Hardest Movie?

[The Prince]

Okay there isnever a new thread here so I decided to start one :)
What movie do you think will be the hardest to make and why :confused:

[waterhogboy]

I think Magician's Nephew and Last Battle as they need so many special effects (creation and destruction of Narnia, destruction of Charn etc.) I don't know much bout film making, but I'd expect special effects to be the most difficult parts to do.

[she-elfwarrior19]

yes last battle and magicians nephew, but what about silver chair to? like all the giants and stuff

[DryadofLanternWaste]

I have to agree with Prince MN and LB are going to be the most difficult. Although HHB has two talking beasts as main characters, are they going to able to realistically create them?

-DoLW

[The Prince]

Personnly I... agree :) it will be hard to make the last battle and MN but I dont think horse and hisboyImean look at the new star wars Episodes 1,2 and soon 3 need I say more?

[waterhogboy]

That's true about silver chair. The underworld part might be quite difficult to do too.

[I'mbigger/you'reolder]

Last Battle, easily...or hard...I guess. With computers, though, they can do just about anything. But it would be difficult to get the whole ending down right.

[VixenG]

Personnly I... agree :) it will be hard to make the last battle and MN but I dont think horse and hisboyImean look at the new star wars Episodes 1,2 and soon 3 need I say more?

I agree that a horse and his boy will probably be the hardest film to make, mainly because it's the only film which isn't chronologically seperated from the others. Instead of following along the same lines of the others... (Children come to Narnia @ a time of great need in Narnia)... The plot follows a totally seperate path. Added to that the fact that it takes us out of Narnia and to a country which is not widely mentioned in other Narnia stories (save LB) and i think it will probably proove trickiest to shoot.

[Narniafreak]

How in ther world are they going to do the island where dreams come true. I mean, most of is is either noises or just the imagination of the charectures. And it's all completely black, too.

[Eruname]

well.... I can't really decide which one will be the hardest... I'll probably have to say the last battle or VoDT.

[Thanatos]

I agree that a horse and his boy will probably be the hardest film to make, mainly because it's the only film which isn't chronologically seperated from the others. Instead of following along the same lines of the others... (Children come to Narnia @ a time of great need in Narnia)... The plot follows a totally seperate path. Added to that the fact that it takes us out of Narnia and to a country which is not widely mentioned in other Narnia stories (save LB) and i think it will probably proove trickiest to shoot.Took the words right out of my mouth. Just what i was thinking. (i had a bit of a hard time reading Horse and His Boy, b/c it didnt follow the plot line as the others. But it was still good though)

[Evelien]

I feel that The Last Battle will be difficult to make. Not just considering the special affects and the CGI aspects of film, but the actual art. The Last Battle is such a powerful story and it's going to be tough to translate something that poignant and beautiful onto a screen. However, I have faith in our film makers and my only wish would be that they could pull it off and well too!

[holyboy]

I feel that The Last Battle will be difficult to make. Not just considering the special affects and the CGI aspects of film, but the actual art. The Last Battle is such a powerful story and it's going to be tough to translate something that poignant and beautiful onto a screen. However, I have faith in our film makers and my only wish would be that they could pull it off and well too!

i totally agree! some of the details that wouldn't matter in other books really make a difference in the effects of the movie! also this has a brand new setting that is like paradise at the end of the book, and if the set isn't good, it would wreck the whole movie. Also, you'll have to computer animate an army of dwarfs, horses, ect. and lastly, you'll have to get someone 2 depict all of the characters from the other books (except susan) @ the end when everyone is joined in the real Narnia

[inkspot]

The Last Battle does present production challenges, especially at the very end, the heaven/paradise/New Narnia part that Lewis found so beautiful he couldn't describe ...

Thankfully, that should be the last film they make in the series, so it will be years down the road. And as technical effects continue to improve, that means it should be the best film, effects-wise.

Think about this ... in 10 or 15 years, as we prepare for TLB movie release (should the franchise catch on), it will be as far advanced technically from LWW as Star Wars Episode 3 (Revenege of the Sith) is beyond the original Star Wars Episode 4 (which, although a great movie, today looks really low-rent).

[Evelien]

Yeah, just think of the technological advances that will be made! I mean, look at the movies we considered all high-tech in 1995 and how they compare to cinematic wonders made today, 10 years later. Can't wait!

[Dragon]

I think it would be very interesting to see how they could do Prince Caspian, because first the Pevensies get to Narnia, go through all the time figuring out where they are, but then Trumpkin comes along and tells them another story that lasts for quite a while and leads up to the trumpet calling them into narnia. It's kind of discontinuous. I guess they could start out with Caspian, go through his story until he blows the trumpet calling them into narnia, but then it would lose all the sense of wonder of the kids getting there.

It just seems that would be difficult to do.

[holyboy]

I think it would be very interesting to see how they could do Prince Caspian.

sry didn't do whole quote, but u can c above :D

i agree with wat ur saying. I tink it'll start off with the kids coming to Narnia, then split into the story of Caspian, until it comes to present (Narnia) time, where the kids meet D.L.F. I don't think we need to c the part where the kids are walking around in Narnia b4 D.L.F. shows up, because it'd look boring. just have a scene where they realize they're on Paravel.

however, we really won't get a good idea on how the director will set up the other Narnia movies until we c LWW

[crjr9833]

"Dawn Treader" will be tough.

[Evelien]

I guess there would be some challenging parts. Like, how you depict an island that exists off of dreams? Why do you think so?

[holyboy]

Nah, DT wouldln't be that hard. Yeah, there's stuff that you can only imagine, but that makes it easier for the director to work with. If there's no distinct description, he can do anything he wants, and no one (ie us) will complain

[Mudpuddle]

"Dawn Treader" would be the hardest. It would require the greatest number of sets. Realistic underwater scenes from the book would be difficult to make. Reepicheep (my favorite character aside from Aslan), would have to be created to perfection or fans will go crazy.

[Rhindon]

I think Prince Caspian will be hardest to pull off script wise. It's a great book, but I don't think it translates too well into film without some changes.

Example: In the film, people might think Caspian was a sissy for calling on Peter when, in the end, it was going to be a one on one duel. What they'll probably do is have Caspian fight Miraz on the field of battle and lose, that way, it will show that Caspian really did need Peter's help.

[holyboy]

Example: In the film, people might think Caspian was a sissy for calling on Peter when, in the end, it was going to be a one on one duel. What they'll probably do is have Caspian fight Miraz on the field of battle and lose, that way, it will show that Caspian really did need Peter's help.

I think the director would show the kids going into Narnia, then do the beginning credits, then start the story from where Caspian is born, returning to the kids when Trumpkin is going to the island. That way, when the kids save Trumpkin, they can have a hero, we're the old kings and queens, royal music shot. That way we know from the start that Caspian needed help.

[Valin Kenobi]

Last Battle--

Aside from the effects and artistic interpretation, it may be quite touchy trying to "sell" the picture. Strip the talking animals and it's a full-on wrath-of-God, paradise-and-damnation Book of Revelations movie, even more in-your-face than recent Armaggedon pictures like The Omega Code and Left Behind. That won't go over so well in some circles methinks.

OTOH, if the first 6 are well-accepted, people will be more inclined to accept TLB.

[Prince Caspian]

I think the Magician's Nephew will be the hardest film, not to make, but rather to keep people interested in. I loved the book so I'll love the film, but it doesn't have as much action in it.

[borntofly]

i don't think the movie will be that great. the creation was something that I like to imagine, not see on a screen.

[Tarkheena_Finduilas22]

I must say The Silver Chair or VDT. For many reasons. Realistic water (as seen above) the different islands, the duffers, Reepicheep (Also somewhere here) and various other things.

The Silver Chair for many reasons as well, the under world, The giants, (though I have seen the one in LWW and he looks great) and stuff. I'm not very good a making my point but this is what I think.

[SusanPevansie15]

i agree with tarkheena. (good name by the way)

[Aslan the Wise one]

I think they will all be hard in a way if that makes since,???

[benjamin_narnialover]

i don't think PC would be terribly difficult script wise. i'd start with the children getting sent to narnia, but then at some point start showing the story of caspian as well. similar to how the two towers and ROTK were done with their multiple story lines.

I think the story of MN makes it an icredibly hard movie to make. it really doesn't follow a normal movie plot line at all, and there's not much action to write. i havn't read it in a couple years, so i could be wrong, but i'm really not sure if it climaxes well for a movie. the creation scene would be really hard too, if just one thing was wrong (say aslan's song didn't fit) then the entire sequence would be terrible. at the same time, it's one of (in my opinion) the better books. and i'd love to see it made into a movie.

i think the LB really would be the most challenging movie to make. as it's already been said, it's really a judgement day story, which might not go over too well. the hardest part i think, would be the world inside the wardrobe. creating a world that was narnia only more real would be almost impossible to do well.

[unleavened]

I'm not so concerned about the special effects. I think the hard part comes in taking the book material and turning it into movie material. here's some of my concerns:
PC - continuity as was already mentioned in this thead
VODT - this is a bunch of little stories in tacked together and though this makes for good reading I've found that movies like that can sometimes be bad.
LB - There's just so much they could mess up regarding Lewis' world view in this one.

[she-elfwarrior19]

ya tarky you have some goo pints there! :)I think a hard one would be maybe, if they make it the MN, because (i havent read it in a while so bear with me) the great halls with the beautiful people? that could be difficult, maybe to HHB, to make Tashbann

[Tarkheena_Finduilas22]

tarky??? that's a new one.

[holyboy]

Here's my breakdown of things that may not make the movie great, and ways to fix it...

LWW: The climax is not as action paced as other fantacy books. There is only a short batle scene, and rightly so, because it is a kids book. However, this can be seen as really dull to the viewer

To fix it, you just add more of the battle scene, and show some of the battle before Aslan comes. I believe this is what they were planning to do.

PC: The problem here is the Caspian storyline. If Caspian's story is introduced too early, you will loose the effect of the story, and if its introduced too late, then the viewer will be confused, and tune out the movie.

There really isn't a way to fix it. All they can do is test fitting the story into the movie and different places, and try to find the best place to put these scenes

VDT I cannot see this whole book being done into the movie. There are too many side stories that don't take up much space in a book, but when put into a movie takes up a whole lot of space. Also, there is the age concern. Skandar Keynes (Edmond) and Georgie Henley (Lucy,) depending on how quickly they make the films, may have voice change issues because they are getting older. Lastly, Eustace's diary entries are a funny part in this book, and a great way to see what Eustace was like before he was turned into a dragon.

Sadly, what will probably happen is some sid stories will be shortened or cut from the movie. I can see the Lone Islands adventure being cut down dramatically. I don't know how the writers will be able to make the movie shorter. We'll just have to see. With the voice concern, the only thing you can do is make the movies as quick as you can, and hope one or the other's voices don't change. Lastly, with the diary entries, this is a delecate part, that if done wrong will seem really boring. I would think to jut cut that part out AND INSTEAD put some of those lines in some of Eustace's lines in conversation.

SC: The only thing I am concerned with are the creatures underground (cannot find SC at the moment) They need to create a variety of cfreatures with little description of what they looked like, except they were really white.

I don't really have a great concern with this. I think WETA (if they are still doing the movie) will do a great job, and I have faith in that.

I must go eat, but I will be back with a edit

[EX12]

I may be new to the site but I am not new to the narnia books. And with the recent devopments in tecnology i dont think that any of the books would be hard to develop into films just the fact that C.S.lewis puts alot of description into his books and that for a film director to get the scenes exactly right would take a age. But the books would be always far superior in the long run.

[inkspot]

Welcome, EX12, I didn't see you post before! I agree with you, all of the books could make extraordinary movies.

If you want, pop over the Introductions Thread and tell us more about you -- and check out the other threads and give us your insight. :)

[Lionheart]

can't wait for HHB.. it means so much to me. i love all the books, but HHB and LB have certain special places in my heart. maybe because they've never been filmed before, so it was all up to my imagination :)

[Cassie]

can't wait for HHB.. it means so much to me. i love all the books, but HHB and LB have certain special places in my heart. maybe because they've never been filmed before, so it was all up to my imagination :)

I l ove HHB too... and seeing as PC is already being written (but not HHB) it leaves me wondering whether HHB will be done at all. I wish it would... I love Aravis and Shasta... and Bree and... wait, it's coming to me... wait... nope.

I think LB will be difficult to make into a film well, because so many people have their own ideas and it really is the defining moment of the series. I still cry everytime I read it, so i'll want to cry at the movie too..

[she-elfwarrior19]

Hardest movie, hmmmmmmmmm i have to think a little more on that one.

I cant wait to see VDT, there is so much stuff in that book.

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

Hardest movie?hmmmm, possibly the one requiring the largest CG work?i wonder if they didn't just do like peter jackson and make all the movies @ least with all four of the pevensies, all at once and just use a little make-up to make them look a few years older to account for the time frame?would save a bit of time that way.
Also, i wonder what kind of horse they'd cast Bree as?I think he strikes me as a big black fresian-i think that's spelled right...-type,seeing as he's from Narnia.(just 'cause i love fresians!hehe).

[Narnian_Lady]

IMO, the hardest film to make is going to be The Last Battle. I seriously hope they get that far since I really want to see all the narnia books make it to film.

[inkspot]

Yes! I hope all the books get to be movies, as long as LWW is good -- if it (heaven forbid) turns out to be poor or cheesy, I hope they quit and don't make any more ...

Although based on that logic, none of the Star Trek movies would ever have been made, and every single one of them was better than the original Star Trek.

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

very good point on the star trek movies....V'ger kinda gave me the creeps. :)

[inkspot]

Yah, and that bald woman ... it was just really a poor movie. But the others have been better and some have been really good.

[QueenLucy07]

Well, movie r not that hard to make anymore, cause of all the help from compuiter these days, so i dont think there is a movie out thewre that cannot b made.

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

good point Queen Lucy :D

[Gryphon]

yes but which of them is going to be the most difficult i wonder??? id think "The Magician's Nephew" or "The Last Battle" are going to be the most difficult...

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

my thought is the last battle......well,the one w/ the largest battle actually....hehe :D

[Elendil]

If they make it though, I dout they'll keep all the references about God. Like when Lucy says (something like this anyway) : 'Yes, in our world too, a stable once had something in it that was bigger than the whole world.'

[glamel]

Well, movie r not that hard to make anymore, cause of all the help from compuiter these days, so i dont think there is a movie out thewre that cannot b made.

i agree!, all that really matters is a good director and a good staff ad of course good actors and actresses!!!:D :rolleyes:

[mcmonkeyburger]

all that really matters is a good director and a good staff ad of course good actors and actresses!!!:D :rolleyes:

yes... and a great visual effects and production design department!

[Narborg]

Dont warry about the specal effects, Weta Workshops can do wounders....

[K.Evenstar]

I remember when I was much, much younger, I was talking about the making on the CoN with my parents, and they said that there was no way the Last Battle could be made. Thankfully special effects etc have come a long way, so what seemed impossible now isn't. I really hope to see them all on screen, but I hope they don't take out the heart of it to appeal to a more secular audience.

Keve xx

[she-elfwarrior19]

Um i have a qeustion evenstar, did they mention why it couldnt be made? Or certain parts that would be hard to do?
I am sure they will make TLB it'll be great

[Soli_Deo_Gloria]

I would think that Voyage of the Dawn Treader would be the easiest. Much of the book is seperate encounters on different islands. While the thought is not cool, it is possible to preserve the main story line by cutting out some of the islands. Personly I think graphics will never be a problem again(look at King Kong coming out, a 1000 lb gorilla acts with a 100 lb woman and the other characters have hand to hand combat with CG characers). The hardest movie will be the one with the most complex story line and least action. So I would say Magician Nephew. These movies are being made off the popularity of LOTR, and one of LOTR's selling points is the battles. LWW, PC, The Horse and His Boy, and LB all have great battle scenes. VoDT and SC while lower on aciton do have adventure story lines and intense action scenes. But to my recollection Magician Nephew is more of a intellectual batte right? In order to do that movie you would need a different director willing to chance a different feel. Even VoDT and SC need a different feel than the others.
Maybe the studio will only chance LWW, the Horse and His Boy and PC. Trilogy, contigious and having a semi-satifying closing. Course with the multi-movie Harry Potter series maybe they will try for more than the traditional trilogy. Let us hope.

[grimmcest]

I'd say The Last Battle.
I mean... It'd be wicked hard to match the imagination of the Narnia fans, let alone their idea of how Narnia looked when it was destroyed. Anywho, if they do do LB, it's going to be a while and maybe by then, CGI will be unimaginable.

[Ite]

I think the Last Battle would be the hardest to make, the story is pretty depressing..

[melbren]

I think The Horse and His Boy - not because of making two horses talk, not because of difficult desert scenes, not because of any special effects issue - but because of the whole Calormene thing. Disney will be too scared to make something that people will view as politically incorrect now a days. I hope they make it though, because it's one of my favorites.

[melbren]

I l ove HHB too... and seeing as PC is already being written (but not HHB) it leaves me wondering whether HHB will be done at all. I wish it would... I love Aravis and Shasta... and Bree and... wait, it's coming to me... wait... nope.

I think LB will be difficult to make into a film well, because so many people have their own ideas and it really is the defining moment of the series. I still cry everytime I read it, so i'll want to cry at the movie too..
... Winn? Isn't Winn (sp?)the other horse?

[Valin Kenobi]

I think The Horse and His Boy - not because of making two horses talk, not because of difficult desert scenes, not because of any special effects issue - but because of the whole Calormene thing. Disney will be too scared to make something that people will view as politically incorrect now a days. I hope they make it though, because it's one of my favorites.

Quite true. I can't decide which I'd dislike more--changing them to some generic D&D/Euro-medieval society, or scrapping the movie altogether. Still, I think there would be ways to do it without coming off as un-PC (except of course to the fringe minority who takes offense at everything) in the unlikely event Disney is willing to chance it.

... Winn? Isn't Winn (sp?)the other horse?

I believe it is Hwin.....

[Valin Kenobi]

P.S.:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-12-01-narnia-side_x.htm

Another change is almost certain to come if movies are made of some of the later books in which Narnia's enemies come from Calormen, a neighboring country where the people are swarthy and carry scimitars. Adamson says he would change the racial characteristics of the Calormenes so they could not be taken for Middle Eastern Muslims, raising the specter of a war of civilizations.

"I think if we get that far we'll have to look at it from a design perspective," Adamson says. "The White Witch wasn't even human. It was a very easy thing. We looked at the origins of her design as coming from another world. If I were to approach these later books, I would do a very similar thing (with the Calormenes). Instead of looking for earthly origins, I would look to create a new sort of race."

Alan Jacobs, author of The Narnian: The Life and Imagination of C.S. Lewis, applauds the notion of such a change. "I think Lewis thought he could draw on the ancient tradition in Europe of fearing the Ottoman Empire," Jacobs says. "So he changed the name, but kept all the imagery of the dangerous Middle East, something everybody in his generation could recognize and respond to. But then things changed, and in the 20th Century all the threats to Europe were internal. And so that whole tradition was swept away.

"Now it's coming back. But it's not the Ottoman Empire this time, it's terrorists. That's a very interesting historical irony and it's going to make it very difficult for those movies to get made without significant changes. Otherwise, the movies would be said to exacerbate ethnic tensions and prejudice against Arabs. Disney would not want to touch that stuff with a 10- foot pole."

[Ramandu'sdaughter]

no hesitation on my part: Last Battle will be the hardest to make, solely because of the ending it has, i mean come on... the world within the worlds. if they plan on doing it any justice at all they'll have to bring in some MAJOR out of this world effects for background and scenery. and that doesn't even include what they'll have to do for the hellfire battle, Puzzle and Shift, and the Tisroc, man that book is just awesome.

[littlemanpoet]

Difficulty will be determined by putting the story together in a way that works for movies.

That said, Prince Caspian should be pretty easy. Using LotR as an example, FotR had one plot line with an aside for Gandalf at Isengard; TTT had three different plot threads. RotK had as many as five at certain points. Prince Caspain has only two. All they need to do is interlace back and forth between the two lines in a way that holds suspense while giving the info needed to move the story.

Voyage of the Dawn Treader is episodic. Like Oh Brother Where Are Thou, and like The Oddyssey. It won't be hard at all.

The Silver Chair has the mystery of the clues, and the Spell on Rillian. There's lots of drama, suspense, and comedy (with Puddleglum).

The Horse and his Boy is another episodic adventure story. I don't think there'll be a problem with the Calormenes or Tashbaanites. They're from a time long ago, namely medieval Arabia. Being historic, there's not really a PC problem.

The Magician's Nephew starts out in an earlier time, which creates one remove; then there's world-jumping - that's tough; the human sympathy element can be developed big-time with Diggory's mother, and there's the comedy of the Uncle magician to help things along. The scene with the apple is very dramatic. This could be all about pacing and giving each scene its due compared to the others. The creation scene should be one of the most enjoyable scenes in the movie - very magical!

The Last Battle is dark. Everybody dies - or seems to. This could be depressing, especially as there doesn't seem to be any let-up in the story, according to my memory (kinda like Frodo and Sam in Mordor, only not quite that bad). I guess I'm pretty much in agreement with those who think The Last Battle will be the toughest. There are many concepts that seem more literary and less cinematic, to me. How do you pull off the Dwarfs in their "cabin", thinking flowers are dung, without it coming off as too comical? It was comical, but in a very, very sad way. Can cinema capture that? I dunno....

[EagleMan165]

Quite true. I can't decide which I'd dislike more--changing them to some generic D&D/Euro-medieval society, or scrapping the movie altogether. Still, I think there would be ways to do it without coming off as un-PC (except of course to the fringe minority who takes offense at everything) in the unlikely event Disney is willing to chance it.



I believe it is Hwin.....

Most "pollitical correctness" nowadays isn't correct at all.

[onlymystory]

I think the Horse and His Boy would be difficult just because of keeping interest, all the others carry along characters from other books. I would bet that the pevensies as Kings and Queens of Narnia would have a little more involvement than they do in the book. The other difficulty would be Dawn Treader, just because of all the different sets. I wonder how creepy they'll make the island where dreams come true. I always thought that kind of place is a pretty good picture of hell.

[littlemanpoet]

I think the Horse and His Boy would be difficult just because of keeping interest, all the others carry along characters from other books. I would bet that the pevensies as Kings and Queens of Narnia would have a little more involvement than they do in the book.I bet they have the Pevensies' roles stretched and added to. Same idea as with Arwen in LotR, for example. Or Eomer takes over the role of Erkenbrand. That kind of thing. They could have Edmund show up earlier than in Tashbaan.

[EagleMan165]

LB Definatly... Although, they will all have their hard parts for producing. for example, SC is freakingly dark compared to the other books, so the mood for that will be a whole lot different. Plus the queen turns into a snake. (I don't think that anyone turns into anything in any of the other books [except in LWW when people turn into stone.])

Crikey Look at the size of that one!!!

...but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 3:18

[EagleMan165]

How did you get the pictures in like you did. I've been trying to figure out how to do it and the only thing I could figure out was how to put them in as attachments with the word attachments up above it

[SilverSea]

I think all of them would be difficult (in a good way) but maybe Dawn Treader

[~Grateful * Surrender~]

I personally agree with SilverSea about themallbeingdificult but with how wellthe made LWW I think it will supriseus all

[sukapesta]

last battle... the whole afterlife scene, narnia-within-narnia and aslan's world... phew, good look with those...

[littlemanpoet]

I heard that LB is the next one they'll do. :eek: Can anyone substantiate that rumour?

[thelawtman]

no they have already annouced that Prince Caspian is the next on in line to be made sorry to kill your dreams.

[littlemanpoet]

no they have already annouced that Prince Caspian is the next on in line to be made sorry to kill your dreams.
No, I'm glad. I think they should do them in the order written. Thanks for the good news.

[stronger_WM]

Yeah Prince Caspian is the next one, and the one if they do a next one will be the one called like The Voyage Death... something like that. I haven't read all the books so I don't know but its like the one with Edmund and Lucy in it ( :( NO WILLIAM MOSELEY) But I'm so happy that Prince Caspians next because it has all 4 of the kids and ^___^ you know

[thelawtman]

actually they are not doing them in order becasue Magicans nephew is first. Thy are only doing them in published order which kida sucks they should have doen lww than mn

[stronger_WM]

actually they are not doing them in order becasue Magicans nephew is first. Thy are only doing them in published order which kida sucks they should have doen lww than mn

no littlemanpoet was saying that he? liked that they were doing it in the order that he wrote them. Meaning published.

[littlemanpoet]

I want to see them as movies in the order written and published in the first place:
LWW, PC, VDT, SC, H&hB, MN, then LB. It's the best way.

So yes, stronger_WM.

[thelawtman]

I think they should stay true to the series and after they establishe tlww thy should do the others in chronological order.

[littlemanpoet]

I think they should stay true to the series and after they establishe tlww thy should do the others in chronological order.
But isn't "true to the series" the order in which Lewis wrote them?

[Jacksie]

C.S. Lewis once wrote back to a boy who asked about this and said he would prefer they be read in Chronological order (ie, the order the events happened in Narnia) so that would be The Magician's Nephew, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, The Horse and His Boy, Prince Caspian, Voyage of the Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair and then The Last Battle.

But to reply to the topic, what was it? Oh yeah, I think it would be a toss up between the Last Battle and The Magician's Nephew. It would be hard not to let the computer animation take over those two movies.

[~Rogue~]

Yeah CGI can ruin a film if its done badly and obviously, especially in battle scenes.

I think PC and VOTD are proving hard at the moment because of the actors growing up and all that.

[SakuraJapan66]

Can you make role plays?

[NarniaEdd]

Wow I think Voyage of the Dawn Treader !!! it would be sssooo hard to make it !!.....there are a lot of islands, dragons, the big snake, uuufff I think that would be the hardest, and it would also be the longest I think .... another choice would be Last Battle !.......I don't think MN would be so hard because , there are a lot of parts that can be filmed out on London's streets and houses !

[Mrs.Tumnus7]

I was thinking maybe Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Like with the dragon and half of the movie is always on the ocean. And like Narniafreak said, how are they going to make an island where dreams come true? But I do agree with everyone elts as well. MN
and The Last Battle would be the hardest! And those two are my favorite books out of the series beside TLWW.

[lions mane]

o.k. i only read the first couple of post in this thread, so bare with me if u guys got this answer already. ;)

i think definitely Voyage! i just don't know how they are going to do all the shootin in the ocean, and it has to be in the ocean, it can't just be a blue screen ya know? i want to see one of the best narnia books as real as possible! ya know? and then the different islands!

and they need someone just drop dead goregious to play ramidus daughter! (i was thinking kiera knightly) and they need the perfect little brat to play eustace (the best character ever)! ya know?

[Señor Puntos]

How in ther world are they going to do the island where dreams come true. I mean, most of is is either noises or just the imagination of the charectures. And it's all completely black, too.
Last time I checked blackness was pretty easy to do. But I've never checked.

[Faun 3.0]

I think it will be hard to keep the audiences interest in MN, because there is no battle. It'll probably only be an hour and 10 - 15 minutes. But there should be enough cool things that will make it memorable

[Tweetsie]

I thinkt he hardest movie to MAKE would probably be TLB, or VDD. LB because the ending is so dramatic, big, and of SO MUCH significance, it's going to be HARD to get it with CGI without ruining it with the computer. VDD because of all the sets they have to have, and the water.. plus... dragons? Calling the crew from Harry Potter GoF... ;)

[SusanoftheSouthernSun]

I say "The Last Battle" because of needing almost all the characters from before and because of how intense it is. The fights and all the creatures. It would be easy to mess something up, especially the last bit.

[Queen Swanwhite]

Yes, the last battle aswell. :D ;) Then there's also the Magician's Nephew. The whole, singing the world into existense, and Polly and Digory riding on a winged horse.

[stronger_WM]

Yes, the last battle aswell. :D ;) Then there's also the Magician's Nephew. The whole, singing the world into existense, and Polly and Digory riding on a winged horse.

I think them riding the winged horse will be easy because they already have done that kind of special effect with Harry Potter so yeah. Yeah I agree with SusanoftheSouthernSun because they will need everyone they had before for the Last Battle.

[Queen Swanwhite]

I think them riding the winged horse will be easy because they already have done that kind of special effect with Harry Potter so yeah. Yeah I agree with SusanoftheSouthernSun because they will need everyone they had before for the Last Battle.

I suppose, but it has to look realistic. How are they going to do the singing Narnia into existence thing, and make it good? :rolleyes:

[♥Green Eyed Goddess♥]

The last battle probably and The Magicians Nephew as well like everyone said. But surely they cant be that hard with WILL acting in them!

[Queen Swanwhite]

The last battle probably and The Magicians Nephew as well like everyone said. But surely they cant be that hard with WILL acting in them!

:rolleyes: I suppose! lol ;)

[Aravis Kenobi]

I think The Last Battle will be the hardest film to make, as I've noticed a few others have stated. I'm really itching to see TLB come to the silver screen.

[Puzzle]

All movies in the Chronicles of Narnia genre's are going to be very hard to make i would think.

I think the Voyage of the Dawn Treader will be pretty tough.

Imagine trying to make the ship and all of the perils that the crew face along the way. Not to mention even the time when they teleport into the ship.

[SusanoftheSouthernSun]

I heard they are considering making Voyage and The Silver Chair, a bit like the BBC did.

I wonder though about the other three and if anyone will ever take a chance and make them?

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

The Voyage of the Dawn Treader definately has the largest challenges in filming, by far.

How do they film the scene with the sea serpent coiling itself around the ship?

How do they possibly portray the island where dreams come true correctly? This should be a larger obstacle, in theory, than bringing Aslan to life. Of course, more time was spent on Aslan because he had alot of screentime, but bringing this island onto the screen will be more challenging to figure out.

The Dufflepuds.

The magician's spellbook.

Eustace's dragon experience.

The birds, setting/clearing of the table on Ramandu's island.

I think the reason this movie is the most challenging is because Lewis put so many events into this book that he spent less time describing all these things. He left alot to the imagination in this book as he ran through all the islands. All of these island are going to have to be interpreted and represented appropriately on the screen, and it is a large challenge. I'm sure Douglas Gresham will do his best to advise them, but it's still a daunting task.

Lewis spelled out pretty clearly all the events that happened in MN and LB. He put alot more description into those books, there will be alot less interpretation and guesswork when making those movies than in Dawn Treader. I'm not saying those movies will be easy, but I don't think they're as large a challenge as Dawn Treader is for the reasons I've already stated.

[SakuraJapan66]

yes last battle and magicians nephew, but what about silver chair to? like all the giants and stuff
but they made a bbc one so its not that hard

[I Luv Green Day]

but they made a bbc one so its not that hard


hey, has anyone else seen BENHWARMERS? that movie was funny as heck! omg i wanna c it again!!!!

[sarabear#1]

no never seen that movie but narnia is way better

[timbalionguy]

All of the Narnia stories have technical challenges for making them into films. Here are a few of my thoughts on each film.

The most difficult? IMHO, Magician's Nephew. That film has 'creation' things going on all around the live action. It has to be superbly done to be 'believable'. The soundtrack for such a film has to be top-notch as well, as describing creation with music is very important to the story.

Next is the Last Battle. A lot of complex effects here, but a lot of them can be done with more traditional animaltion. Again, the effects have to be flawlwess. As far as the final scene, IMHO, a good director would not show what happens, but rather the character's reaction.

VDT is next. A lot of different situations, many in and around water. The scale of this film will require some dramatic location footage as well as combining water tank work with matte effects. As someone else mentioned, Reepicheep has to be perfect.

HHB is next. This should actually be a straightforward film in many respects. The talking horses are such a strong dominant thread that it actually makes the animaltion job easier (but larger in sheer content). Good actors will be needed to make this film come alive. The battle sequence is also a big challenge, in that it is the most carefully described of the major battles in the Chronicles, and should be depicted as such.

LWW is next, due the scale of the battle at the end of the film.

Prince Caspian will be fairly straghtforward, with the tree army being the most difficult scene(s). There has been some discussion about rearranging this film to eliminate the backtracking in the book. I personally think the story should be told in the order Lewis wrote it. A good director can bridge the relatively small continuity gaps.

The Silver Chair will be the most straightforward IMHO. Again, good actors will be needed for Jill, Eustace and puddleglum, as much of the sory is about their journey. Although there are some challenging effects here and there (Bism comes to mind), there is nothing truly massive about this film's making.

Narnia fans are very loyal, tenacious, and know their subject well. Overall, Walden needs to stick to the storyline, keep the spiritual message intact, and maintain a high artistic standard. If they do this consistently, CoN could go down as easily the greatest series of films of all time.

[SusanoftheSouthernSun]

All of the Narnia stories have technical challenges for making them into films. Here are a few of my thoughts on each film.

The most difficult? IMHO, Magician's Nephew. That film has 'creation' things going on all around the live action. It has to be superbly done to be 'believable'. The soundtrack for such a film has to be top-notch as well, as describing creation with music is very important to the story.

Next is the Last Battle. A lot of complex effects here, but a lot of them can be done with more traditional animaltion. Again, the effects have to be flawlwess. As far as the final scene, IMHO, a good director would not show what happens, but rather the character's reaction.

VDT is next. A lot of different situations, many in and around water. The scale of this film will require some dramatic location footage as well as combining water tank work with matte effects. As someone else mentioned, Reepicheep has to be perfect.

HHB is next. This should actually be a straightforward film in many respects. The talking horses are such a strong dominant thread that it actually makes the animaltion job easier (but larger in sheer content). Good actors will be needed to make this film come alive. The battle sequence is also a big challenge, in that it is the most carefully described of the major battles in the Chronicles, and should be depicted as such.

LWW is next, due the scale of the battle at the end of the film.

Prince Caspian will be fairly straghtforward, with the tree army being the most difficult scene(s). There has been some discussion about rearranging this film to eliminate the backtracking in the book. I personally think the story should be told in the order Lewis wrote it. A good director can bridge the relatively small continuity gaps.

The Silver Chair will be the most straightforward IMHO. Again, good actors will be needed for Jill, Eustace and puddleglum, as much of the sory is about their journey. Although there are some challenging effects here and there (Bism comes to mind), there is nothing truly massive about this film's making.

Narnia fans are very loyal, tenacious, and know their subject well. Overall, Walden needs to stick to the storyline, keep the spiritual message intact, and maintain a high artistic standard. If they do this consistently, CoN could go down as easily the greatest series of films of all time.

I agreee with most of that. Maybe not the exact order, but as to which parts are the most difficult. I think that Walden will stick to the storyline. I know some say they didn't with LWW, but I think they did.

[office]

i agree that mn and lb will be hard to make but what about vodt?

[Apple_Of_Life29]

i think the hardest part in all of them would be the talking beasts, in order to make them realistic w/cgi i saw the thing on how lon git took to make aslan-it would take soooooo long for all the rest!!!

[AslansSoldier]

Personally, and this is just my humble opinion, I think that all of the movies but the Horse and His Boy will be difficult to make cause of all the special effects and stuff.
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[Danny Darnia]

Last Battle! Those movie will full of CG.For Shift,Puzzle n Jewel.Dont forget about TASH (I'm curious...will this creature as spooky as Dementor in HP). N the movie should get the dramatic effect of the end of the world

[Wunderkind]

I dunno actually..but I wish they could hurry up a bit with the movies,or else it would take SOOO LONG TIME to make them all :p

[Rhindon]

Dont forget about TASH (I'm curious...will this creature as spooky as Dementor in HP).

The dementors were not that spooky at all. Even the Nazgul weren't spooky enough.

I imagine that a lot of darkness and smoke will accompany Tash.

[Samwise Gamgee]

I think the hardest book to film will be The Dawn Teader. :)

[Narnian-Queen-93]

the last battle or the voyage of the dawn treader.

[Danny Darnia]

The dementors were not that spooky at all. Even the Nazgul weren't spooky enough.

I imagine that a lot of darkness and smoke will accompany Tash.

I agree for using smoke.Does Dementor not spooky? The Dementor made the movie rates move to PG-13. I think it spooky......for children :D

[buckmana]

from www.usatoday.com movie section

Another change is almost certain to come if movies are made of some of the later books in which Narnia's enemies come from Calormen, a neighboring country where the people are swarthy and carry scimitars. Adamson says he would change the racial characteristics of the Calormenes so they could not be taken for Middle Eastern Muslims, raising the specter of a war of civilizations.

"I think if we get that far we'll have to look at it from a design perspective," Adamson says. "The White Witch wasn't even human. It was a very easy thing. We looked at the origins of her design as coming from another world. If I were to approach these later books, I would do a very similar thing (with the Calormenes). Instead of looking for earthly origins, I would look to create a new sort of race."



I don't know if that's the way to go. I get the predujice issue. But I'm a stickler for keeping things as they are. If they were like that in the book, they should be like that in the movie.

Besides, it is a MAJOR plot point in the Horse And His Boy. Although Shasta never questioned it, the metaphorical lightbulb goes on when Bree points out that he is a Northerner. He has no physical resemblance to Arsheesh, the fisherman that found him as a baby.

Basically, to stick to this, no matter what ethnic group you choose (and they can't be caucasian (see above)), someone is going to be offended.

But the point is made that the Calormens are not all bad (although Aravis and Emeth are the only ones I can remember as being wholly good). The scribe for Aravis' father is another one (Aravis says he loves her more than the light, a poetic (and she's making the prose up as she's telling her story - go Aravis!) way of saying he is very fond of her, hence the helping in her plan to escape to Narnia). Lasraleen maybe, but she was a bit (a lot) empty-headed.

Do you think they'll invent a new type of human then? I just hope it doesn't go the way the Centaurs did in LWW. Centaurs are usually depicted as having human faces. In LWW movie, they have marked differences (at least, the men did, the women seemed to be closer to the norm). But I was tolerant of that because they're not wholly human anyway.

But anyway, about the difficulties of the films:

Prince Caspian will be easy. They just have to go back to the places they shot for LWW. Dawn Treader will be harder. But not so much more. All you need is boat sets and islands. Silver Chair will require a giant's castle, a swamp and the underground realm of the gnomemen. Any cave system (or a fake one) will do there. And remember, these were all done in the tv version. So, it can't be that hard.

Last Battle won't be that much more complicated then LWW or Prince Caspian. It will require a greater number of location shoots for the end sequence (inside the stable), however.

The Horse and His Boy will be the toughest. They will need to create the entire city of Tashbaan (well, not really). But they will need a detailed model for when Shasta, Aravis, Bree and Hwin are looking at it before they enter. Aside from that, the Tashbaan sets will be streets, the Narnian guesthouse, Lasraleen's home, the palace of the Tisroc (not much, because you'll only see corridors and the room when they plot the invasian of Archenland), and the place where Aravis escapes the city (it's close to the Tisroc's palace, a garden with a gate).

Aside from that location, they'll need the Tombs, the desert, the pass to Archenland (it's a valley with a river), the Hermit's place and the castle of Archenland.

[Something Wicked!!~.^]

hmn... one would think the Dawn Treader and... the Last Battle.... Magicians Nephew... maybe one or to more....

[Daughter*of*the*King]

I say Magician's Nephew because of all the special efects. I mean how are they gonna do the world in between the worlds, I forget what Lewis calls it. But it has been such a long time since I've it maybe i am making it a bigger thing than it is.
Also the Voyage of the Dawn Treader. It's gonna be a major pain to film on the ocean plus all the special effects.

[Tirian of Narnia]

I say last battle still. That's the one if they screw it up people will be most upset about. I know I would be upset if they screw it up. I doubt they'll even make it though cuz they prolly think its to christiany. If they do though I hope they don't strip it of all the message CS. Lewis intended it to have. I would refuse to see it then. But lets face it, they can't have the last battle with out atleast some christian stuff in it, after all, that's what the whole book's about. Well, that's what the lion the witch and the wardrobe is about to but they did a farely well job of still puting the christian stuff in there without actually saying it. hmm... maybe last battle would be ok the way they made LWW. But I still don't like the idea. But don't pay any atention to me, I'm just worrying about who they'll cast as Tirian. LOL

[Alexandra Pevensie]

sorry, but i really don't think "voyage" will be all that difficult...i mean, they did a bbc version of it! (no offense)...but seriously, i think that the whole thing in the silver chair will be hard where they're trying to get out of underground before it floods...last battle will be a hard one to please all the fans, but not necessarily hard to make, if that makes sense at all...

[Aslan's Beloved Daughter]

I believe that the hardest but most breath-taking film they will make is going to be TMN. The creation of Narnia, the tree, and the growing of Lantern Waste will take a lot of hard work. Also, i don't know how they are going to make Jadis look like, maybe Tilda will play her again? Anyways, since it IS my favorite book in the series, i cannot wait!!!

[usatoffeefan]

i dont think they will ever make a TMN movie... although i would love to see Aslan sing the world into existence.... (i get the chills just thinking about that....)

[~RuthietheGentle~]

I just wanted to post something, Hi Hi Hi Hi guys guys how are you guys doing? Well I'm bored so please respond..... :p

[usatoffeefan]

hola senorita... (i'm not spanish... i just like saying that) or maybe i should say
Bonjour Madmoiselle.