Star Trek v. Star Wars [Archive] - The Dancing Lawn

Daughter of Eve

01-14-2005, 12:27 PM

Which is better? Why? And do notice I wrote the title in court case style.... ;)

Personally, I say Trek. Trekkies rule! I like SW, so don't blast me there... I can use a lightsaber... but I prefer Trek to SW. It's hard to say actually. 'Course, CoN beats both, and they only barely beat LotR... please, don't hurt me Ara....

Why? Well, Trek I think you can relate to more, and SW doesn't have the Enterprise, nor Spock, nor Kirk, nor Bones, nor Scotty. That's a start. :D

~~Alessandra

Dragon

01-14-2005, 05:05 PM

StarGATE. All the way.

course if I had to choose either ST or SW I'd choose SW. There's definitely things done better in ST, but I've grown up with SW and not with ST so that's a factor I guess. There are lots more factors, but in keeping this really short (I don't feel like going deep into my reasons yet), I'd say I enjoy watching SW better than Trek.

...and Stargate better than either.

rosymole

01-15-2005, 10:17 AM

StarGate- nooooo- i was subjected to hours of torture at uni and can no longer cope watching it, MacGyver on the other hand...
StarTrek- always induces sleep- Sunday afternoon, pop the telly on- oh there they are, zzzzzzz (or maybe it was just the one with Jayneway in?)
StarWars- HOORAY! My best friend looks, and behaves like an Ewok, R2D2 is a legend, and if I was 30 years older I'd be married to Harrison Ford! Der der, de de de, der der (it's the music donchyakno?)

crjr9833

01-15-2005, 12:00 PM

Don't you dare insult the Lord of the Rings! It beats all those space movies and shows 100 to 0.001

rosymole

01-15-2005, 01:45 PM

you're spot on there crjr- LotR rules over everything, and quite rightly so

Dragon

01-15-2005, 02:54 PM

true, LotR is definitely better in technical aspects, has better acting and better dialogue, but for this discussion, we are talking about "those space movies and shows." Yes, LotR is better made, but it seems wrong to say that it beats SW and ST especially since it's a different genre of film. Remember, if it weren't for the significant advancements in film brought to us through Star Wars, we probably wouldn't have LotR as films, at least not yet or at least not as good. And from what I hear, Star Wars producer Rick McCallum (of eps. I and II) was very helpful to Peter Jackson in the making of LotR. There is no "competition" between the two.

And a side thing I might mention: as good as it is, I'm not going to sit down and just watch LotR through just any given evening. I don't have that kind of time. What's nice about something like stargate is that it's just a quick 40-minute show and is easy to watch at any time. (for reference, one of those shows is nearly the same length as from the time the ring falls into Mt. Doom to the time the end credits begin scrolling.)

And as for Starwars, I actually like the computer games that come from them much better than the movies themselves, but I'll still watch them over Startrek. Not that Startrek is worse; like I said, I just never could get into the show or the movies. Just my personal taste, I guess.

jennyjenjen56

01-16-2005, 03:34 AM

Star wars! I've never been able to get into star trek. And lotr is different than star wars. Its really hard to compair the two. But overall lotr is better as in acting and stuff. I can't really pick between the two. But definatly star wars over star trek.! :)

rosymole

01-16-2005, 07:27 AM

Yay jenny - you know the truth!

In a Stable

01-16-2005, 02:05 PM

Well, it doesn't seem like the very popular thing at the moment, but heck, I'm not the "go with the flow" kind of girl. I'm just gonna be bold and embarass myself here by saying...

I Vote Star Trek! :D

tgraveline

01-17-2005, 05:14 PM

well lets put it this way now shall we. Star Trek is fine i guess if you love terrible acting, ugly props, and every alien has the form of a human biped body. Me i like STARWARS much more cause i have a variety of characters, and i'm gonna bring in the books too. the extended universe is pimpin. And you cannot beat down Han Solo. Hes just too kickin for star trek. I mean look at the uniforms on trek, those are just hideous. Starwars has a rugidness that works.

Now for LOTR thats fantasy, sorry but there are fantasy series i like more than it myself actually, but it started it all mostly. So it gets its props, but it really should not be in this, as its not in the title, so ha.

tg

Dragon

01-17-2005, 05:35 PM

oh, if I may add a few quick reasons why Stargate is better than Star Trek ans star wars:

In startrek, you have the borg. In stargate, you have the replicators, which in my opinion can be pretty dang freaky. Plus, with the new Repli-Carter introduced in Season 8, it gets really personal.

In startrek, you have phasers. In stargate, you have zatn'ketels.

In startrek, you're countless years into the future. In starwars, you're countless years into the past. Stargate is now. (how many times has Picard or Han Solo made a reference to the Simpsons?)

In startrek and starwars, you have to fly to other planets. In stargate, you can just walk there. (and it is much cooler than warp, hpyerdrive, or whatever they use in startrek) Of course, in stargate, you can also go to hyperspace in the Prometheus, which is itself much cooler than the Enterprise or the Falcon.

In starwars, you have JarJar. In stargate, you got Thor.

Daughter of Eve

01-17-2005, 05:40 PM

STABLE!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!

Go TREK!!!!!!! I like it. I've been raised a Trekkie. I was raised on SW too. But I love Trek even more.

Never seen Stargate. Trek does not have creatures like JarJar or Threepio. Trek has a variety of people. They are exploring, they are seeking out, and you really get a ton of character development. Take Tom Paris for instance, and look at him at the beginning of Voyager, and at the end. It's really neat.

Dragon

01-17-2005, 07:51 PM

that's true, Evie. That's a good thing about long running tv shows that movies can't do as well: the character changes. I guess I should back up. I don't hate startrek at all. It's just not my cup o' tea. I actually don't know too much about trek, and so I can't really say much against it. Never got into it. That last post was just a little bit of fun.

It's strange, I like stargate the most, and starwars 2nd, and startrek least, but I think that stargate is probably much closer to startrek as far as the way it's made and played out. Probably if I spent time and watched startrek from the beginning, I might like it more than starwars. I just don't feel like going through so many seasons of the originals then the spinoffs, etc. I've seen a few, plus all the recent trek movies, and the characters didn't seem like ones that I would love to follow for several years of shows. The movies satisfy my trek intake desire. Of course, if I watched the shows as they came out, it might be different. 'course, with stargate I joined in on the 6th season, got sucked in, and had to get caught up (by buying all the sets 1through7) and now I'm enjoying season 8 and Atlantis.

Dragon

01-17-2005, 11:15 PM

well, with Star Wars, you can do THIS!
http://www.geocities.com/dragon_fafnir/jedi.jpg
It's just not as fun with Startrek. Hm, I'll have to do some Stargate pics...

tgraveline

01-17-2005, 11:47 PM

lol, i never did that myself, though i can do stuff like that with an enlarger if i get back into it cause i've done it before, lol.

tg

PS i want to live in the starwars universe

rosymole

01-18-2005, 07:15 AM

Hehe, that's great Drag- I'm gonna giggle everytime I think about it-the look of concentration on your face!

tgraveline

01-18-2005, 07:54 PM

I have a feeling thats how he always looks, lol. Just mystified by his surroundings

tg

Ithilien

01-22-2005, 06:38 PM

star wars is undisputedly superior to star trek. Though I enjoy both, star trek doesn't have the same fufillment Star wars offers. Star wars has so much more depth and excitement!

tgraveline

01-29-2005, 03:31 PM

hey, has anyone picked up the new timothy zahn book or the labrynth of evil book? I'm curious cause i know the zahn one will be sweetness, but the other one is kind of more info on how anakin goes evil and all, so that could be cool. I've read only a few of the prequel age books, some are pretty cool.

tg

mauly

01-29-2005, 04:01 PM

PS i want to live in the starwars universe

^^ ditto that :D star wars fo life ;)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/69de/
i'm getting the Vader lightsabor next month.

Ithilien

01-29-2005, 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=mauly]^^ ditto that :D star wars fo life ;)
QUOTE]
me too...sigh...if only...

Ithilien

05-14-2005, 06:43 PM

just curiosity directed to all Trekkies out there. I was watching the last episode (the finale!) yesterday of Star Wars and must admit I didn't quite get it (I just started watching the series again recently). Did Commander Tucker really die? And was the last episode about how the Captain made a speech to form the federation? Another episode followed (about borgs) but it hardly felt like the finale. What is going on?

holyboy

05-14-2005, 06:54 PM

just because this is probably the best place to say this...

STAR TREK ENTERPRISE ENDED YESTERDAY!!!! IT'LL B THE FIRST TIME IN 12 YEARS WHERE STAR TREK ISN'T ON TV

*crying*

stupid fox and wanting a better demographic :mad:

inkspot

05-16-2005, 03:10 PM

Of all the Star Trek I have watched, I didn't get into Enterprise, so I cannot offer you an explanation of the final episode.

And I know the debate in this thread is kind of dated, but let me defend my beloved Star Trek. Trek is superior to Star Wars in my mind because:

1. It's the original and has been around for years in all different incarnations: TV, movies, books. And the books are way cool! They go off after different characters, it's great.

2. Because it was on TV for so many years, as previously noted, the characters could develop and change over time, which was very cool.

3. Whereas Star Wars is all the story of one family and one -- story -- Star Trek followed a whole bunch of different characters in different situations, and branched out in so many cool ways.

4. I admit it ... grew up with it! I was a baby when the Original Star Trek was on TV, but I grew up with re-runs, and then the Next Generation and so on, so I have to love it.

Nothing against Star Wars, cuz I love that, too. Episode One was just on TV and I watched it all over again ... baby Darth Vader ... so sad ...

Smog

05-16-2005, 06:32 PM

Alright! Another Star Trek fan!

I like Star Wars, but there are just too many contradictions in the mythology (if you can even call it that). If Lucas could just get his stories straight and make them consistent, I think that Star Wars would rule, but sadly, each movie discredits the movie that came before it.

legolas

07-01-2005, 04:22 PM

(this is an old thread i beileve, but I'm bringing it back :D) Well, I like the 3rd Star Wars movie alot... but i'm not up for either much...

rosymole

07-01-2005, 08:09 PM

well Legolas we respect your ppinion but seeing as you can't commit to either you must be sent away..Only Joking my love! Fair enough. If you'd asked me about 10 yrs ago which i preferd I would've given you a blank look and walked off, but times and tastes change..appreciatre your stand! lol

legolas

07-01-2005, 09:01 PM

well Legolas we respect your opinion but seeing as you can't commit to either you must be sent away..Only Joking my love! Fair enough. If you'd asked me about 10 yrs ago which i preferd I would've given you a blank look and walked off, but times and tastes change..appreciatre your stand! lol

LOL! Well, i must say, "please please please don't ban me" *crying and begging at rosy's feet* jk. Your rank i see has been changed to "Darth Rosy". Thats great!! :D

Mudpuddle

07-02-2005, 03:12 AM

Star Trek over Star Wars anyday. I liked the StarGate movie over any of the Star War ones as well.

rosymole

07-02-2005, 08:25 AM

LOL! Well, i must say, "please please please don't ban me" *crying and begging at rosy's feet* jk. Your rank i see has been changed to "Darth Rosy". Thats great!! :D

All credit to Inkspot for giving me the idea! I shan't be turning to the dark side really- despite how fun it looks!

waterhogboy

07-02-2005, 09:49 AM

I'm more into Star Wars, but I'm not really into either......... :(

Narnian Jedi

07-02-2005, 11:59 AM

Star Wars for me! The entire SW universe: books, comics and all the movies. You may find this hard to believe, but the more I read the clone war/prequel books and watch the movies, I'm prefering the PT over OT).

I never quite got into the Star Trek world. It just didn't appeal to me.

legolas

07-02-2005, 02:14 PM

All credit to Inkspot for giving me the idea! I shan't be turning to the dark side really- despite how fun it looks!

I guess thats a good thing!! :) :o

Ithilien

07-02-2005, 06:08 PM

I'm so upset, missing Star Trek last night for a dismal Canada Day fireworks display. I must admit, the more I watch Star Trek, the more I'm becoming obsessed! My loyalty to Star Wars is dwindling!

Speaking of Star Wars, Narnian Jedi you're not the only one into Star Wars literature! I used to love the Jedi Apprentice Series!

legolas

07-02-2005, 06:30 PM

you sound like my brother. except her is equally obbsessed with both!! ;)

Ithilien

07-02-2005, 07:56 PM

I'm reaching that stage, and I must admit, it isn't good.

legolas

07-02-2005, 08:39 PM

LOL!!! Have fun with that. ;)

Tarkheena_Finduilas22

07-04-2005, 08:30 AM

Star Wars is DONE so now we should all be into Star Wars. I only liked the Next Generation though.

GGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR! Our cat is going to drive me CRAZY! :eek:

Narnian Jedi

07-04-2005, 08:53 AM

Star Wars is DONE so now we should all be into Star Wars. I only liked the Next Generation...

Star Wars will never be done while the Expanded Universe still thrives...;) With the books, it doesn't have to end at Ep III.

Dragon

07-04-2005, 09:48 PM

Don't forget about the live-action tv series coming soon

Narnian Jedi

07-04-2005, 10:02 PM

Don't forget about the live-action tv series coming soon

Oh that's right! How could I forget?...oh and the 'rumored' 30th SW Anniversary in 2007 (either in Vegas or San Diego).

Jene Sai

07-20-2005, 10:53 PM

Let us all morn the loss of James Doohan "Scotty"...he has been beemed-up (or down *gulp*) for the very last time...We will miss you Scotty.

-JS

GrayCloak

07-21-2005, 12:54 AM

Let us all morn the loss of James Doohan "Scotty"...he has been beemed-up (or down *gulp*) for the very last time...We will miss you Scotty.

-JS

Goodbye Scotty...

Did anyone else know that he was a war hero? He was wounded 6 times by gunfire. He actually lost a a chunk of one of his fingers from a bullet - he always went to great pains to hide it when he acted. As I understand it, he was a real hero (not just another Hollywood fake) - Mr. Doohan will be missed...:(

holyboy

07-21-2005, 12:59 AM

Did you guys know he was Canadian? He was from Vancouver

I will surly miss him... :(

Smog

07-21-2005, 01:35 AM

I think that He was in the Canadian Gaurd (3rd Lieutenant, if I remember...), he was one of the first men to land on Juno beach at Normandy, France, on June 6, 1944...

We will miss you Mr. Doohan...

inkspot

07-21-2005, 05:00 PM

I think that He was in the Canadian Gaurd (3rd Lieutenant, if I remember...), he was one of the first men to land on Juno beach at Normandy, France, on June 6, 1944...
Wow, I'm a huge Trek fan, and I did not know that. Bless his heart. We will miss you, Scotty!

Narnian Jedi

07-21-2005, 05:28 PM

I'm not a Star Trek fan but his character is iconic in the SciFi-world. This is so sad.

Gondor Knight of Narnia

05-04-2007, 02:05 AM

Which is better? Why? And do notice I wrote the title in court case style....

Personally, I say Trek. Trekkies rule! I like SW, so don't blast me there... I can use a lightsaber... but I prefer Trek to SW. It's hard to say actually. 'Course, CoN beats both, and they only barely beat LotR... please, don't hurt me Ara....

Why? Well, Trek I think you can relate to more, and SW doesn't have the Enterprise, nor Spock, nor Kirk, nor Bones, nor Scotty. That's a start.

~~Alessandra

*GASP!!* *Beans Daughter of Eve w/ coconut gun*:p How DARE you like them better than LotR!!:D

Pheh...Star Trek's boring compared to Star Wars...I like Star Trek, but they need waaaaayyy more action. I've never seen an army of clones storm a desert planet and scare the snot out of an Osama-bin-Laden bug villain.:p

Star Trek does have snazzy ships...but a Star Destroyer is much more menacing than a whimpy lil Sovereign-class ship...besides, you can ram into a borg cube with little to no damage:p

Star Trek focuses more on the individual characters, more...uh...what's the word? Humanistic than Star Wars? Star Wars does indeed have good character setup but focuses more on an intertwining plot...I like that better

Aravis Kenobi

05-04-2007, 09:11 AM

Jewel09

05-04-2007, 09:41 AM

I like Star Trek: TOS but I also like SW.

KathrynJanewayChakotay

05-04-2007, 08:54 PM

I like them both

Star trek to me is somewat better cause it focuses alot on the people and the issues that would effect the charcters Whover knocked Voyager shame on you to me it is the best next to the TOS TNG was good I liked picard always a thinking captain But I am not taking SW out of the eqautaions either I guess I am a odd anmoly l like both

Sw Defintiy has cool ships and more deep intrwining stroes I cannot say either one i like more the the other They both have there perks and there downfalls but my case is neuatral I like both

inkspot

05-07-2007, 05:01 PM

The SW movies are in general better than the ST movies, except perhaps for "Star Trek II: Wrath of Kahn," which is one of my faves ... but like Skylasue, I find myself more involved in the people of Star Trek. I definitely prefer it, although I love SW too.

Darth Sparhawk

05-11-2007, 03:24 AM

I prefer Star Wras definetly. Star Trek looks very cheap to me.:p

inkspot

05-11-2007, 11:35 AM

I prefer Star Wras definetly. Star Trek looks very cheap to me.:p
It was cheap -- TOS (The Original Star Trek) was made for TV in the 1960's, so it was cheap, cheap, cheap. But what's cool about Star Trek is the themes, people and concepts. So even if the effects are nowhere near SW, the ideas are every bit as engaging.