Which White Witch do you like better? [Archive] - The Dancing Lawn

Sharlene

04-28-2006, 11:11 AM

I was just wondering what actor you think played the White Witch the best, Tilda Swinton, or the other lady in the BBC version.
Which White Witch do you like better and is more like the one that CS Lewis wrote about?
My mom and oldest brother say the BBC Witch because she was more dramatic, she's an amazing actoress, she was eviler, and because she was louder.
But I think the WW played by Tilda Swinton is better, because we can relate to her better, she's not so evil and not so evil looking. its kinda like how evil can sometimes look good and be disguised.
What do you all think? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Jood

04-28-2006, 11:17 AM

My family hasn't watched BBC in like....INFINITY! kidding...we watched a long time ago. Dad really thinks Tilda did a SUPERB job in WaldenMedia Narnia. He really like the scene where Edmund says:
"Do you think I could have..just mabye...a little bite?"
"NO!....don't want it to spoil your appetite."
Dad says she did perfect, I agree.
One thing that bothered me, I always pictured the WHITE Witch to be WHITE. Like paper white. So I think WMN coud've done better in that area.

Isabel Moseley

04-28-2006, 01:56 PM

were do you find the other version?

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

04-28-2006, 03:57 PM

well I have never seen the BBC vesion so I don't have much say on her but I say Tilda did a awsome job as the witch

Queen Lucy the Valiant

04-28-2006, 06:14 PM

I just watched the BBC version, and i like Tilda Swinton as the White Witch more, because you don't think she's evil at first because of her apperance, but in the BBC version you could kinda tell, because of how she was towards Edmund! And the actress used in the BBC version, also played the Green Witch in The Silver Chair, and i saw that before the BBC LWW
GO TILDA!!

Tsukiko

04-28-2006, 06:22 PM

I havent seen BBc verison..but maybe Tilda...but i thought maybe the BBc version looked how i thought jadis really looked like with the dark hair and tilda had blonde.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

04-28-2006, 06:47 PM

you may think this werid but I always imagen the witch as how Tilda looked in the LWW movie when I read the story Tilda had that Quote"looks can be deseving"going on in the LWW movie :D

LifeMaiden

05-02-2006, 03:13 AM

Strangely I envisioned the White Witch as being dark-haired, but I thought the overall fair-skinned, blonde-haired look that Tilda Swinton bought to the role was the best. She has a regal presence being almost six feet tall!!

Lachesis

05-02-2006, 06:00 AM

Probably BBC WW. Actually I don't think either of them is perfect - Barbara Kellerman (BBC witch) overacts a lot while Tilda was a bit too subdued for my personal taste.. I always think of it when I watch the scene where Edmund asks for more turkish delight. Tilda's goes "no..!" in a pretty lame way and doesn't seem all that angry, Barbara goes "NHOOOOOUAAARRRGGGHHH!" and looks throbbing-vein-in-temple furious (and it's just comical when she snaps back into her "sweet voice" and pretends like she didn't just almost have a stroke out of anger, as if maybe Edmund wouldn't notice it :D). But I pick the BBC witch for nostalgic reasons and because I prefer a psychotically evil witch to one that just seems sort of cranky that there's humans around.

Whoa, look at me yakkin' away... sorry :)

Ephinie

05-02-2006, 06:26 AM

One thing that bothered me, I always pictured the WHITE Witch to be WHITE. Like paper white. So I think WMN coud've done better in that area.

She IS supposed to be paper white. It says so in the books. So you were right. I was a bit disappointed with that area, too.

I liked Tilda better, though it has been years since I saw the BBC versions. However, I did not like the way they made her dresses stiff and sticking out around the collars. That made it look like she couldn't move around very well, and I highly doubt Jadis would have truly worn anything that would have hindered her movement. As we see in MN, Jadis kicks arse. She is stronger than any man, and she wasn't afraid to fist-fight when her magic failed her in our world. I would envision her wearing something that is both imposing and gives her ample room for maneuverability. Her costumes in the Waldenmedia version looked neither... they looked plain and uncomfortable. In the BBC verision, though, her costume was even worse. So overall, I was more pleased with her in the new one (even though I STILL have a few gripes about it). Not to mention, Tilda is a much better actress than that other one.

-Daughter of Eve-

05-02-2006, 06:30 AM

I must say I like Tilda better.She fits more with the image I had of the white witch when I first read the book.I dunno why,but I always imagined the white witch as blonde and fair skinned,and without black eyeliner and red lips.That look is just so typical for a "bad lady" in movies.I think it was good that Tilda wanted to do something different with her look.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

05-02-2006, 03:34 PM

LifeMaiden

05-02-2006, 03:38 PM

I just like the White Witch because she can kick serious butt on the battlefield, looks great, and intimidates the heck out of males ;)

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

05-02-2006, 03:52 PM

I just like the White Witch because she can kick serious butt on the battlefield, looks great, and intimidates the heck out of males ;)
I have always like the white witch for some reason I just haven't figured it out yet ;)

QA48

05-02-2006, 04:02 PM

Can somebody post a pic of the old one? I can't seem to find one.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

05-02-2006, 04:58 PM

here a pic of the old one

Saruman

05-02-2006, 08:47 PM

Tilda has brought the White Witch to life in every way. She is ice-cold. I loved Barbara Kellerman's performance also, but Tilda takes the cake.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

05-02-2006, 11:10 PM

Tilda has brought the White Witch to life in every way. She is ice-cold. I loved Barbara Kellerman's performance also, but Tilda takes the cake.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2523/jadis388va.jpg
I agree with you my faithful ally;)

LifeMaiden

05-02-2006, 11:18 PM

That is a great signature of Saruman and the White Witch...both of them are so cool and elegant!! What a deadly team they would make in either world of Narnia or Middle Earth :)

Saruman

05-02-2006, 11:28 PM

Indeed so! :eek:

While Jadis was pure evil, Saruman began with a wonderful heart. His story, along with that of Denethor, turned out to be quite tragic in the end. :(

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

05-02-2006, 11:34 PM

That is a great signature of Saruman and the White Witch...both of them are so cool and elegant!! What a deadly team they would make in either world of Narnia or Middle Earth :)
I agree with you on that

Knight Aaron of Narnia

05-02-2006, 11:42 PM

I like Tilda Swinton!
I have seen BBC witch and she is soooo ugly!
Tilda Swinton has a deadly beauty!

Lucy for 3 nights

05-16-2006, 09:58 AM

I like Barbera Kellerman better (the BBC actress soz I know practically all the actors real names.) she was more evil than Tilda. Tilda was okay, but more manipulative. She doesn't really seem the evil kind of witch who would want to kill Aslan and stuff. Still I suppose Tilda redeemed herself slightly in the battle, but for me Barbera Kellerman is the best.

Rohan Princess

05-16-2006, 10:38 AM

i've seen the BBC ones and i really liked the which in those so i liked her better the first time i watched Narnia, but still Tilda is really good, she kinda grows on you

I♥Georgie

05-16-2006, 11:58 AM

I like Tilda Swinton!
I have seen BBC witch and she is soooo ugly!
Tilda Swinton has a deadly beauty!

BBC White Witch is ugly :) real ugly :(

I♥Georgie

05-16-2006, 01:37 PM

Nene

05-16-2006, 02:16 PM

Tilda forever!!!!!!!!!! Question: what is BBC?

Aravis Kenobi

05-16-2006, 03:00 PM

BBC: British Broadcasting Company. I like the White Witch better, but aren't the witch from Charn and the one from LWW the same person?

Nene

05-16-2006, 03:35 PM

Yup. WW from Charn got to Narnia with Digory and Polly remember?

Aravis Kenobi

05-16-2006, 07:31 PM

Yes, I remember. I was just making sure. Some people don't know that they're the same.

Saruman

05-17-2006, 02:34 AM

I read an excerpt out of a book that's been around for some 25 years and it somewhat muddles the fact that "Jadis" and the "White Witch" are actually one in the same person. I see now where some might begin to speculate. Argh! Why don't they get the facts straight?!? :p

Lucy for 3 nights

05-17-2006, 07:54 AM

They did get the facts right in Maugrims note it says

'Former occupant of these premises faun Tumnus is under arrest and is awaiting his trial on charge of high treason against her Imperial Majesty Jadis Queen of Narnia Chateline of Cair Paravel Empress of The Lone Island etc Also of comforting her set majesties enemie harbouring spies and fratonising with humans.' (whew try writing that without using the book. I'll check how accurate I am in a mo.)

So it is mentioned that the name of The White Witch is Jadis, it just doesn't use it anymore than that one time.

God Bless
Rachy xxx

Lucy for 3 nights

05-17-2006, 07:56 AM

Yes I got it all right I just couldn't be bothered to add the Signed Maugrim bit and I didn't put a the in but does that reall matter?

Love_Punch

06-10-2006, 10:51 AM

I think Tilda is so much better!

tottyfruitty

06-10-2006, 10:56 AM

Tilda all the way :D
she just looks evil and really pale adding to the effect that she lives in a ice castle
and she is also a great actress ;)

*Susan*

06-10-2006, 03:04 PM

So Tilda she was the best.

wolfpack

06-10-2006, 03:39 PM

Tilda Swinton all the way! :D

the Large Voice

06-17-2006, 01:39 AM

I prefer Barbara Kellerman's portrayal of Jadis - even if dark hair/ red lips/white skin is the "norm" for evil lady villains in movies... ;) The White Witch was supposed to have ghastly white skin, anyways!
Tilda wasn't evil enough, in my opinion. She just came off as very 'cold'.
She did try to cut Peter's head off - I'll give her that, but I still don't see her as the Queen Jadis I read about in "The Magician's Nephew". I can't really put my finger on what's missing, exactly. must...think...

Lucy the Marshwiggle

06-17-2006, 01:40 AM

Tilda Swinton was MUCH better!

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

06-17-2006, 03:19 AM

Tilda Swinton was MUCH better!
I agree :D

Tootsie

06-17-2006, 09:10 PM

Whether I watched the BBC version or not, I would still say Tilda was better. For a movie she was excellent. She had a 'misunderstood bad girl' about her that I liked, especially when she was cruel and vicious. She did an exceptional job, and I applaud her.

*applauds*

SuperSnoop

06-17-2006, 09:16 PM

TIlda,cuz it gives you a different opinion on what the white whitch looked like! and much more1

I♥Georgie

06-18-2006, 11:52 AM

QueenSusanofNarnia

06-18-2006, 12:38 PM

tilda Swinton All The Way Baby!!!!!!

MrsKeynes x3

06-18-2006, 09:19 PM

Tilda Swinton! She played such a good villian and it made me so mad because she was up for these movie awards as "Best Villian" but she ended up losing. This star wars guy won. I was soo mad lol.

AslansCountryBound!!!

07-05-2006, 05:13 PM

I like the Tilda because she can take on the characters beuat, stature and personality. But the woman in BBC could get dramatic, act more. They both did a great job, though.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

07-06-2006, 12:00 AM

I like the Tilda because she can take on the characters beuat, stature and personality. But the woman in BBC could get dramatic, act more. They both did a great job, though.
Tilda all The Way!!!!!

LifeMaiden

07-06-2006, 03:56 AM

Tilda all The Way!!!!!

She was born to play that role!! I couldn't picture anyone else playing it in the Narnia movie. When an actress or actor fits a role so well, you just can't imagine anyone else playing it. It's like with Gone with the Wind. Who could imagine anyone but Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh as the lead roles??

A true classic movie is remembered by the actors who portrayed the great characters!

-Daughter of Eve-

07-06-2006, 01:28 PM

She was born to play that role!! I couldn't picture anyone else playing it in the Narnia movie. When an actress or actor fits a role so well, you just can't imagine anyone else playing it. It's like with Gone with the Wind. Who could imagine anyone but Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh as the lead roles??

A true classic movie is remembered by the actors who portrayed the great characters!

I couldn't agree more on that :D Tilda was perfect for the part.She's perfect for any part (LOL :D).She really brought the character to life.She's a really talented actress! I don't think someone else could have done it better...I heard some where that Michelle Pfeiffer (<---spelling?) was gonna play Jadis at first.I wonder how that would have been...

LifeMaiden

07-10-2006, 10:46 PM

Some people did like Barbara Kellerman better...so I'll have to see how she compares with Tilda. But I don't think BK is very good-looking...maybe a witch isn't supposed to be beautiful. Still, for now, I'm going to stick with Tilda :D

office

07-11-2006, 12:53 PM

TILDA.For many reasons.I think tilda does the witch as so much more of a threat to all of narnia. And i dont think Barbra Kellerman makes edmund feel comfortable.

Aslan's Beloved Daughter

07-11-2006, 02:47 PM

I like Tilda a lot! She brings the WW into so much more than I could have imagined. I mean, she was very cool!

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

07-11-2006, 02:59 PM

I liked how Tilda played my favorite char she had that Looks Can Be Desiving to her when she talked to Edmund :D

stronger_WM

07-11-2006, 04:20 PM

I think that the lady in the BBC version made a better WW. Its mostly just because that's what I pictured the WW to look like in the 2005 vers. after watching the BBC version all my life.

I think Tilda Swinton is an amazing actress, but I like the other actress better. :)

caspian the 10th

07-12-2006, 12:17 AM

i think tilder did a good job as the WW, myself i think she is a better ww than the BBC version because she matches the description of the ww mor than the other 1 in BBC

the_mighty_lion

07-13-2006, 09:39 AM

Tilda defenetly.... she's an awesome actress!!!!

-Daughter of Eve-

07-13-2006, 09:44 AM

Tilda defenetly.... she's an awesome actress!!!!
Yes she is.I do really look up to talented actors and actresses,and she definately belongs in that category.

Aslan's Beloved Daughter

07-13-2006, 08:03 PM

She's got fighting skills....:p

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

07-13-2006, 10:09 PM

She's got fighting skills....:p
you got that right:D

-Daughter of Eve-

07-16-2006, 04:55 AM

She's got fighting skills....:p
Ooooh yeees :D

QueenSusanofNarnia

07-16-2006, 01:47 PM

TILDA!! It's just too bad she tried to kill Will and Skandar

Bee-kah

07-17-2006, 03:43 PM

haha!!

i like the white whitch better!

and are you kidding about the Will and Skandar thingy??

Sunrise

07-19-2006, 02:28 PM

Barbara Kellerman overacted the role. Her white witch always sounded and looked like she was about to burst a blood vessel. She played it like a campy comic book villain. And since she played the hag in Prince Caspian and the Green Witch in The Silver Chair the exact same way, I think I can blame the campiness on her as an actress rather than on the directing.

Tilda may not LOOK like the book's description to the letter, but she played the role with a subtle seductiveness that was far more dimensional than the old BBC version. You really believed Edmund could fall for her ploys, while with Kellerman you kept thinking about how idiotic he'd have to be to not see right through her. Tilda was very understated and chilly, which I think was perfect, even though it was not my expectation.

QueenSusanofNarnia

07-19-2006, 05:58 PM

haha!!

i like the white whitch better!

and are you kidding about the Will and Skandar thingy??

nope! not kidding! oh, wait, do u mean TILDA tried to kill 'em? NO, i meant her as Jadis tried to kill them as Peter and Edmund ... haha
and which witch? (meaning, Tilda or the BBC version?)

waterhogboy

07-20-2006, 11:32 AM

I dont know which Tilda you guys all wacthed, but it werent the one I watched. When she first meets Edmund and he asks if he can have some more Turkish Delight now, her 'No' is pitifully acted. Its supposed to sound like an unsupressed outburst, instead it just comes out like an uncaring mum trying to stop her kid dropping food on the floor.

Also, she doesn't look scary. She's about as scary as my old babysitter. And going by the description in MN, shes sposed to be 'the most beautiful woman Digory had ever seen'. If its Tilda, then Digory cant have met that many women...

Dernhelm

07-20-2006, 11:45 AM

I can see wanting to make it a little less screechy...but... (^). :p She over-did it.

I'm hoping they'll make her a bit more beautiful in MN; she really could look a lot nicer: http://www.narniaweb.com/img/swinton5.jpg

waterhogboy

07-20-2006, 04:27 PM

Now - you see - why couldnt the have made her look like that?!?!?! THAT is what the White Which looks like!!!! :mad:

Hallmark101Narnia

07-20-2006, 04:55 PM

I like the way the way that Tilda acts (though she was described as beautiful in the book, but the make up makes her look old) but Barbra Kellerman (however spelt) looked like the white witch. She was lovely and made things run slowely. In the newer one Tilda acts like she already knows who Edmund is and she makes the conversation short! I think that is why the movie was shorter than the BBC version.

~JadisTheWhiteWitch~

07-20-2006, 05:05 PM

Tilda rules and she rocks!!!! I liked her better!!!

-Daughter of Eve-

07-22-2006, 06:20 AM

Tilda rules and she rocks!!!! I liked her better!!!
I agree! Te he :D

Dh4nn_Cyr4nze

07-22-2006, 06:50 AM

Yeah, Tilda is great...

Solya

07-22-2006, 09:21 AM

Tilda all the way. I do like Barbara Kellerman but I didn't think that she was "cold" enough to play the White Witch. Barbara Kellerman sounded and acted like she just got onto a stage, whereas Tilda was more subdued and very natural.

Lucy_QueenofNarnia

07-29-2006, 02:30 AM

Tilda was better. I've only seen the BBC one like once and that was a long time ago, so I'd definitely say Tilda was better. I thought she was an excellent White Witch.

Narniafan357

07-29-2006, 08:40 AM

:) Tilda Swinton all the way!!!If they ever get anyone else to even play the White Witch,I can most likley get people to petition.Tilda's Great,I will always think she's better.Tilda's an amazing actress,the thought that she can pull off playing the ultimate paragon of evil shows how much of a stellar actress she is!!!

King Of Narbithia

08-01-2006, 04:13 PM

I like Tilda way better than barbara because bbcs witch (barbara) is just so like ARGGGGHHHHHHHAAHHHHHHHHHHH all the time. The witch is supposed to hide her darkness until she gets Ed into her castle, but in the bbc its like she had pms for example:

EDMUND: can i have just one more piece of turkish delight to eat on my way home?

Barbara aka ww: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHH

New Ed: Can i have 1 more piece

Tilda: NO! ( notice just a simple no) dont want to ruin ur appitiete

So Tilda. Because she hides her darkness until later and she is wayy less shouty and she can handle a wand and a sowrd better. Barbara just puts it up straight like shes gonna hit a bird and then straight down..Its like get ur aim right

lol i talk alot.