"As is tradition"

[elfjad]

Whilst watching LLW, I realised the White Witch said that Edmund "will die on the Stone Table as is tradition". I looked it up in the book but it wasn't there so I'm assuming it was just for the film - but this line suggests it has happened before. The stone table also seems to be a place of sacrifice in the book and the film so did sacrifices happen there before. What do you think?

[Señor Puntos]

Short answer:yes
Long answer:yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[EveningStar]

In my view on Narnia (in other words consistent with my stories) the King's religious counselors (the Royal Magi) were unwilling to give their blessing to Jadis and proclaim her the rightful Queen of Narnia, and as such the five of them were taken to the table and slain as traitors. The Five, as they are known, are represented as creatures dressed in black with hoods that walk behind another dressed in red in the Remembrance Day parade the evening before the Vernal Equinox. The next day, in a manner similar to Easter, the five dress in pure white and run down the main street of town at dawn shouting, "HE IS RISEN! BEHOLD THE GREAT LION LIVES!"

That kicks off a day of celebration and feasting.

[Señor Puntos]

In my view on Narnia (in other words consistent with my stories) the King's religious counselors (the Royal Magi) were unwilling to give their blessing to Jadis and proclaim her the rightful Queen of Narnia, and as such the five of them were taken to the table and slain as traitors. The Five, as they are known, are represented as creatures dressed in black with hoods that walk behind another dressed in red in the Remembrance Day parade the evening before the Vernal Equinox. The next day, in a manner similar to Easter, the five dress in pure white and run down the main street of town at dawn shouting, "HE IS RISEN! BEHOLD THE GREAT LION LIVES!"

That kicks off a day of celebration and feasting.

Where'd you get that from? I don't remember that in any of the books.

[EveningStar]

In my view on Narnia (in other words consistent with my stories)

They are in MY stories. MINE MINE MINE!!! :D

[Queen Swanwhite]

They're very good, Chakal! I've read them.

Answering your question, maybe some people have been sacrificed on the stone table, before LWW and after MN. Just maybe... ;)

[EveningStar]

Again, this is from my stuffies. If you look on royalmagi.org at "The Stone Table" you'll see references to my "history" of where the table came from and how it was used, even speculations as to the meaning of the inscriptions.

[Queen Swanwhite]

Again, this is from my stuffies. If you look on royalmagi.org at "The Stone Table" you'll see references to my "history" of where the table came from and how it was used, even speculations as to the meaning of the inscriptions.

It's very well done. ;) :D

[EveningStar]

Hehe, I have done state related stuff for so long that I have the hang of making "National Trust of Narnia" pages that look authentic.

It would be really funny to make a Caspian X webpage that looks like the Juan Carlos official site or HRM Elizabeth II site with links to his ministries. None of them would work though... :D

[LadyEm]

LOL Oh Chakal that would be funny! (and cool!)
I've checked out your site...it was very "informative" into the mysteries of Narnian histories! ;) Good job. I think a Caspian X page would be *quite* amusing.

[onlymystory]

As far as the stone table goes, (chakal your stuff is great but in case she doesn't want to read through it) I think the idea of sacrifice comes from previous traitors. I would guess that traitors were to be put to death and in Narnia the manner of execution to be used is to kill them at the stone table.

[Malacandra]

Hehe, I have done state related stuff for so long that I have the hang of making "National Trust of Narnia" pages that look authentic.

It would be really funny to make a Caspian X webpage that looks like the Juan Carlos official site or HRM Elizabeth II site with links to his ministries. None of them would work though... :D

That's "HM the Queen Elizabeth II", m'friend. And ministries are just like that the world(s) over.

[inkspot]

I don't have my copy of LWW with me, but doesn't Mr. Beaver say the White Witch was Aslan's hangman, that's how she came to style ehrself queen? As if in some distant past maybe she was the Grim Reaper for Narnia, but wasn't content with this role? That doesn't square at all with MN, of course ...

[EveningStar]

Ah so that's why she's hanging around. But when Aslan returned, she was at the end of her rope. This real swinger got a suspended sentence....

I think it's not so much that she was his hangman (i.e. payroll...by the hour or by the head) but that he permitted anyone that was a traitor to slip out from under his protection and thus they became her fair game.

[waterhogboy]

That's "HM the Queen Elizabeth II", m'friend. And ministries are just like that the world(s) over.

Actually its HRH Queen Elizabeth II

[Malacandra]

Actually its HRH Queen Elizabeth II

Nope, the Queen is "Her Majesty", a more exalted form of address than a mere "Her Royal Highness". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II_of_the_United_Kingdom#Titles) She was an HRH when she was still a Princess. Please try not to give misleading information to the Americans. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_of_the_British_Sovereign) ;)

[devils_advocate_for_evil]

If we think about though, the suggestion that it was for the movie's purposes is also a good--and valid one. It does make the scene sound more dramatic and gives Jadis more reason to kill Edmund. It does, all in all, make sense that it could be there for the movie. It doesn't have to be, but I think that should be collaborated on a bit too perhaps (?)

[EveningStar]

It was clearly enunciated in the scene where the White Witch decided to tie Edmund to a tree and execute him on the spot that IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO DO THIS AT THE PROPER SPOT.

Ok, so why is the Stone Table the proper spot?

The agreement written in letters on the side of the Stone Table was the Law of Justice under which Jadis considered Edmund her "rightful" prey, something she would never have said to the Son of God in an attempt to insult his intelligence unless she knew it was SO. The table cracked when Aslan was killed there because the Law of Justice was supplanted by the Law of Mercy.

[devils_advocate_for_evil]

Ok, there we go! Thanks Chakal!