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MTMFan
02-04-2006, 11:39 PM
I just finished reading Silver Chair today, and I'm confused by something. Prince Rilian killed the snake which was really the White Witch. OK. But I thought in Magician's Nephew, Aslan said that she couldn't be killed. Is this a mistake of Lewis' or am I just missing something? (I know MN was published much later, but he should've known what he'd already written!)

Kristen

DeplorableWord
02-05-2006, 12:15 AM
Not to be mean but- you're missing something! :) Something that is commonly missunderstood which shouldn't be is this- The Lady of the Green Kirtle, The Emerald Witch, or whatever you want to call her, IS NOT the White Witch- the White Witch died when Aslan killed her- final! The Emerald Witch is, I believe, a descendant from the White Witch.

By the way, welcome to the forum, I havn't seen you post before! I hope you really enjoy it! Hope to see you around!

Giselle the Ethereal
02-05-2006, 12:16 AM
Well, it didn't really mention that the Snake is the White Witch. They're related and of the same kind but it isn't the White Witch.

CSLewisFan
02-05-2006, 01:13 AM
Well, it didn't really mention that the Snake is the White Witch. They're related and of the same kind but it isn't the White Witch.

There has been talk about The Lady of the Green Kirtle being related to Jadis, the White Witch, but they are definitely not the same person.

-Austin

Srob
02-05-2006, 05:00 PM
If u have the newer books out by Walden, they mistakenly put at the beginning of the book at the Cast of Characters that the White Witch and the Lady of the Green Kirtle are the same. SORRY that they are dumb and don't know. Not your fault.

BUT, it is also my belief that she is a descendant.

MTMFan
02-06-2006, 01:48 AM
Thanks for the explanation! At least I'm not the only one making this mistake, lol. I was beginning to think this was an error on Lewis' part. I still think it could've been more clearly stated in the book, though.

she-elfwarrior19
02-06-2006, 10:04 AM
I just finished reading Silver Chair today, and I'm confused by something. Prince Rilian killed the snake which was really the White Witch. OK. But I thought in Magician's Nephew, Aslan said that she couldn't be killed. Is this a mistake of Lewis' or am I just missing something? (I know MN was published much later, but he should've known what he'd already written!)

Kristen

Its not the white witch that he killed it was the emerald witch. People get confused with that sometimes, which is ok i understand fully why they think its really the WW.

lions mane
02-07-2006, 12:39 AM
you guys, what series are u guys reading? :confused:

not to be rude but, i'm pretty sure that it states somwhere that they are the same person. and aslan didn't kill her, she just dissapeared or something(i can't explain) and went into hidding (till the right time) and i know that sounds really weird, but this is what i beleive!
and i beleive that they are the same person, and if i'm wrong can u guys please post where it says they are not.

Malacandra
02-07-2006, 09:31 AM
I just reread the entire series. Aslan killed the White Witch. She was later stated to be dead by some shady characters in "Prince Caspian" who were planning some piece of necromancy best not gone into. The green witch in "The Silver Chair" is believed to be another of the same breed, though no-one's all that clear on the Witch's origins in the first place. She doesn't display any of the previous Witch's attributes, but has magic that clouds the mind - no perpetual winters, no turning creatures into stone - and the ability to turn into a snake. Also, she isn't seven feet tall.

If you still persist in believing they're the same, l_m, I should advise you that I am a fat bearded man who sometimes wears a red coat, so by your logic, you'd have to believe I am Father Christmas. :D

PrinceOfTheWest
02-07-2006, 09:50 AM
lions_mane, we're reading the same series as you - we're just reading more carefully. Malacandra is right: there's no indication in the books that the two are the same, and they even exhibit different characteristics. The closest connection between them is found in an offhand reference at the end of Silver Chair which is referenced here (http://www.narniafans.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10740&postcount=6), and a comment made at the Parliment of Owls earlier in the book.

Your confusion may arise from a comment made in a cover blurb in one of the paperback versions of the Chronicles, where some dense editor made the comment that Jadis "shows up again" in Silver Chair. This has caused a heck of a lot of confusion, but it's wrong, and clearly the person who wrote it never studied the series.

lions_mane, you can and will believe what you wish. But if you're going to contend that Lewis intended the two witches to be the same person, then the burden lies on you to find the proof of that in the books themselves. Here's a hint from a lifetime student: you won't find it.

btw, Malacandra, love the signature text! Great username, too - did you check out the threads regarding the Interplanetary Trilogy?