Aravis and Cor

[queen_aravis]

I was just wondering if anyone felt happy when, in the end of THB, Aravis and Cor ended up married...I know I did!

I'd been longing for it to happen ever since they met, as a matter of fact...

[elfjad]

I didn't feel unhappy but likewise I wasn't ecstatic - I think I was indifferent. HHB did not affect me like some of the other books - I'm not sure why though.

[QA48]

i didn't feel happy. i just thought that she married cor because it was in her best interest. i mean, she treated the guy like crap throughout the whole book :mad: and Cor being the naive and humble person that he is well, you know........ :mad:

[QA48]

I didn't feel unhappy but likewise I wasn't ecstatic - I think I was indifferent. HHB did not affect me like some of the other books - I'm not sure why though.

i say the same with the Silver Chair......

[NarniaHeart]

I thought it was great that they get Married!!! And King and Queen Too!? Awesome!!!




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[queen_aravis]

Originally posted by QueenAravis48:

i didn't feel happy. i just thought that she married cor because it was in her best interest. i mean, she treated the guy like crap throughout the whole book and Cor being the naive and humble person that he is well, you know........

Hmmm...I don't know about that. I think there was more to it than interest! Personally, I think that when Cor tried to stop Aslan from "getting" Aravis, she realized that he was more than a simple Calormene [boy], and started treating him better.

[high_kingpeter]

I think that Aravis really began to like Cor around the ending of the book. It seemed to fit that they both got married. They were just oppisites waiting to be friends.

[**DaRyNqUeEnOfNaRnIa**]

u no wut? ur so totally rite! i wuz waitin for it 2 happen since they first met!

but the real question is wut happened 2 Queen Susan! u barely saw her come in to the book! :(

[queen_aravis]

welll...that's true, but here's why:

a) The book wasn't really about the Pevensies, so you only saw her when Shasta came in with the Narnians.

and b) Because the other scene where the Pevensies appeared was the battle scene, and seeing as Susan didn't like battles the deal was left for Edmund and Lucy.

But hey, we saw less of Peter...*cries*

[Malacandra]

u no wut? ur so totally rite! i wuz waitin for it 2 happen since they first met!

but the real question is wut happened 2 Queen Susan! u barely saw her come in to the book! :(

But you know what happened to her. She never married anyone else, and went back to England some years later with her sister and brothers, and reverted to childhood ("teenager" wasn't really a current term or concept at the time; teen culture wouldn't emerge for a few more years). She didn't have much to do with the plot apart from being a foil for Rabadash; first to find him attractive when he visited Narnia and conducted himself like a proper knight, and then to see what he was really like when he carried on as usual at home, being a general all-around bully and A-hole.

[Prince_Cor]

It was kinda obvious they were gonna get married... :p

[Gryphon]

yeah i know, but i need to go and read it again cause i dont remember it all very well, theres been a lot of book between that one and now. :D

[Prince_Cor]

lol...I just got done reading it (again) Maybe if they spice it up they could make a movie of The Horse and His Boy...

[Giselle the Ethereal]

Guys and girls who always have awkward arguments always end up with each other. That's called Lovers' Quarrels. :D

I always felt that they would end up with each other.

[Lady Larien]

When Cor came back to the place where the hermit was i thought he would ask Aravis to marry him but he didn't. i knew they would get married in the end

[lilrumpkinkb]

lol...I just got done reading it (again) Maybe if they spice it up they could make a movie of The Horse and His Boy...

Yes, that would be good... I am gald that they got married. I am mad that they didn't kiss in the book, and did you notice that in Chapter 14 that Cor, and Aravis were shy around eachother when they met up.

'Aravis looked twice at his face before she gasped and said, "Why! It's Shasta!" Shasta all at once turned very red and began speaking very quickly. "Look here, Aravis," he said, "I do hope you won't think I'm got up like this (and the trumpeter and all) to try and impress you ot make out that I'm different or any rot of that sort."

Gotta love that!

[she-elfwarrior19]

When they first didnt get along well i had an idea that at the end they'd eventually get together.:D

[Rhyanidd]

I knew they would end up together...dont remember I time when I didnt think that!

Yeah Aravis did treat him bad, but some of it was her personality, she was independent and impatient, and Shasta didnt know that much, so it was frustrating....ok talking from personel expierence now.....I (an impatient person) am sometimes mean to people who dont know the stuff I know (say in something I am good at like knitting or washing dishes) because some things to us are intuitively obvious and we cant figgure why they arent to others....and we dont like to admit that we arent perfect.....;)

[♣Teh Deviant♣]

I thought that when they were young (meaning in about 3/4 to almost the whole book), they ALWAYS fought like a married couple! :D That was what made it obvioius to me...

Sofia

[Gondor Knight of Narnia]

I liked it when they got married in the end...wasn't expecting it. :D

[glamel]

i expected it, that in the end they will get married:D

[Rhyanidd]

When I was really little I wanted to be Aravis...I especially wanted to be friends with Gwyn!

[shmeepie]

the horse and his boy was my favourite book, and i was so glad when aravis and cor got married. lol i'm such a little romance nut :) there wasn't much romance in the other books, so i was a little disappointed when romance wasn't a big part in the book, and also that cs lewis simple put it as "and they got married so that they could quarrell with more convenience", even though i knew that they were madly in love :) ;)

[Malacandra]

Yes, it reminds me of a quote from Pyramids where Teppic talks of Chidder and Ptraci getting on like a house on fire: smoke, flames, people running around screaming... :D

I like to think that Aravis and Cor shouted and screamed at each other a lot, but got their disagreements out in the open, dealt with them, and never went to sleep angry.

[Puzzle dear]

It does say in the book that they were so used to arguing and making up that they married just so they could do it more conveniantly. I think it was love too.

[LadyEm]

Well, I think that was simply CS Lewis' way of putting it. It sounds like a bit of gentle humour "so that they could keep on doing it." Meaning of course that they were in love, and they would rather not quarrel with anyone else.

Likely they'd be jealous! I was pleasantly surprised that they got married at the end of the book. When I first read the book, I was quite young and still looking for obvious bits of romance, I think - so I hoped, but wasn't quite sure if Lewis would do it!

He isn't a romance writer. LOL. I think that's about as romantic as Lewis gets. But it was the perfect way to describe Aravis and Shasta's relationship.

Also - it's interesting to point out that they did *not* get married immediately upon return to Archenland. I believe the sentence before the one that talks about them getting married, "And later, when they had all grown up..." because they were still quite young.

So, here's my take on it: It was in Archenland when the romantic side of their relationship fully developed so that is why you don't see happening. You see hints of this relationship throughout the book and you see how right they are for each other, but it doesn't happen because it is not time yet - and Lewis isn't a romance writer.

[Rhyanidd]

Yeah I am glad that there wasnt alot of romance, totally would have ruined the books, however every time I hear the line "so they could do it more conveintnly" I laugh so hard! NO matter how many times I have heard it!

[buckmana]

My first thought is irony: they spend most of the book (and their lives together) bouncing off each other and they find out they're perfect for each other!!!

My next thought was that Aslan is a clever matchmaker (especially since he seems to have a vested interest in Shasta's life).

Aravis doesn't strike me as pretentious. Confidence in her abilities seems to be her defining characteristic. Unlike other Calormen women (girls?), she seems to be more interested in being a warrior than a wife (even though the only in-depth sampling we have is her friend Lasraleen (how did someone like that befriend Aravis?), who's a poor example even by those low standards).

So, therefore, she's critical of Shasta (and others) simply because he's (they're) not as perfect as she sees herself to be. And then she learns otherwise when he charges unarmed at a lion (it's really Aslan, but no-one knows that) to defend her!

I can imagine the Archenland army being led by Shasta and Aravis into battle with Corin at their side.

[Susan of the Arrows]

I'm totally okay with the idea of them getting together. After all, they were opposites at first and opposites attract. Harharhar. :D


I really think Aravis's feelings for Shasta (Cor) changed when he tried to save her when the lion attacked.... though the lion had no real intention of killing her. LOL

[Twilight]

I was delighted when they got married because I think they would be such a cute couple! :)

[moonspinner]

It was kinda obvious they were gonna get married... :p
I thought it was obvious that Digory and Polly would get married, too, and they didn't! I had this idea that Polly died when she was young so Digory became an old bachelor because of that. Then I remember being so disappointed when I read in The Last Battle that they had both grown up to be old bachelor and spinster but never got married. Now that I'm older I realize that that was a very realistic portrayal of asexual people and a platonic male/female friendship but the little romantic in me was disappointed all the same!

So in short: I wasn't sure Aravis and Shasta would get married but I desperately wanted them to all through out the story and it looked like they would and I was very happy that they did!

Well, I think that was simply CS Lewis' way of putting it. It sounds like a bit of gentle humour "so that they could keep on doing it." Meaning of course that they were in love, and they would rather not quarrel with anyone else.

And I think they had lots of fun ;) making up ;) as well.

[Arvan]

I loved the "quarreling" line. And I was quite happy that they got married (even though when I first read it I didn't like romance at all :))

[BarbarianKing]

So in short: I wasn't sure Aravis and Shasta would get married but I desperately wanted them to all through out the story and it looked like they would and I was very happy that they did!

And I think they had lots of fun ;) making up ;) as well.
You're right about that!!!

I loved the "quarreling" line. And I was quite happy that they got married (even though when I first read it I didn't like romance at all :))
The description of their relationship wasn't exactly romantic writing, but it was really nice to read that they did get married. And guess what? This was an interracial marriage. Cor was white and blonde and Aravis was dark skinned from a completely different race. Isn't that awesome? So if you ever heard people say that Lewis was a racist (as there are rumors around) remind them of this part of the story.

[caspian the 10th]

i think the horse and his boy is a wonderful story, and i do like the part where he gets mistaken as corrin in the street...its awsome story

[Benisse]

I think C.S. Lewis' explanation for why Cor and Aravis got married very amusing. It sounds like their friendship certainly had no lack of sparks which is certainly true to their character development throughout the book. I was happy they ended up together after all the adventures they shared.

They also complemented each other nicely, his being rather roughly brought up and her growing up in courtly circles, yet they still both had that same longing for Joy which they found in their quest for freedom and the North...

[Tarkaan]

It does not sit well with a Tarkaan to comment on such superficial matters but in this instance it is different.

The girl (I refuse to utter her name) was of high-born Calormen stock. She had a fabulous betrothal and a future as a rich and respected lady before her.

To disobey the orders of her parents is unheard of.
To abscond with a slave is treason.
To subsequently marry the slave is a death sentence.

If Rabadash had returned her to our lands only her aristocratic blood would have prevented her execution being a public affair.

But we are not unreasonable people. I understand her reservations regarding the Grand Vizier. His bloodline was not of the ancient houses of Calormen and the acquisition of his wealth was questionable.

The solution, is time-honoured. She should have married him, taken a Tarkaan as a lover and then (together with him) poisoned the old fool.
His advanced age would have meant no suspicion would have been cast.

After a suitable time she could have married her Tarkaan and have lived a fabulously opulent life.
As it is, I can only imagine that she made the best of the dire situation her own folly had created. Having come to her senses in the dreary, wet cold barbarian lands of the north, she was left with little alternative but to marry the brute.

Have the poets not said:
"Deep draughts from the fountain of reason are desirable
in order to extinguish the fire of youthful love."

Allium Radeesh Tarkaan

[PrinceOfTheWest]

How well have the poets said, "Harsh is the vinegar of folly on the tongue, but the draught of wisdom goes down like a fine microbrew." You have indeed spoken well, sapient Tarkaan, and we thank you for deigning to bestow upon us, who are but worms, the fruit of your wisdom.

Indeed the impetuous folly of the Nameless Wretch who so disgraced her house is a blot upon all Calormen. Imagine exchanging a post of honor as one of the wifes of an honored counselor of the Tisroc (may he live forever) to be mere queen of a petty principality. And all this talk of "freedom" - as if that compared to having hundreds of slaves at your beck and call. Pshaw! Such illusion.

[Tarkaan]

The pleasure of meeting such a sagacious warrior as yourself is comparable only to the delight of garlic upon a maiden's breath. That you have seen the situation thus, is a blessing for this board.

I fear that all who come into contact with these northern barbarians may fall prey to bewitchment. The behaviour or Prince Rabadash, his infatuation with that pale northern witch is hard to otherwise explain.

Though (Tash be praised) I have never set foot in that accursed land, I am well informed of the devilry at large within it. What need be said of a land that was locked in ice for a century by a demon? It is well known that there are but few humans there, although many half-humans with animal parts.

Their talk of freedom is clearly a cunning ruse. Tis mere dressing for sedition. It is to be hoped that when the mighty Tisroc (may he live for ever) stretches out his hand and takes that province, order will be imposed; schools and factories built, taxes levied and so on.

[BarbarianKing]

How well have the poets said, "Harsh is the vinegar of folly on the tongue, but the draught of wisdom goes down like a fine microbrew." You have indeed spoken well, sapient Tarkaan, and we thank you for deigning to bestow upon us, who are but worms, the fruit of your wisdom.

Indeed the impetuous folly of the Nameless Wretch who so disgraced her house is a blot upon all Calormen. Imagine exchanging a post of honor as one of the wifes of an honored counselor of the Tisroc (may he live forever) to be mere queen of a petty principality. And all this talk of "freedom" - as if that compared to having hundreds of slaves at your beck and call. Pshaw! Such illusion.
I want some of that "draught of wisdom"!!!!;)

[Aravis_yanes]

I was hoping they end up together!.. and when they did I was happy... Aravis may be rude with him in the story but at the end she was nice... and remember that years passed after they could get marry so if u imagine lots of things could happen in that period of time :D so it made sense they got married

[BarbarianKing]

and remember that years passed after they could get marry so if u imagine lots of things could happen in that period of time :D so it made sense they got married

Good thought!! It makes a lot of sense, yes. They could have had many other adventures together!

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Well, they were very young when they escaped Calormen, so they could do a lot a growing up in the years to follow. Many times adolescent friends with rocky relationships grow up to love each other. Their shared adventure would have been the basis for a lifelong bond, and Aravis would have had nobody closer than Cor in Archenland.

However, I can only imagine the disappointment of the ladies of Archenland when the long-missing crown prince shows up again - along with an attractive young woman with whom he already has a close friendship!