Let's Pray for the U.S.A.

[Rohan Princess]

I know not all of you are from America, but you are welcome to pray also.

I think we need to pray for our country! With gatting the Ten Commandments removed, growing abortion support, homosexuals getting married, and our judicial branch of government desentigrating our counrty needs lots of prayer.

Would you please help my preserve this nation? For our Founding Fathers, our future generations, and our familes!!!

Thank you!

[NKSK2]

I know not all of you are from America, but you are welcome to pray also.

I think we need to pray for our country! With gatting the Ten Commandments removed, growing abortion support, homosexuals getting married, and our judicial branch of government desentigrating our counrty needs lots of prayer.

Would you please help my preserve this nation? For our Founding Fathers, our future generations, and our familes!!!

Thank you!
I agree! America is going to the dawgs unless we step up and do something! I'll pray for my country! and also there is this lady in California who beleives parents should be allowed to get an abortion until the kid is 1 year old! terrible...

[Between_the_Worlds]

and also there is this lady in California who beleives parents should be allowed to get an abortion until the kid is 1 year old! terrible...

That's a weird idea! If the kid is 1 year old, it's even more murderous. I am totally against abortion too. And I shall certainly pray for America! Even though it isn't my heart home, it's my nation and I certainly agree Rohan Princess's assessment of it's current status.

[Rohan Princess]

Thank ya'll very much. I wish i had more political stance i would overturn Roe v. Wade. (Hopefully I won't have to, if we get some good judges on the bench).

[NkandSKforever]

Thank ya'll very much. I wish i had more political stance i would overturn Roe v. Wade. (Hopefully I won't have to, if we get some good judges on the bench).
yeah. hopefully.

[TimmyofOz]

I pray for revival in America. And may God bless our President and our troops.

[rohan.girl]

amen to that, i'll be praying

[Rhyanidd]

Gad I agree with ya so much! I felt so helpless, then I read the thread and remembered (with a slap to my forehead) DUH I CAN PRAY!! thanks guys! I'll be prayin'!

[Rohan Princess]

I'm glad ya'll are willing to pray, it's so overwelming sometimes living here and watching it flush it-self down the toilet;if i may be politically in-correct

[♣Teh Deviant♣]

I pray for revival in America. And may God bless our President and our troops.

I agree with all my heart. I pray to that every night.
God bless.

Sofia

[king_phiilip]

i don't agree on abortion and the lady who wanted to abort a one year old is crazy give the kid a chance to prove themselves. Now if your kid turns like 16-25 yrs old and is a lazy bum thats always in trouble and is a druggie loser i don't mind aborting them when they get to that age but yeah anyways i'll be praying

[Maiden of the woods]

As you know I am not from America but from rainy england. lol. But I am willing to pray along with you peeps as support. Because nothing can beat the power of prayer. I would appreciate if you could pray for the situations over here to. Here is a example of prayer that has worked here in the UK just recently:

A while back there was a law that was going to be passed concerning basically all religions even christianity. This law would make talking out in public, about god pratically illegal! But for christian protesting and praying has made a big differnce. And it was on the news yesterday and in the papers to that this religious hatred law will not be passed. Great news huh? So there is a bit of encouragement for many christians to what god can do.

[killer_dwarf]

yeh guys I will surely be praying. I come from England too, and heard about that law, maiden_of_the_woods but I didn't know it wasn't happening - PTL!

[Rohan Princess]

Hey, yes I will pray for England also. I know that it is becoming less Christian, too.

[EveningStar]

I think what we need to do is pray for our world.

People forget all too quickly that freedom is not the ability to do more stuff but rather to take responsibility for one's own mistakes and credit for one's own successes.

Democracy in its original form was to make your own mistakes and claim your own successes rather than someone else's. I think about what E. B. White said once about how that was being abused. "Democracy is the suspicion that more than half the people are right more than half the time."

That's actually not democracy, that's mob rule. But we have come to define it as democracy over the years, forgetting that in our day of instant communications and instant gratification, the old cooling-off periods that made people more moderate in their approach are wearing thin and people make rash decisions in the heat of passion. Too often it's the sign carriers that get their way, not the large nameless masses that do the majority of living and dying in the world and make and spend most of its resources. The silent masses are not as high profile, but Christ died every bit as much for them as he did the protestors and special interest blocs.

Now people feel entitled to escape the consequences of bad decisions by declaring them to be "problems" or "social diseases" and seeking compensation for them. When I was young, people who made mistakes apologized, changed, and repaired the damage they did. If everyone wasn't seeking someone to blame and someone else to bail them out, we'd be able to fix our own problems. We need to pray that people will take responsibility for their actions...good and bad...and seek the guidance of Almighty God that they will do more good than bad on the whole.

[Lookintoforever]

I totally agree w ya'll
the politics in the country sure ticks me off :mad: I know i need to pray but sometimes it is sooo hard to remember... and then bad laws get passed and we all remember to pray...

PRAY FOR AMERICA!

[Maiden of the woods]

Well two of the biggest problems in the UK are drink and sex. To many under aged pregnacies and too many divorces.

[QA48]

i don't agree on abortion and the lady who wanted to abort a one year old is crazy give the kid a chance to prove themselves. Now if your kid turns like 16-25 yrs old and is a lazy bum thats always in trouble and is a druggie loser i don't mind aborting them when they get to that age but yeah anyways i'll be praying

^LOL funny :D anyways.... I'm really surprise someone from this forum would put up a thread like that. *Claps* I hope everyday. My soul prays everyday for this country :(

[DeplorableWord]

I agree. America is going to hell in a handbasket. (For all of you who have heard the saying! :))

i don't agree on abortion and the lady who wanted to abort a one year old is crazy give the kid a chance to prove themselves. Now if your kid turns like 16-25 yrs old and is a lazy bum thats always in trouble and is a druggie loser i don't mind aborting them when they get to that age but yeah anyways i'll be praying

That is so mean. You do realize, that what you said is no different than saying that you want to murder a kid, right? After you said you will pray, then I believed that you're somewhat religious- correct me if I'm wrong. If you are, don't you think God has a plan for every person's life? We shouldn't interfere by killing beautiful human life just because someone is "a bum" like you said! Who knows- they could turn out to be the next Einstein of our time...

[QA48]

I agree. America is going to hell in a handbasket. (For all of you who have heard the saying! :))



That is so mean. You do realize, that what you said is no different than saying that you want to murder a kid, right? After you said you will pray, then I believed that you're somewhat religious- correct me if I'm wrong. If you are, don't you think God has a plan for every person's life? We shouldn't interfere by killing beautiful human life just because someone is "a bum" like you said! Who knows- they could turn out to be the next Einstein of our time...

She was obviously being sarcastic :rolleyes:

[Rohan Princess]

^LOL funny :D anyways.... I'm really surprise someone from this forum would put up a thread like that. *Claps* I hope everyday. My soul prays everyday for this country :(
Thank you!! i'm glad ya'll are willing to pray with me!!

[castel]

Well, i'm totally for the abortion so i obviously don't think than america can be damned for something like that, lol.

And the homosexual marriage don't bother me neither.........

I think some of you should open theirs minds and take a lesson of tolerance.

So, i will pray, yes........but i will pray for you.

God loves us, all of us.

[miss-moseley]

is something happining in USA since your praying?? :rolleyes:

[blackheart]

What kind of Sacrilige americans are,
How could they do such a thing,they are making ther own destruction and being slaves of the devil...
In times of need they quickly turn to God but in ordinary times like this they do nothing but turn to Sin...
They only turn to God when they are in need,

Unbelievable,

Killing Innocent defenceless lifeforms inside the mothers womb without letting this poor creatures experience life even Happiness.How could these Women do abortion
Those babies inside thier womb count on them,depend on them and trust them
how could they betray thier own babies trust by killing them...
So Unhuman!

Homosexual Marriage,Unhuman dont they follow the Law of God,
Dont americans follow The Pope?
He has condemmed this acts....

Sooner or Later America will be lost if they do not turn to thier ways....And Regret will overpower them knowing they are in midst of The Devil and not of God.

I will Pray for America....That They will Turn back to God and condem thier sins...
May Gods shining Light Overpower this Country and its people,May the Light of God reach to their hearts so they will go back and turn away from Sin

[miss-moseley]

wow.. that was a sad story.. i didnt know that the americans were SO bad people.. but isnt it normal to have an abortion if u dont want your baby?? off course i understand that an abortion isnt the best thing to do, but...

[blackheart]

No I do not agree that abortion is normal when you dont want your baby.
None of this would have happen if she was so carefully or waited for the perfect time to have a u-know-wat.
She must bore the child in her womb even she likes it or not!
Thats a consequence of what she did,
Women should know that if you dont want responsibility over babies or shall we say

"IF WOMEN DONT LIKE TO HAVE BABIES,THEN DONT MAKE THEM"

[castel]

About the abortion, i think you should read a book who maybe can give you a larger and wiser view : "the cider house rules" (John Irving)

A woman have the right to do what she wants with her life and body.

Who are you for telling her what she must do ?

[miss-moseley]

No I do not agree that abortion is normal when you dont want your baby.
None of this would have happen if she was so carefully or waited for the perfect time to have a u-know-wat.
She must bore the child in her womb even she likes it or not!
Thats a consequence of what she did,
Women should know that if you dont want responsibility over babies or shall we say

"IF WOMEN DONT LIKE TO HAVE BABIES,THEN DONT MAKE THEM"

okay... i agree that its wrong to sleep with another man without protection when u dont want a baby...

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Who are you for telling her what she must do ?Actually, it's God who's doing the telling. He's the one who says that every human life, no matter where it resides, has value. He's also the one that says that ever child has a birthright to an intact home as a permanent basis for his life.

[castel]

Actually, it's God who's doing the telling

Comm'on........you're living on this planet, in the real world, or what ?

Yeah, god says that........

And he says also : no kill, no rape, no steal, no lie.......etc........

But hey, big news !!

In the real world, this kind of things happened every day. ^^

Never, never the Bible must replace the law.

And the law says (in a plenty of countries around the world) : the abortion is legal, it's a woman's right.

[TimmyofOz]

Rights are things given to us by God. If God gives you a child how can it be your right to tear it up and flush is down the sink. Abortions is just legal in man eyes. Abortion, Homosexuality and disrespect toward those God has placed over us are the sins of America. And yes we need to pray. And pray for our President and our troops. :)

[SK21]

Many of people visiting this site are very religious, whether they are christian, Catholic, muslim, etc.... I cannot say whether i am an atheist or what. At times i have believed that there was a god but i am sorry i'm too much into science to believe religion.

However i usually just sit back through the just Pray thread and other such but i came on here and was a little horrified. United states is on of the greatest nations on earth, it is powerful, it probably has the biggest currency value and it is still only a young nation compared to many of the other nations of the world.
I am Bisexual which means i have a sexual attraction to both male and female and i find homophobic people are a site that i considered universally accepting. I am disgusted that you can say because America is accepting Homosexual marriage and abortion it is going to the dawgs.

I am no opinions of Abortion either way but i have strong feelings for homosexuality and i do not think what you have said on this thread is right. It is not all about religion, i understand that you have strong religious beliefs but America is probably one of the strongest and greatest nations on Earth and you should see that.

so respect the nations not look for it's so-called sins.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

And he says also : no kill, no rape, no steal, no lie.......etc........

But hey, big news !!

In the real world, this kind of things happened every day. ^^True - and because of what God says, they must be universally opposed, no matter how frequent and accepted they might be by a culture.

If I understand your argument correctly, you're contending that just because something is commonplace in a culture, it must be accepted? By that argument the Holocaust was all right, because it was accepted by the culture which perpetrated it, and slavery should be as well, since it is one of the most common institutions in human history.

You can't be saying that, can you?

[The Dancing Lawn]

Religion is a hard thing 2 stick by and no offence but I dont believe there r many people people in the world who's faiths have been challenged once in a while.

[miss-moseley]

Religion is a hard thing 2 stick by and no offence but I dont believe there r many people people in the world who's faiths have been challenged once in a while.

You are right about that one :o

[castel]

Abortion, Homosexuality and disrespect toward those God has placed over us are the sins of America

Ho man, i has never seen such intolerance et irrespect for the others before.

And you call yourself a christian ?

So yeah......you can go to the church the sunday morning.

You have a lot to learn about what to be a christian really means. (you remember ? compassion, love, forgiveness...etc.....)

And about the life too.

[Rohan Princess]

Many of people visiting this site are very religious, whether they are christian, Catholic, muslim, etc.... I cannot say whether i am an atheist or what. At times i have believed that there was a god but i am sorry i'm too much into science to believe religion.

However i usually just sit back through the just Pray thread and other such but i came on here and was a little horrified. United states is on of the greatest nations on earth, it is powerful, it probably has the biggest currency value and it is still only a young nation compared to many of the other nations of the world.
I am Bisexual which means i have a sexual attraction to both male and female and i find homophobic people are a site that i considered universally accepting. I am disgusted that you can say because America is accepting Homosexual marriage and abortion it is going to the dawgs.

I am no opinions of Abortion either way but i have strong feelings for homosexuality and i do not think what you have said on this thread is right. It is not all about religion, i understand that you have strong religious beliefs but America is probably one of the strongest and greatest nations on Earth and you should see that.

so respect the nations not look for it's so-called sins.

Sorry i have not been on for ages and ages.
What do you mean you are too much into science to be into God?? just wondering.
Also, i have never met a bisexual so i don't know how you act but i do know that homosexuality is wrong. Yes America is strong and a great nation, but how long will it stay that way (the Bible says Proverbs 14:34 "Rightousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.").
About tolerence, yes we (as Christians) are called to love all people but not their ideas. we must try to direct and show them that they are wrong yet we are never to accept ideas that are in contradiction to the Bible.
I'm glad ya'll are discussing this, just remember to be courteous. thanks

[blackheart]

I am really very EAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRR to have a debate about this,
but sitting here debating about abortion and other stuff america does
will not solve anything,b4 that pls. bear in mind not only America do this thing but it also happens in other countries,Legal or not legal.

The best thing to do is Pray.....And let God decide thier fate...

Anywayz lastly :) (i know isaid i was little eager to debate so youll not mind if i let my fingers slip dont you?)
Really true God gave Us especially Women the RIGHT is it just right to abuse the right given to us?

[castel]

we must try to direct and show them that they are wrong yet we are never to accept ideas that are in contradiction to the Bible

It's very pretentious to say you have the right to tell them what is the best for them.

You think you know what is the best just because you're a christian ?

I doubt that.......

In the world, live a lot of good peoples, and many of them don't be christians.

Like in the world, live a lot of very bad peoples, and many of them are christians.

No religion must be imposed.

The free choice, the right to choose what is good for us.

That's the gift from god. ;)

[blackheart]

true but anyway
I really dont HAVE the power to tell people whats best for them i am just telling what i need to say.
We dont need to be christians to be good or bad...
I agree not all christians out there can be found in heaven...
Religion doesnt need to be imposed.
and our job is simple to decide on what is right and what is wrong,we dont need to be blnd about it...

[SK21]

I agree with Castel, we have the freedom to choose. such as the debate over Homosexuality. Right and Wrong are merely words, something is only right and wrong just because We say they are right and wrong.

'WHOEVER has an opinion of his own, and honestly expresses it, will be guilty of heresy. Heresy is what the minority believe; it is the name given by the powerful to the doctrine of the weak. This word was born of the hatred, arrogance and cruelty of those who love their enemies, and who, when smitten on one cheek, turn the other. This word was born of intellectual slavery in the feudal ages of thought. It was an epithet used in the place of argument. From the commencement of the Christian era, every art has been exhausted and every conceivable punishment inflicted to force all people to hold the same religious opinions. This effort was born of the idea that a certain belief was necessary to the salvation of the soul. Christ taught, and the church still teaches. that unbelief is the blackest of crimes. God is supposed to hate with an infinite and implacable hatred, every heretic upon the earth, and the heretics who have died are supposed at this moment to be suffering the agonies of the damned. The church persecutes the living and her God burns, for all eternity, the dead'

That is an extract from Geretics and Hericies by Robert Green ingersoll. Christianity and the church has long since used the word of god to blight their enemies. Even now you see people who would speak of their beliefs slighted and cast as an outsider.

I bring this into the debate about Praying for America because i feel Religion is now just a tool by man to do his bidding. You say Pray for America, but as i said, what good will that do. Will your god suddenly come down and strike down all the Homosexual's in America, or stop Abortion from ever happening.

I don't want to argue i just want to know what you feel you will achieve by asking for prayers to America. I am sorry if this has upset people, i did not mean it to, i a bringing up valid questions to a debeate that already exists.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Boy, I've rarely seen so much simpleminded bigotry packed into one quote! If that's your magisterium, then it's no wonder you're so confused about religion, God, sin, right, and wrong.

Here's the deal: if we are just accidental chemical reactions, then sure, all this talk about right and wrong is just so much malarky, and we can decide what's right and wrong for each of us. But if we were created, then it stands to reason that whoever created us knows what we need. Furthermore, if the one who made us is loving and kind, then we can count on that knowledge telling us what is best for us. That is the basis for Christian understanding of right and wrong, sin and righteousness: a loving God telling us what is best for us, what will help us most in the long run. You, and this fellow you quote, seem to be under the misapprehension that Christians (and Jews, for that matter) are making up these rules out of our own imaginations. We aren't - we're passing them along.

Think of the manual that comes with a car. It contains instructions on usage and maintenance, schedules for changing oil, specifications for parts, etc. That was written by the engineers who designed the car, and intended to help you keep the car in good running order. You're free to ignore it, but there will be consequences if you do.

It's like that with sin. God, who made us, tells us what is healthy for us and what isn't. If we ignore his instructions, we will pay a price. That's just how reality works.

[SK21]

First of all i don't like being called a boy. Secondly don't attack my beliefs or that, i'm not attacking you. I am merely stating that as i look back thorugh history a lot been done in the name of religion, not just christianity but many religions.

I do not know whether there is a god or not, all i'm saying is that there are evil humans and so much death and genocide has been committed in the name of Religion. You look at the latest, September 11th on America's own soil was said to be in the name of the Taliban's religion. they called it a Holy War.

I'm not if i upset you but that quote does point out some intersting things, i don;t want to upset anyone just stating that evil things have been done in the name of religion.

[castel]

If we ignore his instructions, we will pay a price

I don't like this vision of the faith.

Because it means that you follow the rules of god just because you're Frightened by him and no because you love him.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Ah, it's always more comfortable when we can make up our own rules, isn't it? At least for a while...

You might want to pick up a copy of Lewis' Mere Christianity. It's not a book for Christians, but one intended for non-Christians to explain what Christians believe and why. He does a much better job than I could - you'd find it quite readable.

When you say you don't like my "vision of faith", but I think you're misunderstanding my statement. That's much like reading your car's manual where it recommends changing the oil every 5,000 miles, and warns you that severe engine damage can result if you don't, and saying "I don't like that vision of car ownership." Sorry - if the car is made a certain way, and needs certain treatment, and you ignore that treament, you will pay a price. Furthermore, it's not like the engineer will appear by the side of the car and start bashing in the windows - it's a self-inflicted price, rising out of the nature of how the car is made.

[TimmyofOz]

I'm sorry I thought this was a prayer thread asking us to pray for our country. And I do pray for revival and an end to all this political strife. I pray that the Lord protects us from those that wish to oppress our country and my desire to worship Jesus. I don't want to live in an Islamic country and I want to live in a country that loves God with all their heart and also loves their neighbor as themselves. But when you live in sin, loving other becomes harder and harder. Believe it or not, the the more pure your heart the more you are able to love others.

[castel]

I don't want to live in an Islamic country and I want to live in a country that loves God with all their heart

Well, i think the islamics love god with all theirs hearts.

But theirs hearts are corrupted by anger and hate.

You see, the religious addiction can become a really dangerous weapon in bads hands. :p

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Well, according to our Muslim forum participants over in the Islam thread, the people whose hearts are filled with anger and hate aren't being good Muslims at all. Based on what I've seen and read elsewhere, I've no reason to doubt them - so it would seem that religion isn't the problem at all, but other things - such as sinful human nature.

Of course, if you really want to go for bloodthirsty savagery, the place to look is the secular regimes. The slaughter by the Marxist and facist totalitarians of the 20th century was far greater than the combined losses in all "religious wars" in history combined.

Seems the only thing worse than a religious fanatic is a non-religious fanatic :D

[castel]

The slaughter by the Marxist and facist totalitarians of the 20th century was far greater than the combined losses in all "religious wars" in history combined

Hmm, very hard to say.........

The crusades, the civil war in France between Catholics and Protestants (with the slaughter of the saint Barthelemy day), the inquisition, the wars of the muslim empire against the european countries during the dark age and all the slaughter happened during the "conquest" of south america (in the name of god and with the benediction of the pope)..........etc..........

So many dead. :(

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Not hard to say at all - the numbers are well documented. Believe me, the Holocaust was only the tip of the iceberg. From the Turkish slaughter of the Armenians at the start of the century to the Leninist/Stalinist purges of their own people to Mao Zedung's slaughter - the toll tops 200 million easily, and recent information out of China indicates it could be higher yet. Nothing even compares.

And that, of course, doesn't even count the 55 million plus unborn children slaughtered each year worldwide since the 1970s.

[castel]

doesn't even count the 55 million plus unborn children slaughtered each year worldwide since the 1970s

Lol, how can you kill someone who is not born yet ?

It's a nonsense. ^^

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Well, usually they use curved knives to slice them in pieces, or a powerful vacuum to rip their limbs off and suction the pieces away. A recently developed technique has the abortionist pull the body mostly out of the mother and then reach in with a pair of scissors to puncture the skull, then stick a vacuum tube in to suction out the brains and collapse the skull.

That's how.

[castel]

Yeah !!

And that works perfectly !! :D

[PrinceOfTheWest]

My prayer for you is that you may never fall into the power of someone with your own moral sensibilities.

[castel]

Thank dude.

And my prayer for you is that you may never fall into the power of someone with your own hypocritical religiosity.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Ah, thank you.

Matt 5:11,12

[castel]

My participation at this topic stop here. :cool:

[NkandSKforever]

Comm'on........you're living on this planet, in the real world, or what ?

Yeah, god says that........

And he says also : no kill, no rape, no steal, no lie.......etc........

But hey, big news !!

In the real world, this kind of things happened every day. ^^

Never, never the Bible must replace the law.

And the law says (in a plenty of countries around the world) : the abortion is legal, it's a woman's right.
that doesn't mean we should do it even if it happens every day. those babies deserve a chance to live. They aren't just in the womb 1 day and decied to become a living thing! they r alive and move, and need food, etc. And Americans aren't all bad. Lots of the people who are in the media like CNN and stuff seem liberal and flat out knock us for beliving in God. They call us fundamentalists which is their way of saying that we are stupid cuz we don't belive them when in actuality they have no certain proof for their Big Bang theory. Also, Hollywood is what gives us our "role models" while they live the wrong lifestyle.

[NkandSKforever]

Lol, how can you kill someone who is not born yet ?

It's a nonsense. ^^
They aren't just all of a sudden alive when they come out. they are alive before that!

[xovermyheadx]

I know not all of you are from America, but you are welcome to pray also.

I think we need to pray for our country! With gatting the Ten Commandments removed, growing abortion support, homosexuals getting married, and our judicial branch of government desentigrating our counrty needs lots of prayer.

Would you please help my preserve this nation? For our Founding Fathers, our future generations, and our familes!!!

Thank you!

Do u have something against homosexuals? Ill pray...

[NkandSKforever]

Well, i think the islamics love god with all theirs hearts.

But theirs hearts are corrupted by anger and hate.

You see, the religious addiction can become a really dangerous weapon in bads hands. :p
they don't even believe in the same god as we Christians are speaking of. they believe in Allah (sorry if that is spelled wrong)

[NkandSKforever]

I think we have nothing against THEM, just that they believe it is ok to be with one of the same gender because it goes against the bible. they may be great people of moral value, but a sin is a sin and others sin as well. I do believe it to be a sin personally because as I stated it goes against the bible's teachings.

[NkandSKforever]

Many of people visiting this site are very religious, whether they are christian, Catholic, muslim, etc.... I cannot say whether i am an atheist or what. At times i have believed that there was a god but i am sorry i'm too much into science to believe religion.

However i usually just sit back through the just Pray thread and other such but i came on here and was a little horrified. United states is on of the greatest nations on earth, it is powerful, it probably has the biggest currency value and it is still only a young nation compared to many of the other nations of the world.
I am Bisexual which means i have a sexual attraction to both male and female and i find homophobic people are a site that i considered universally accepting. I am disgusted that you can say because America is accepting Homosexual marriage and abortion it is going to the dawgs.

I am no opinions of Abortion either way but i have strong feelings for homosexuality and i do not think what you have said on this thread is right. It is not all about religion, i understand that you have strong religious beliefs but America is probably one of the strongest and greatest nations on Earth and you should see that.

so respect the nations not look for it's so-called sins.
my bad about the dawg thing, I'll try to b more polite :o .

[NkandSKforever]

is something happining in USA since your praying?? :rolleyes:
"Love is Patient" -1 chorinthians 13
If we love America, we must continue to hold fast and pray.
Prayer can make all the difference.

[QA48]

"Love is Patient" -1 chorinthians 13
If we love America, we must continue to hold fast and pray.
Prayer can make all the difference.

i love that verse!!!!!

Love is very patient,
Love is very kind,
Love is never envious
Or vaunted up with pride.

Nor is she conceited,
And never is she rude,
Never does she think of self
Or ever get annoyed.

She never is resentful,
Is never glad with sin,
But always glad to side with truth,
Whene’er the truth should win.

She bears up under everything,
Believes the best in all,
There is no limit to her hope,
And never will she fall.

[NkandSKforever]

I do too^^!

[abbyluvswilliam]

yea I pray for abortion all the time!! I am not predjudiced against Homosexuality, i just don't believe in it!!

[Driad54]

Thank ya'll very much. I wish i had more political stance i would overturn Roe v. Wade. (Hopefully I won't have to, if we get some good judges on the bench).

Such as Judge Roberts and almost-judge Sam Alito......I feel like this country has lost its meaning, almost. It is and sometimes still stood for freedom and equal rights for all men and a land for oppurtunity. What happened to equal rights?, isn't an unborn-child a human? Also we need to pray for the seriously wrong things going on such as women abuse and killings (Terry Schiavo) and sick-twisted men & women who rape all-ages (Michael Jackson). I fear the worst for America. We must all pray for the survival of it, everyone and every country.

[Driad54]

Many of people visiting this site are very religious, whether they are christian, Catholic, muslim, etc.... I cannot say whether i am an atheist or what. At times i have believed that there was a god but i am sorry i'm too much into science to believe religion.

However i usually just sit back through the just Pray thread and other such but i came on here and was a little horrified. United states is on of the greatest nations on earth, it is powerful, it probably has the biggest currency value and it is still only a young nation compared to many of the other nations of the world.
I am Bisexual which means i have a sexual attraction to both male and female and i find homophobic people are a site that i considered universally accepting. I am disgusted that you can say because America is accepting Homosexual marriage and abortion it is going to the dawgs.

I am no opinions of Abortion either way but i have strong feelings for homosexuality and i do not think what you have said on this thread is right. It is not all about religion, i understand that you have strong religious beliefs but America is probably one of the strongest and greatest nations on Earth and you should see that.

so respect the nations not look for it's so-called sins.

Wrong......you are wrong if your bisesexual and you are wrong if you find homosexuality "accepting". In the book of Genesis, of the Catholic bible (maybe you should read it sometime), it says God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve as my uncle, a priest studying for a doctored in Moral Theology, says. You can not justify your words by saying by saying "So respect the nations, not look for it's so-called sins.

[SK21]

Oh i was happy to go along with you lot, i disagree with you on Homosexuality and abortion etc until i read Driad54 comments attacking my sexuality.

Do you think your so, B**** pure because your attracted to the opposite sex. I don't beleive in adam and eve so for i care it could have been Adam and Steve but you and your uncle come up with a pretty lame saying.

I cannot beleive the rubbish that our spouting, I came on this site to debate not to defend my sexuality but you lot havea lot against homosexuality. Have you not heard of the second bible, where it was alleged Jesus took a young male apprentice into the desert to 'Initiate ' him.

I think the way you look at things through religion is disgusting.

[NkandSKforever]

Oh i was happy to go along with you lot, i disagree with you on Homosexuality and abortion etc until i read Driad54 comments attacking my sexuality.

Do you think your so, B**** pure because your attracted to the opposite sex. I don't beleive in adam and eve so for i care it could have been Adam and Steve but you and your uncle come up with a pretty lame saying.

I cannot beleive the rubbish that our spouting, I came on this site to debate not to defend my sexuality but you lot havea lot against homosexuality. Have you not heard of the second bible, where it was alleged Jesus took a young male apprentice into the desert to 'Initiate ' him.

I think the way you look at things through religion is disgusting.
it's not disgusting to those who know that it is to help God's will to be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. I am not against u but, merely your actions. As I said earlier, a sin is a sin and I have done them myself but I can only hope that people will turn away from sin. I am sorry if other Christians have offended u but that is not my intent.

[SK21]

I wasn't getting at Christians in general it was just driad54 and their unbelievabley biast opinions thta iwas so enraged about. I'm sorry for my comments directed at Christians in general.

[NkandSKforever]

I wasn't getting at Christians in general it was just driad54 and their unbelievabley biast opinions thta iwas so enraged about. I'm sorry for my comments directed at Christians in general.
nah, it's cool i knew what u meant (though that wasn't the nicest thing to say, but I would get mad if peeps mad fun of what I belived in ex. the adam and eve thing but I guess that is just your opinion though I disagree) but again I'm sorry if we as christians seem to have jusmped on u guys. we shouldn't. It goes against our principles, but we can misinterpret things and emotions just over the internet.

[Rohan Princess]

apperently i'm not going to be on enough to keep up on this, so have at it. just remember to be NICE we don't want to shut down a good discussion thread *Note: don't insult each other* Bye

[waterhogboy]

Yeh guys - remember this is a prayer thread not a discussion thread...

[QA48]

for a second there i thought this thread was going to the tiolet......

Lets stay on topic guys....

[Christine Marie]

I don't think praying for America, or anywhere, is going to do much since everything that's happening seems to be part of revelations. It's kind of hard to ask God to change the prophecy; it's in His hands, not ours :)

[miss-moseley]

I don't think praying for America, or anywhere, is going to do much since everything that's happening seems to be part of revelations. It's kind of hard to ask God to change the prophecy; it's in His hands, not ours :)

youre right about that... its God who decide!!!:D

[Christine Marie]

Oh i was happy to go along with you lot, i disagree with you on Homosexuality and abortion etc until i read Driad54 comments attacking my sexuality.

Do you think your so, B**** pure because your attracted to the opposite sex. I don't beleive in adam and eve so for i care it could have been Adam and Steve but you and your uncle come up with a pretty lame saying.

I cannot beleive the rubbish that our spouting, I came on this site to debate not to defend my sexuality but you lot havea lot against homosexuality. Have you not heard of the second bible, where it was alleged Jesus took a young male apprentice into the desert to 'Initiate ' him.

I think the way you look at things through religion is disgusting.
I don't think any religious text deems one impure for being attracted to someone; it's the actions that are deemed as wrong, "sins".
Some people are attracted to the same gender, to children, to animals, to shoes, to silk, and some even to themselves (lol!)
It's when people act on these attractions that's deemed sinful.

[waterhogboy]

Ahhhhh - theres nothing I love more than a bunch of fatalists. Just because we believe something is definitely going to happen, doesnt mean we cant still pray about it. Everything is predestined by God, yet we are still commanded to pray...

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Christine Marie, you're dead right. It is what we do that is the sin, not experiencing the temptation (always understanding that sometimes "doing" can be internal). I may be tempted to beat up a coworker or cheat on my wife, but if I resist that and do not indulge it, I have not sinned. Of course, if I spend my time imagining how I'd beat up my coworker or fantasizing about cheating on my wife, then I'm sinning, too, but it's a sin of a different type.

You were doomed to say that, WHB!

[Rhyanidd]

yea I pray for abortion all the time!! I am not predjudiced against Homosexuality, i just don't believe in it!!
I believe in homosexuality, I believe its real, that is, however I think its wrong. It goes against my beliefs. Against my God!

[QA48]

Ahhhhh - theres nothing I love more than a bunch of fatalists. Just because we believe something is definitely going to happen, doesnt mean we cant still pray about it. Everything is predestined by God, yet we are still commanded to pray...
**Shouts** Amen!!

[EveningStar]

This area of the forum is a sanctuary and therefore you are shouting in church. When you yell in here it's not your fellow posters you are disrespecting, it's God himself. :(

Please debate in the proper area of the forum.

[QA48]

The israelites themselves shouted to God! and for your information i go to a spanish church not a cemetery.

try to tell that to a black southern Gospel church. i highly doubt that they disrespect God.

and what do you say about David? who danced like crazy in front of everybody? yeah his wife got embarrassed and told him something. But got punished by God because of (by the way i am not impliying that you will get punished i'm just putting an example.)

[EveningStar]

I don't hear praise being shouted. I hear personal attacks and insults.

This is a prayer request forum. When this thread becomes a debate it will be moved or deleted. I would sincerely hate to act on this, but given a choice between being popular and being responsible, I'll choose responsible every time.

Please debate in the appropriate forum.

[QA48]

i never shouted a personal attack! :mad: i just liked what they guy posted and felt like shouting amen! that is not a personal attack that is an expression.

Ahhhhh - Just because we believe something is definitely going to happen, doesnt mean we cant still pray about it. Everything is predestined by God, yet we are still commanded to pray...

and i'll shouted again AMEN to that post!

[EveningStar]

Oh for heaven's sake! I wasn't talking about anything you said! Two guys were having an arguement about gay lifestyles and someone else was ripping into another poster over abortion....

I saw a lot of bickering going on and I said "It stops here."

You can shout Hallalujah till the rafters shake. It might drown out the arguements.... :o

[QA48]

Oh for heaven's sake! I wasn't talking about anything you said! Two guys were having an arguement about gay lifestyles and someone else was ripping into another poster over abortion....

I saw a lot of bickering going on and I said "It stops here."

You can shout Hallalujah till the rafters shake. It might drown out the arguements.... :o

LOL sorry. but in the future make sure you put the Quote of the person you're refering to on your post. ok. :cool: