unrealistic or any less exciting.

[Peter's_Unicorn]

Yeah, but I watched a movie yesterday that had punches and three people that bled, one got cut on the arm with a sword, the other two from knocks to the face, and it was still PG

[Per Sempre]

It will probably stay PG-13. Ya know? Because of Jadis,Aslan's killing,and all. I'm still guessing it will stay the same.

[Lady Larien]

what about when Peter calls Reepicheep the A word? lol i cracked up laughing when i read that cause i wanted to imagine Peter saying it and it just sounded funny but yeah making it PG13 would draw in more of the older aged people like 16 and stuff cause well if it is PG they probably think it is for kids like LOTR AWESOME MOVIES PG13 i saw the first one like i don't know it was when it first started coming on the movie channels so whenever that was but i was pretty young cause i am just turning 12 so i was way younger then 13 i think i was about 7 or 8 but now hoenstly i watch more PG13 movies then PG cause well most PG movies aren't that good anymore Narnia is and a few others are but i would pick LOTR over most movies not Robin Hood (yes the VERY old one the Disney one isn't that the only one?) but that is besides the point lol

[Peter's_Unicorn]

what about when Peter calls Reepicheep the A word?
Yeah, but I think that's used as a synonym for 'donkey'. I really do. I know it is when Puzzle is refered to as one.

[DjStickymuffinz]

it was never PG-13
it was PG
duh!

[Lady Narnia]

*coughs*Last Battle*coughs* When they do the whole "Throw them in the stable" thing.

[tottyfruitty]

is that violent?

[Lila]

If they make some Narnia films PG-13, I won't hate Disney forever. I mean come on! Narnia was intended for children, wasn't it? I'd actually prefer to have Disney keep them at PG.

[tottyfruitty]

i agrees with yous!

[Elendil]

Yeah, but I think that's used as a synonym for 'donkey'. I really do. I know it is when Puzzle is refered to as one.
CS Lewis would NOT have used a 'word'.

[stronger_WM]

I think that PG-13 would be possible. There are more mature scenes, but as of now, they are only planning on doing LWW, PC, and VDT. I'm pretty sure they'll be able to make those PG-13.

[Son of Adam]

There is no reason to assume that any of the movies will have its ratings changed from PG-13 to an R. The showing of blood is no reason to increase it at all. Check some of the films that are rated PG-13. Most Scifi films such as Star Wars, Star Trek, and others haven't received an R rating and there was plenty of violence and blood in them. There are even some films where there is brief nudity that has been given PG-13 ratings. So I don't see anything changing that would increase the rating put on it, not even Aslan's paw bleeding.

[Elendil]

Wait...Narnia is PG, right? Now you're saying it could go up to R? (In Australia it goes, G, PG, M, MA 15+, R 18+...can someone explain the American ratings please?)

[shortangel]

i do hope prince caspian stays PG or PG -13 i wouldn't mind seeing it because there is theology in it i know there is alot of violence because of the war scenes but i think it's a battle between good and evil, i just hope the last battle is not rated R but if it was i'd see it anyway because the last battle is about the book of Rev and the theology is there you just have to dig for it :)

[Son of Adam]

As I said, I don't think any of the Narnia films will ever have an R rating. PG-13 is as high as I believe it will ever go. Like I said...take a look at the Star Wars films. These were far more bloody with light sabre decapitations of arms, heads, etc., disembowelment of creatures, etc., than Narnia could possibly have in any of the films. There are just too many films rated PG-13 that have a lot more violence, war, blood, etc. out there than the Narnia films could possibly have. Plus Disney would lose too many customers going to see the movies if it received an R rating. Too many Christians would not go themselves or allow their children to see any R rated film regardless of its theme having strong Christian morals and allegories.

[Into the Wardrobe]

Wait...Narnia is PG, right? Now you're saying it could go up to R? (In Australia it goes, G, PG, M, MA 15+, R 18+...can someone explain the American ratings please?)

A G rating in America is family and child friendly. PG stands for Parental Guidance, PG-13 is basically where they think you should be 13 to watch it, R is an even stronger warning and youngsters need ID or a guardian/parent to get in, and then there's the NC-17 where you have to be at least 17 to get in.

Hope that help some.

I had a thread like this in the Prince Caspian section and there was a link that Susan P showed where she'd asked the question on a Narnia site and they said something along the lines of trying to stay PG or PG-13 if I remember. It's doable. They'll just have to be careful with Bacchus and his wild girls as well as the battles. They did well with the LWW battle, so I'm not too worried. NM is right, there have been other movies that have been much more gory with a lesser rating.

[tottyfruitty]

CS Lewis would NOT have used a 'word'.
it is used for donkey until people started to useit as a slang word

[office]

[QUOTE=Lady Larien;487521]what about when Peter calls Reepicheep the A word?

That word is in many PG films even if they aren`t talking about the donkey.

[stronger_WM]

I think it's fine to have one curse word like the "a" word, like everyone's saying. They'll probably change it though, just to be safe. Like, they didn't have any blood in the first Narnia, so they won't have any in PC.

[micoorda]

pg-13?,that's very impossible beacuse Narnia is in the Children's Literature Section.:)

[Warrior-Poet51088]

"Ass" is a word Lewis uses in a lot of his writings, and he uses it in the sense of a "foolish person;" an ass--someone who is making a fool of themselves or simply lacks common sense.

[annapopplewell]

He says that a whole bunch in The Last Battle, especially abut puzzle!

[tottyfruitty]

haha thats kinda funny!
maybe they will not put that word in then

[Rosalind]

hmm... I think they can probably still pull it off without a PG-13 rating. Personally, I hope they do because it would be sad for adults to complain even more about how "gory" and "violent" Narnia is. I've heard someone say it's as bad as LOTR! WHAT?!

[tottyfruitty]

what!lotr wasnt even that bad but narnia is nothing like it!be fair

[LadyofLanternWaste]

I believe Narnia will not stay PG for the reasons of the amount of violence in some of the other books other than The Lion, the witch,and the wardrobe. By skipping out those parts just so the movie stays PG, would make me hate Disney forever. One scene in pacticular I am a little worried about is when Eustace in The Silver Chair pricks Aslan's paw causing it to bleed blood into the river containing the body of Prince Caspian thus bringing Caspian to live with Aslan on his isalnd. If Disney were to edit the blood out just to make the movie PG, I would not respect Walden Media and Disney no more! Well, what are anyone's thoughts on this? Will Narnia stay PG? What scenes have the potential to make future Narnia films PG-13?

The part with Aslan's paw is nothing to worry about, there are other ways
to do it without showing a ton of blood coming from him. But I agree with
you about Disney skipping certain parts in the books or downplaying things
just so it can stay PG. It would make me upset with Disney/Walden too.
Another scene that I think has the potential to make it PG-13 is the scene
from PC where Peter is fighting Sopespian. I mean he cuts his legs out
from under him and then chops his head off!!!:eek: All in the same stroke!
Now thats violent! Don't get me wrong I want it to be in the movie, I think
it will show people what a great fighter Peter has become. I just wonder
how they're going to do it.

[supermeulen]

I believe they might have pg13s, most probably the Last Battle. But most of the books don't have much more violence and blood as the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe has.

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

i think it will...i mean each country has its own rating and this isn't like harry potter were the kids grow up, its like almost different kids everytime, nd some pg13 movies are terrible, so i don't think there's a prblem with narnia...

[Son of Adam]

I doubt that showing blood coming from Aslan's paw would in any wise cause it to be given an R rating. There are tons of films out there in which a generous amount of violence and blood still only gave the film a PG-13 rating. A lot of violence and blood were in the Star Wars films, yet none of them ever rated an R rating. So I doubt that Aslan's paw bleeding would either.

[micoorda]

well i suppose its going to be pg-13 beacuse i've read the book that creatures like fauns,dryads,centaurs and animals were hunt down by telmarines.for me, the fight between peter and king miraz is more violent and worse than the last time he fought the white witch

[Mrs.Moseley~QueenofNarnia]

Walden Media takes great pride in the last Narnia movie they made(i have met the man who owns Walden Media at a film screening in Salt Lake City{UT}) and he talked to the audiance about it fo a few min. i think that they will make it PG-13 at the highest, but no higher than that. they would never edit out most of the movie to make it still PG. they know it would bring most Narniafans to hate them forever. it would also cause a drastic loss of money on their part for ticket sales. i don't think that they have the nerve to do it.

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

I believe Narnia will not stay PG for the reasons of the amount of violence in some of the other books other than The Lion, the witch,and the wardrobe. By skipping out those parts just so the movie stays PG, would make me hate Disney forever. One scene in pacticular I am a little worried about is when Eustace in The Silver Chair pricks Aslan's paw causing it to bleed blood into the river containing the body of Prince Caspian thus bringing Caspian to live with Aslan on his isalnd. If Disney were to edit the blood out just to make the movie PG, I would not respect Walden Media and Disney no more! Well, what are anyone's thoughts on this? Will Narnia stay PG? What scenes have the potential to make future Narnia films PG-13?

Here is my synopsis for the Narnia films:
LLW: PG (of course)
PC: PG (possibly PG-13)
VDT: G
TSC: PG
HHB: PG
TMN: G
TLB: PG-13

[Georgie the Valient]

I think that the only way Narnia can become a PG-13 movie is for it to have some major battle scenes. Take Harry Potter for an example. It is only rated PG-13 because it has some major violence that could give little kids nightmares.

Is it PG 13???:confused: I'm nowhere near that age and i see it

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

The 4th Harry Potter is PG-13, and the 5th will be also. I am sure the Last Battle will be rated PG-13, and possible Prince Caspian, but those are it. All the others will be either G (TMN, VDT) and PG (LLW, PC [possilby], TSC, THHB].

[Narniabeaver2005]

I hope that The Last Battle will be PG-13.

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Nice signature. I hope so, too. If it isn't then that means it'll be no good. :mad: I'll also be angry at Andrew Adamson (if he directs that movie) if he doesn't make it as heroic as possible. Meaning, the Last Battle was gorey in the book. Why not a gorey movie?

[Jack of Blades]

I doubt that showing blood coming from Aslan's paw would in any wise cause it to be given an R rating. There are tons of films out there in which a generous amount of violence and blood still only gave the film a PG-13 rating. A lot of violence and blood were in the Star Wars films, yet none of them ever rated an R rating. So I doubt that Aslan's paw bleeding would either.

I think it wouldn't matter if they showed the actual prick, at all.

Jurrasic Park was rated PG-13. And in one scene the whole river was bloody. I doubt that Aslan's guts will be spread across any rivers ;)

Anyway. As for upcoming movies.
I hope that Andrew Adamson puts a little more emphasis on the battles, I understand that the battles in LOTR were intense, but they were more real. Also a little more length.
I didn't really see how Peter could've taken on the "Queen" of Narnia, after how long she ruled, with his tid-bit of training.
I would like it better if the battles were more real. I relize that the book was made for children. But I didn't really see in LWW that Narnia was in peril.

One of the key mistakes in LWW is that they made it feel like a kid's movie.

But look at the succesfulness of Lord of the Rings. Yes the battles were intense, and that atractted men and boys alike, and girls for some stupid reasons -_- and yeah...
Anyway, point is.

Prince Caspian I feel needs to have more of an adult spin, they need to show in this one about the animal's tribulation. I'm going to be dissapointed if it turns out how I think it will.

They needed more emotion and reality. Hopefully they have learned from their mistakes. Knowing Andrew Adamson, I'm sure he'll make it an amazing movie, as Shrek 2 is more of my favorite in the trilogy ;) (Yes there are 3 Shreks, the third is being made, too bad its not directed by Andrew, well mabye it is O.o) Mabye Prince Caspian will be more of my favorite, I just can't wait until last three :) My favorite books.

[NarniaPrincess1024]

Honestly I agree that If they take some of the scenes out I will not be pleased just so little youngstres can watch it I mean if you understand whats going on thats great! But honestly They shouldn't make all of the Narnia Fans angry just so youngsters can watch The Actors sword fight and a see a fuzzy lion if you knwo what i mean?

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Pretty much, The Last Battle is the only one that will absolutely be rated PG-13. Prince Caspian is the only other one that has a chance, though a very small chance.

[Danny Darnia]

Pretty much, The Last Battle is the only one that will absolutely be rated PG-13. Prince Caspian is the only other one that has a chance, though a very small chance.

Agree....The Silver Chair also probably going to be PG-13...coz there's a lots of magic and curse

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Nah...PG, because there's hardly any violance, and maybe it'll be rated for drug usage and brief language.

[Danny Darnia]

Nah...PG, because there's hardly any violance, and maybe it'll be rated for drug usage and brief language.

But ...if those won't be a PG rated, it will gave a bad perceptions to children. Magic and curse??
Or probably...I put a wrong perception about PG-13 rate??

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Perhaps. They really only rate things PG-13 for the violance and gore and frightening images. Same reason for the Star Wars films.
HHB might be rated PG-13 for the battle in Anvard. TLB will be rated for the coninuous battles and frightening moments and scenes (Tash, etc.). PC might be rated for the few moments of scary images and battle scenes. I know that there's nothing in TMN and VDT that will make them above G, so they'll be G for sure.

[Danny Darnia]

Perhaps. They really only rate things PG-13 for the violance and gore and frightening images. Same reason for the Star Wars films.
HHB might be rated PG-13 for the battle in Anvard. TLB will be rated for the coninuous battles and frightening moments and scenes (Tash, etc.). PC might be rated for the few moments of scary images and battle scenes. I know that there's nothing in TMN and VDT that will make them above G, so they'll be G for sure.


Oh...I get it! So magic, wizard and stuffs like that won't be count as PG-13?:eek:

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Did that change Harry Potter?

[Danny Darnia]

Did that change Harry Potter?

You're right :D

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

I know that TLB will be rated PG-13, but I can't wait to see it. I want to see what the director's version of Narnia's heaven will be. I know it's going to be a sad movie...but so was LOTR, and that was extremely close to R.

[Danny Darnia]

I'm still curious why something like magic, wizard, and such things like that won't be count as PG-13 ?

I've heard that there were so many parents who avoid their children to watched or read a books that contain of those things

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

I avoid Harry Potter because of its witchcraft. And, to answer your original question, the film raters don't count magic etc. because the world is begining to think of those things as 'normal'. The really intense magic they count as 'brief frightening image', but that's it.

[Danny Darnia]

I avoid Harry Potter because of its witchcraft. And, to answer your original question, the film raters don't count magic etc. because the world is begining to think of those things as 'normal'. The really intense magic they count as 'brief frightening image', but that's it.

:eek: Alrite...I get it....

Just feel weird that there's a opinion that magic is a "normal" thing :rolleyes:

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

In a sense it is. Where else did computers, electricity, or even living things come from? (to non-Christians, every single thing in this universe came from a result of evolution, their version of 'magic'.)

[Danny Darnia]

I called it....technology! It wasn't a magic I think...

But the beginning of the universe.......there's always be a scietic expalnation, does it?:confused:

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Yeah. They're taking the fun out of everything.
Here's my synopsis for the Narnia films...again.
LLW: PG (of course)
PC: PG (a possibility of PG-13)
VDT: G
TSC: PG
TMN: G
HHB: PG
TLB: PG-13

[Danny Darnia]

Yeah. They're taking the fun out of everything.
Here's my synopsis for the Narnia films...again.
LLW: PG (of course)
PC: PG (a possibility of PG-13)
VDT: G
TSC: PG
TMN: G
HHB: PG
TLB: PG-13


I'm no too get in that point actually after my perception was change, but I hope the LB gonna be PG-13.....there's too many things that kids should be avoid too see. But it'll depends on the director, how smooth he gonna imagine it and make it into script

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Frankly, if it's not PG-13, then there'll be no chance of it getting an Oscar nomination for Best Picture, because the Best Picture award for the past thirty years has been nominated over PG. The last Best Picture award that was PG or lower was The Sound of Music, rated G. That was in 1965.

[Danny Darnia]

Oooouch...not because of that......

I hope nobody make a movie JUST FOR AN OSCAR AWARD, so they forget the main things of making a movie :ENTERTAINING and EDUCATING!!:mad:

But I also hoping that LB could be nominated for the visual effect :rolleyes:

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

I was disappointed with the Oscars for LLW: nominated 3 and won 1. Nominated for Visual Effects (went to King Kong), Sound Mixing (also went to King Kong), and Make-up (which it won, but should've gone to Star Wars III).
Really, Narnia should've won Visual effects and Sound mixing. Let Star Wars have Make-up, it's only nomination.

[Danny Darnia]

I was disappointed with the Oscars for LLW: nominated 3 and won 1. Nominated for Visual Effects (went to King Kong), Sound Mixing (also went to King Kong), and Make-up (which it won, but should've gone to Star Wars III).
Really, Narnia should've won Visual effects and Sound mixing. Let Star Wars have Make-up, it's only nomination.

:D I remember when I grumbled for a whole day coz of that result. But it's hard to beat King Kong, the special effects are so amazing.

I hope eragon would be nominated on next oscar for special effect. saphira is sooooooooo amazing.

Can't wait to see PC!

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Uh...I can't wait for PC or Eldest, either. Cheifly because I wanna see PC so badly and I acted in Eldest. But...I haven't exactly seen Eragon yet.

*runs away to avoid mob of protesters shouting WHAT!!!*

[Danny Darnia]

Uh...I can't wait for PC or Eldest, either. Cheifly because I wanna see PC so badly and I acted in Eldest. But...I haven't exactly seen Eragon yet.

*runs away to avoid mob of protesters shouting WHAT!!!*

yeah......WHAT?????????? YOU SO DARN LUCKY!!!!!! :D

haven't seen Eragon, but gonna be played in Eldest????? :eek:

Why you're not trying to have an audition for Narnia?

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

yeah......WHAT?????????? YOU SO DARN LUCKY!!!!!! :D

haven't seen Eragon, but gonna be played in Eldest????? :eek:

Why you're not trying to have an audition for Narnia?

Gee, thanks.

I pre-ordered the Eragon 2-disc DVD off of Amazon.com. I knew Eragon came out, but I didn't actually read the book until it left theaters. By then I was dying to see it, but it was too late. So I auditioned for Eldest and got a part.

I did, but I lost to Ben Barnes. So I'm gonna try out for VDT.

[Danny Darnia]

:D yeah it goes to Ben...

I hope you gonna get in VDT....those is one of my fave books from Narnia's series. But I won't forgive you if you play not well (impossible...huh?) :D


yayyyyyy...so jealous with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.................:p

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Though there's not many people my age in VDT, except maybe Eustace. (I'm 14.)
How good is Eragon? Because it didn't get any Oscar nominations, so I'm a little nervous about seeing it.

[Danny Darnia]

Though there's not many people my age in VDT, except maybe Eustace. (I'm 14.)
How good is Eragon? Because it didn't get any Oscar nominations, so I'm a little nervous about seeing it.
If you compared the movie with the books, it was little bit disappointed (edit:a biiggggggggggggg disappointed) coz they erased most of important scene from the book.

But it could saved by Saphira's performance ,coz the CG is sooooooo amazing!!

Did you had read the book?

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Both of them! Which scenes did they take out?

[Lila]

Wow... you should see Eragon. It is really really good. (Well I think so anyway...)

How big of a part did you get in Eldest?

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Not very, but I got a few lines.
I think we're swaying off subject here.

[~Grateful * Surrender~]

I think that gore is not necessary but some violence and some blood is. That is how Jack wrote it and I hope they stick to his idea.

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Thank you, I'd been practicing for that line...:D

[Tsukiko]

I think it's fine to have one curse word like the "a" word, like everyone's saying. They'll probably change it though, just to be safe. Like, they didn't have any blood in the first Narnia, so they won't have any in PC.

lol
um
they use the "a" word back then before ppl started using it for slang. ;)


He says that a whole bunch in The Last Battle, especially abut puzzle!
Tirian calls Puzzle that alot!! heheh...more the reason to like [me love] him. :D

[Daughter-of-Aslan]

I'm not sure what Disney will do. They have a tendancy to look for more ticket sales than try to stay true to the books or script or whatever. However, if Douglas Gresham is still involved with it, I imagine he'll have something to say...whether they'll listen to him or not has yet to be seen. Let's just pray that God protects what Lewis wrote!

[Son of Adam]

No doubt the films will remain PG rated I am sure. Another thing, although Disney has lent its label to the film and is involved in it to a degree, it is Walden Media that is behind the motion pictures of Narnia. In my two talks with Walden Media I discovered that they are the ones who have all rights to Narnia period as far as the film production is concerned. They basically own Narnia you might say which is why the convention committee is talking directly with Walden rather than Disney.

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

No doubt the films will remain PG rated I am sure. Another thing, although Disney has lent its label to the film and is involved in it to a degree, it is Walden Media that is behind the motion pictures of Narnia. In my two talks with Walden Media I discovered that they are the ones who have all rights to Narnia period as far as the film production is concerned. They basically own Narnia you might say which is why the convention committee is talking directly with Walden rather than Disney.

If it WERE to go to PG-13 it'd be for the battles, not for sex,language or anything nasty. The Pirates of the Caribbean:Dead Man's Chest was PG-13 so don't rule Narnia out.

[~Grateful * Surrender~]

well all of the LOTR ones were PG-13 and they had no language or that in it. Narnia is just another kind of movie but very much like that

[Narniamoondust]

Prince Caspian - Benjamin Bratt
D

I think he could stay ben barnes by the time they might do that. He's almost thirty and if anyone EVER HAS the sick idea to make narnia R rated then he'll look old enough.(with the beard anyway *bleh*)