Why Caspian is Next

[QueenSusanofNarnia]

OK--Alot of people are wondering why Prince Caspian is the next film. I just figured this out this morning when I was getting ready to go see LWW for the second time.

LWW takes place one Earth year before Prince Caspian--Each of the Pevensies are one year older. If they did HBB next, then they'd be alot older--Peter {William Moseley} would probably be near 20 {he's 17}. They need each of the kids to be one year (closley more or less) older. So, Prince Caspian is next. After that, it will be Voyage of the Dawn Treader becuase Lucy and Edmund are supposed to be one year older. After that, The Silver Chair, because Eustace needs to be only one year older. Then, The Last Battle, because Eustace and Jill need to bee only one year older, and Lucy, Peter and Edmund need to be 3 years older than they were in LWW. The last movie--I think--they are going to film is the Magicians Nephew, just after HBB.

Yours truly

[narnia+north]

I never thought of that. Do you think that the movie the horse and his boy is going to be a good movie? i mean the book was alright.

[EdmundtheGiantCrusher]

Ok, I dont think that Magician's Nephew will be last. I think that the movies will be filmed in the same order as the books were released. Honestly, I don't want to go see The LAST Battle knowing that there will be two more movies coming out. It's gonna turn out like freaking Star Wars Episode I if they do that. So i say Caspian, Voyage, Chair, Nephew, Horse, and Battle in that order.

[Crimson]

i think they should have done Magicans, wardrobe, horse and boy, caspian, voyage, silver chair, last battle. it makes more sense in that order

[Oddish]

Actually, according to the semi-official timeline, "The Last Battle" takes place in 1949, and LWW in 1940. Figure that PC was in '41, and VDT was in '42. Also, Chair would have to be set less than a year after VDT: Eustace was just back at school, and the bullying scum at Experiment House were just starting to realize that Eustace was not the same kid as he had been the previous year. I think they were dumb, but not that dumb. Probably late '42, but maybe early '43 at the outside. So Eustace and Jill would be six years older by then.

What really complicates it is the Earth years vs. Narnian years for all of this:
Magician's Nephew: EY 1900, NY 0 (Creation)
Lion, Witch...: EY 1940, NY 1000
Horse and his Boy: EY 1940, NY 1014
Prince Caspian: EY 1941, NY 2200 (approx.)
Dawn Treader: EY 1942, NY 2203
Silver Chair: EY 1942 or 43, NY 2273
Last Battle: EY 1949, NY 2555 (Armageddon)

[Crimson]

LOL must have took you a long time to write that....but MN comes be4 LWW but sometimes lWW comes be4 MN and but MN then LWW makes more sense becuz if LWW was 1st then narnia would just be there but in MN it shows how narnia was created and how the lamp post got there

[mejonny]

MN is more interesting after you've read the first 5 books.

[QueenSusanofNarnia]

Actually, according to the semi-official timeline, "The Last Battle" takes place in 1949, and LWW in 1940. Figure that PC was in '41, and VDT was in '42. Also, Chair would have to be set less than a year after VDT: Eustace was just back at school, and the bullying scum at Experiment House were just starting to realize that Eustace was not the same kid as he had been the previous year. I think they were dumb, but not that dumb. Probably late '42, but maybe early '43 at the outside. So Eustace and Jill would be six years older by then.

What really complicates it is the Earth years vs. Narnian years for all of this:
Magician's Nephew: EY 1900, NY 0 (Creation)
Lion, Witch...: EY 1940, NY 1000
Horse and his Boy: EY 1940, NY 1014
Prince Caspian: EY 1941, NY 2200 (approx.)
Dawn Treader: EY 1942, NY 2203
Silver Chair: EY 1942 or 43, NY 2273
Last Battle: EY 1949, NY 2555 (Armageddon)


thought this out, have you?

[jonathanruiz209]

still hope theydo ALL seven though doesnt matter what order to me just as long as all of them are done, better not end up like the BBC..

[Someonebeatmetowunderkind]

I am sure they can do The wood between the worlds any time, but what about A horse and his boy? It was one of my favorites!

[echoscot]

LOL must have took you a long time to write that....but MN comes be4 LWW but sometimes lWW comes be4 MN and but MN then LWW makes more sense becuz if LWW was 1st then narnia would just be there but in MN it shows how narnia was created and how the lamp post got there

Obviously you're new to Narnia. The original publishing order was QUITE different. Only fairly recently did they switch it up. It is a perfectly acceptable order, but the theming and development of character and story are approached on a new scale. In LWW first you, like the children make the voyage of discovery. It allows you to see Narnia and experience it like they did. The little dedication in the new editions is a promotion by Lewis Godson. I, for one, have read them both ways many, many times. I find I like the original order much better. Many aesthetic and personal reasons and many traditional ones. The Magician's Nephew is written as back story in a fashion of "So that's how that was got there, and that's how that got there..." and Lewis agreed to his publishers suggested dates of the last 4 books. With MN just before the LB it creates and Alpha/Omega kind of feel. Makes a bookend set so to speak. Also, HHB is a very different kind of tale. As a matter of fact, in one of the others, I forget which, Lewis actually references his idea for the story and says "If I ever get the whole story (or perhaps the time) I shall tell you that tale as well." That is a paraphrase and if someone could find the exact qoute, it would be a help. I don't have my copies here. It occurs in one of the 3 PC, VDT or SC. I believe it is SC where that reference is made. Once again the allusion to further discovery.

Okay I have already written a treatise on this which most of you will skip over. I would love some feedback on this whatever you think.

[Jamie]

I think they're only gonna make PC, VDT & SC like the BBC did.

[~Queen Lucy The Valiant~]

what is the LWW? I've been hearing it a lot but not sure what it is

[SakuraJapan66]

What do u mean? :confused:

[SacredSpirit]

Is it because thats the next book in line that has all of the children in it. Also, that Last Battle does too

[*moseley*princess*]

what is the LWW? I've been hearing it a lot but not sure what it is

LWW means The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

I believe it is SC where that reference is made. Once again the allusion to further discovery.

You're correct, it's the Silver Chair. It takes place before Jill and Eustace set out to find the lost prince.

"And when all the serious eating and drinking was over, a blind poet came forward and struck up the grand old tale of Prince Cor and Aravis and the horse Bree, which is called The Horse and His Boy and tells of an adventure that happened in Narnia and Calormen and the lands between..." etc etc.

[echoscot]

You're correct, it's the Silver Chair. It takes place before Jill and Eustace set out to find the lost prince.

"And when all the serious eating and drinking was over, a blind poet came forward and struck up the grand old tale of Prince Cor and Aravis and the horse Bree, which is called The Horse and His Boy and tells of an adventure that happened in Narnia and Calormen and the lands between..." etc etc.

Thank you for finding that. I knew it was in one of those.

Scot

[Valkyrie]

I believe that LWW was correct in being the first movie. Princes Caspian makes sense because it takes place a mere one year earth time later. This also stresses the concept of the time differences between here and Narnia and makes it all the more clearer. I'm not sure what they shall do with MN and THAHB because MN takes place before LWW whilst THAHB takes place during LWW. This will lead to confusion if they do not recap the crowning of the Pevensies at the beginning of THAHB, following with the end of LWW at the end of THAHB. Of course, by confusion I mean the children and people too naive to understand the time lapse. LB should certainly be last..

[Narnia Man 2006]

OK--Alot of people are wondering why Prince Caspian is the next film. I just figured this out this morning when I was getting ready to go see LWW for the second time.

LWW takes place one Earth year before Prince Caspian--Each of the Pevensies are one year older. If they did HBB next, then they'd be alot older--Peter {William Moseley} would probably be near 20 {he's 17}. They need each of the kids to be one year (closley more or less) older. So, Prince Caspian is next. After that, it will be Voyage of the Dawn Treader becuase Lucy and Edmund are supposed to be one year older. After that, The Silver Chair, because Eustace needs to be only one year older. Then, The Last Battle, because Eustace and Jill need to bee only one year older, and Lucy, Peter and Edmund need to be 3 years older than they were in LWW. The last movie--I think--they are going to film is the Magicians Nephew, just after HBB.

Yours truly


I can't wait until Narnia becomes a series. I really want to see "TMN" because it gets ignored a lot. (TMN is my favorite of the series).

[stronger_WM]

I'm really sad that C.S Lewis only included the characters Peter and Susan in two of the books. I first thought that they would be in all of them, like most main characters. I mean, I'm glad that Lucy and Edmund are at least in VDT but I'm still sad P or S aren't.

But however i CANNOT wait until 2007 when PC comes out.

[Jamie]

I'm really sad that C.S Lewis only included the characters Peter and Susan in two of the books. I first thought that they would be in all of them, like most main characters. I mean, I'm glad that Lucy and Edmund are at least in VDT but I'm still sad P or S aren't.

But however i CANNOT wait until 2007 when PC comes out.

Peter is in 3 of the books

[waterhogboy]

He's in 4 actually - LWW, PC, HHB and LB

[Malacandra]

He's in 4 actually - LWW, PC, HHB and LB

And he'd be ::wet finger in air:: about the same age in both of the last two - in HHB when he had attained young adulthood in Narnia, and LB where he'd got there in English time. (In the True Narnia everyone seems to wind up as a young-to-mature adult - most dramatically in the case of Polly and Digory, who were certainly of pensionable age by then.)

[echoscot]

Perhaps he could help give us insight, you think Malacandra? Or are the Hnau on our world too bent to understand?

Scot

[JiCa]

OK--Alot of people are wondering why Prince Caspian is the next film. I just figured this out this morning when I was getting ready to go see LWW for the second time.

LWW takes place one Earth year before Prince Caspian--Each of the Pevensies are one year older. If they did HBB next, then they'd be alot older--Peter {William Moseley} would probably be near 20 {he's 17}. They need each of the kids to be one year (closley more or less) older. So, Prince Caspian is next. After that, it will be Voyage of the Dawn Treader becuase Lucy and Edmund are supposed to be one year older. After that, The Silver Chair, because Eustace needs to be only one year older. Then, The Last Battle, because Eustace and Jill need to bee only one year older, and Lucy, Peter and Edmund need to be 3 years older than they were in LWW. The last movie--I think--they are going to film is the Magicians Nephew, just after HBB.

Yours truly

Interesting........I (finally) know it! Thanks. Interesting! :rolleyes:

[Someonebeatmetowunderkind]

I was reading about the order of the books on another official, yet nowhere as cool of a website.

According to them, A horse and his Boy has been moved in the order, and now falls between PC and Dawn Treader. This means it will probably be the third movie.

LWW was made before Magician's Nephew, because it was written first. It was the most popular, and much more recognizable to the audience. The Magician's Nephew was written long after LWW. I suspect that it will be last, if it is made at all, because none of the LWW cast need to be present for it.

[Princey]

Ooh, clever! Thanks! I liked the Horse and his Boy too, but my fave was LWW. I really like the four Pevensies (well, maybe Ed not so much, but he's kind of ok)

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

My personal belief is that they should be made in the order that they were originally published by C.S.Lewis. That order is LLW, PC, VDT, SC, HHB, TMN, TLB. Maybe they should film two at a time at one point or something.

[Narnia Man 2006]

C.S Lewis would want you to read the order the books are labeled in.

[Princey]

Hmm I really don't mind the order they make them in as long as they don't totally suck.

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

C.S Lewis would want you to read the order the books are labeled in.


You obviously don't realize that the older editions of the books are LABELED in publishing order then. My books, which I've had for about 20 years, were purchased as a set...and they are numbered 1) Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe, 2) Prince Caspian, 3) Dawn Treader, 4) Silver Chair, 5) Horse and His Boy, 6) Magician's Nephew, and 7) Last Battle.

This debate gets old, there is no right or wrong way to read them...only a FAVORITE way to read them. There is no "correct" labeling either, it depends on when you bought them as to what order they're arranged in.

Narnia veterans are always going to prefer publishing order because that's how they read them.

[LadyofGreenKirtle]

I don't really consider myself a Narnian Vetran, and even I prefer the old order. I would rather read them in the order than Lewis wrote them, you know? Have them come into my imagination as they did Lewis'?
Maybe that's just me.

Also, I think a lot of the excitement of LWW is lost when you read MN first...

[petersgirl]

i'm soooo Exited for Eragon!

[QueenSusanofNarnia]

This is to everyone: If anyone posts something OTHER THAN WHAT ORDER THE FILMS SHOULD BE IN I'LL GET MAD.

Ok:

If HBB was filmed right after LWW, then the other kids (Will/Anna/Skandar/Georgie) will be too old :Will will be around 20! (he's 19 now..his b-day was yesterday...)
So, the order SHOULD BE:

LWW (already out of course!)
PC (being casted for)
VotDT
SC
LB
MN
HBB

[Lucy_QueenofNarnia]

actually, the Last Battle really shouldn't be after SC, because the Last Battle is supposed to take place approx. 9 yrs (according to Lewis's timeline) after the 4 Pevensies come out of the Wardrobe. if they want the actors to be 9-10 years older, they should probably wait for LB. (of course, it may take 9 years, at the rate these film makers are workin). and plus, PC, VDT, and SC are going to be filmed back to back to make sure there isnt a huge time gap (like there definitely will be between LWW and PC--since they havent even started filming PC yet).

Anyways, the order Walden Media is planning to do them in is already known.

[ABright5]

Ok, I dont think that Magician's Nephew will be last. I think that the movies will be filmed in the same order as the books were released. Honestly, I don't want to go see The LAST Battle knowing that there will be two more movies coming out. It's gonna turn out like freaking Star Wars Episode I if they do that. So i say Caspian, Voyage, Chair, Nephew, Horse, and Battle in that order.

I agree completely. The Last Battle should be the last one.

Although I would might put Nephew after Horse.