New Wonka Movie

[tgraveline]

Well this is a future movie that has peaked my interest quite a bit. Its tim burton working with johnny depp again, which should be great cause those two work great together as we have seen before. I think this is called charlie and the chocolate factory or something like that instead. I'm a fan of the old movie with jean wilder, hes a great old actor and i miss him, ever since his wife died hes been gone from filming for the most part, she too was great on SNL, she was gilda radner if you didn't know. But i really hope this movie is great and really brings back more of the creativity and bliss the first stirred in all of our little hearts and souls. Burton can do it, he did great stuff with big fish and i know he can pull this off too.

tg

[Pretzel Head]

I always loved the old version so id certainly be interested in a remake. Not really certain how they could improve on the previous one.. but it would be interesting to see. I really hope they dont make a mess of it and completely change everything. That'd really suck.

[tgraveline]

What if they really just made it truly their own? I remember seeing return to Oz and how different that was to the wizard of oz and loving that one more than the original, much darker and cooler in my opinion. Tim Burton is capable of making it original outside of the fact that its a remake.

tg

[Monkeh]

Yeah. Return to Oz Rocked lol. This new Wonka sounds interesting. I want to see more info for it. It's either going to be great or flop. We'll see.

[kart00nks]

yep I liked this movie alot I hope it works out well. I hope it doesn't totally bomb but being a depp fan I don't really think thats much to worry about he has alot of screen presence.

-ks

[Monkeh]

Hmmmm. I wonder if They'll actually make Wonka and The Great Glass Elevator aswell this time. Always wanted to see that made lol.

[tgraveline]

Interesting indeed, one thing i have thought of is the boat, i loved that, and with all the sights on the walls as they went through the tunnels and stuff always freaked me out when i was a kid, so i am curious as to whether or not they will keep that or not and if they keep it what will be different.

tg

[Sycron]

I'm not sure how to feel about the remake just yet. I mean, the original was just such a classical children's movie that I think it's impossible to create a better version.

[Specter]

I'm hoping that this is really good... although I'm not that big a fan of the source material, Tim Burton is a visual genius, and Johnny Depp is a versatile actor.

[B1-66ER]

I know Johnny is the actor playing now, but do you guys know who it was going to be before him? First Eminem wanted a part to play, then Marylin Manson wanted to do it. LOL can you believe that? I was like: :o

[Y. Fish]

I like Johnny Depp (and nooo, it's not just 'cause I think he's good-looking, I also think he's a great actor) and he'd be an interesting Willy Wonka. My friend, who's a huge fan of the book, said that as long as they keep the square candies that look round, he'll be a happy camper.

[tgraveline]

well all i know is that tim burton will do a great job, after seeing big fish he is the perfect guy for it, and after pirates of the carribean we know johnny has the capability of being an awesome willy wonka. So go out and find those golden tickets ladies, and you might meet the man of your dreams.

tg

[Y. Fish]

:huh: Huh? I thought it was, "Find a golden ticket, get a lot of chocolate." Not "Find a golden ticket, get a date." Of course, with me, the two are interchangeable, but that's just me.

[Monkeh]

I thought the 2 were interchangeable with most females :blink: Or is it just with all the females I know?

[Y. Fish]

Well, I don't presume to be able to speak for all my race, but it does seem like the case that dates and chocolate can be substituted for one another. I myself prefer the chocolate, but dinner and a movie isn't much worse.

[tgraveline]

you almost sound as if you don't care about men. Now don't let me make any presumptions about you.

tg

PS cause i will if given the time

[Monkeh]

Check this out
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1345899.html

Makes this film sound ever better.

Oh and now we have the wood between the worlds. Maybe one of the mods can move this thread.

[tgraveline]

thats some pretty cool stuff, and sure your majest, i can move the thread you as you wish.

tg

[inkspot]

You have to love Tim Burton -- Nightmare Before Christmas was a classic, and I can't help it -- I loved Planet of the Apes. Every scene looked like a tableaux you could freeze and hang on your wall. He will do wonderfully with Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, and of course Johnny Depp will be adorable. He can't help it.

[Monkeh]

You rock mesta timmeh. :D

Here is the new TV Spot that was released not to long ago.
http://media.themoviebox.net/movies/Charlie-and-the-Chocolate-Factory/TVSpot/

[rosymole]

I really hope this film works out- I used to literally read myself stupid on Roald Dahl books as a kid, but I didn't like the Gene wilder film at all- it just didn't fit my own imaginings..shame..but Depp is cracking and Burton is very cool too, so we shall see!

[Dragon]

lol, I love the way how Depp says "You're really weird" in that last tv-spot. I can't wait to see the context of that sentence.

[rosymole]

I'v just managed to ahve a look at one of the trailers (grr dial-up does so not rock) - looks good- nice and modrn, amusing biut at the end- Depp walking into a glass door or something? But, that music! It sounds like helium fuelled squirrels and it's stuck with me for the rest of the night -ech!

[pacifiquesea]

If you want a laugh, watch the German trailer - the song is way creepier in German, and you get to see the puppets on fire (which was deemed to inappropriate for America's child audiences).

[Bitter Milton]

HAHA! That was great!

BTW, remember that this movie is Tim Burton's take on the Rold Dahl book, not a remake of the old movie.

[tgraveline]

dang straight. I'm really wanting to see it for his take on it. Not to compare it to the old, but then again, i love gene wilder. So i still think he was a great wonka.

tg

[she-elfwarrior19]

monkeh ive always wondered what your avatar is from?but ya me and my cuz will be going to see willy wonka, i loved the book when my class read it in grade 3

[Thanatos]

I dont know if you all know this, but the remake is based on the book not on the original movie. The book is more dark and evil than what the original movie shows, and Burton is doing what should have been done a long time ago. A movie more like the book, and not a movie that is all happy and lovey. I am telling a lot of people this, b/c i dont want them dissapointed when they see that the movie isnt AT ALL like the original, b/c it wont be. I am really REALLY excitied for this movie, not only am i a HUGE fan of tim burton, but also i love the book. The original movie was pretty good, but nothing compared to the book.

[tgraveline]

I knew that actually. Thats why i've been so excited about this. Now the new second trailer just makes me more excited about it.

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[legolas]

Now the new second trailer just makes me more excited about it.

tg

Well, believe it or not, I have not seen one trailer yet. I have seen an advertisement in my magazine and my nieghbor told me about it, but thats all. :)

[tgraveline]

yeah, there is not as much advertising for this movie i would have expected. Its just interesting how most of the movies i look forward to are not so advertised anymore.

tg

[she-elfwarrior19]

ya i saw the preview on tv once and once or twice in theatres, so it looks pretty good

[Monkeh]

TG. I think it has alot to do with the fact that Reloaded, LOTR, and EP I & II(Ep III not so much) were all so over hyped, that since then, nothing seems like its advertised very anymore. Even though alot of movies are being advertised as much as movies used to be.

[tgraveline]

That could be so my friend. Now I just have to say where have you been and how you doin buddy? Its been awhile agian, lol. Take care and come on here more often. Please!!!

tg

[Dragon]

The latest full trailer has been released. It is much better than the previous trailers (no singing oompaloompas in this one). It also isn't quite as insanely fast as the other trailers. We actually get a glimpse of the style of movie it is. And frankly, I like it. Take a look.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/large.html

[rosymole]

I prefer that one, and joy of joys, Charlie has an english accent! Please don't be offended guys but if he was American it wouldn't have seemed right!
Depp looks verty cool, and as always he's thrown himself face first into the role, but I had imagined him as being a little older perhaps?

[tgraveline]

But of course he does, its our young peter from finding neverland. I just love that kid right now. I know what you mean about depp looking older, i think thats more of the gene wilder affect he had. You would think that a guy thats retiring basically would be older.

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[rosymole]

I didn't really like the Gene Wilder movie, I was a definite book purist when I first saw it and felt pretty horrified! I think they need to add some latex wrinkles to old Johnny boy, make him look a little beautiful too.

[waterhogboy]

Saw a preview for this at War of the Worlds today. It doesn't look too bad - and the kids are English - which is good.

[Dragon]

and the kids are English - which is good.
except, of course, Mike Teevee, who represents us violence-loving, video-game playing, North Americans. lol I'm not saying that in a bitter way. It's a very true stereotype of us from the US.

[rosymole]

And Ms Violet Beauregard (sp?) she seems to be very much 'like ya know, like, a proper, like tennager, yeah?' Think Paris Hilton but with less class. (I'm so mean!)

[Dragon]

TG. I think it has alot to do with the fact that Reloaded, LOTR, and EP I & II(Ep III not so much) were all so over hyped, that since then, nothing seems like its advertised very anymore. Even though alot of movies are being advertised as much as movies used to be.
I beg to differ. Fantastic Four is everywhere. I was at the mall today and there were HUGE banners everywhere hanging from the ceiling each with a different member of the Four. There are posters in comic book stores, cups at Burger King... just about everywhere you look are the fantastic four.

[waterhogboy]

They've replaced the geese (or it swans) with squirrels though!!!! How wrong is that!??!?

[Tarkheena_Finduilas22]

Johnney Depp......


NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo! :D He looks so weird in the movie!

[Dragon]

They've replaced the geese (or it swans) with squirrels though!!!! How wrong is that!??!?
well, let's see, considering the Gene Wilder movie ("Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory") replaced the squirrels that were in the original Roald Dahl book with geese, it seems just appropriate that this new one ("Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" -- same name as the book) would revert back to the original material in the book and keep the squirrels in.

Remember, this is not a remake of the Gene Wilder movie (thank heavens) but is a more faithful adaptation of the original book.

[inkspot]

it seems just appropriate that this new one ("Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" -- same name as the book) would revert back to the original material in the book and keep the squirrels in.
Thank God! I thought I was losing my mind. I was thinking back to the book and it was squirrels, so I didn't know what WHB was talking about ... (not knowing what someone is talking about is not all that unusual with me, but when it comes to a book, I usually remember better than that!)

[waterhogboy]

IS IT REALLY SQUIRRELS IN THE BOOK!!!!!!!!! :eek:

WOW!!!!!! Well - I've really shown off my literary expertise havent I!?!?

[inkspot]

IS IT REALLY SQUIRRELS IN THE BOOK!!!!!!!!! :eek:
WOW!!!!!! Well - I've really shown off my literary expertise havent I!?!?
Squirrels, yeah, they try to crack her shell. You must read the book, WHB. It's delightful. Roald Dahl had such a cracked sense of humor.

I liked the old Gene Wilder movie, but I am glad they are making this new movie based on the book instead of re-making the movie. Can't wait to see Johnny Depp! :cool: He's the coolest.

[borntofly]

is johnny Depp going to sing in this movie? you know like gene wilder? and Freddy Highmore is in it! yippee!

[Monkeh]

No. Its not a musical like the Gene Wilder movie(Thankfully. I Hate Musicals).

[legolas]

oh really.... i've been in a musical at my church from 2-5 grade!!! I was the star once!

[borntofly]

I think it would be fun to hear Johnny Depp sing! I like musicals.

[waterhogboy]

Squirrels, yeah, they try to crack her shell. You must read the book, WHB. It's delightful. Roald Dahl had such a cracked sense of humor.

I liked the old Gene Wilder movie, but I am glad they are making this new movie based on the book instead of re-making the movie. Can't wait to see Johnny Depp! :cool: He's the coolest.

I have read the book - I just dont remember that bit!! Ive read glass elevator too.

[inkspot]

I have read the book - I just dont remember that bit!! Ive read glass elevator too.
Oh, good. I should never have doubted you. :o

[tgraveline]

OH you could have doubted our little british boy. though he is strong, he sometimes is forgetful and i have to send him a remembral.

tg

[pacifiquesea]

I think it would be fun to hear Johnny Depp sing! I like musicals.

Haha - I read somewhere that the songs were the worst part of it, all in different styles and such. Can't wait to find out for myself!

[borntofly]

so they really will be songs in it? have you seen the oompa loompas? their super tiny and they're all one guy who's been duplicated over and over agian.

[mauly]

If you all go see this movie :p you'll be supporting Michael Jackson and all his wickedness.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/charlie_and_the_chocolate_factory/johnny_depp/factory3.jpg


;) j/k

[Dragon]

I know for a fact the oompa loompas sing. There's a video clip of them singing about Agustus Gloop on movies.yahoo.com.

As for the whole "Michael Jackson" thing, I don't think it supports him as much as it shows how much better Jackson would look if he had a nose.

[waterhogboy]

OH you could have doubted our little british boy. though he is strong, he sometimes is forgetful and i have to send him a remembral.

tg

Sometimes forgetful!?!? Id forget me head if it werent screwed on!

[tgraveline]

wow mauly, how long has it been? Oh and we are not supporting your buddy michael. We would never do that. We only love children ourselves just as much, ha ha.

tg

[Sunrise]

The oopa-loompas sing in the movie because they sing in the books. I just hope they sing the actual songs from the books, because they have such twisted, wacky lyrics, instead of making up some dumb "doompa de doo" thing for them like in the old musical.

Roald Dahl was such a twisted old goat. ;) Who better than Tim Burton to put this together? Though I have to say I am dissapointed to see a goatee-less Wonka. And he ought to have a British accent, too.

[holyboy]

I watched a trailer for the Wonka movie while the site was down (blasted modem) Willy Wonka still scares the heck out of me, but the sarcasm in the wovie seems to be really good. However, the person they got to play Charlie's grandpa also scares the heck out of me. I think the theme in this movie is "Lets see how we can assesorise(sp) the actors so they all look creepy." Also, Charlie has a really strong British accent (it sounds like a Londoner accent) so that should make the British happy.

[Sunrise]

I agree Depp's Wonka is creepy. I mean, Wonka is supposed to be a little creepy, but I always pictured it being due to his quirkiness and unpredictability, not his appearance. What's with the white face and purple contacts, Johnny? And that awful wig...ugh. It gives me the shivers.

[inkspot]

No, no, no, Depp looks awesome! A freaky and eccentric hermit chocolate maker. Can't wait to see this! :p

[borntofly]

No, no, no, Depp looks awesome! A freaky and eccentric hermit chocolate maker. Can't wait to see this! :p
I totally agree with this! I almost pee my pants just after watching the trailer. yippee! me can barley wait!!! :D

[Mr_Beaver]

I have seen two trailers until now:

The first with the song, and the second that is longer without song yesterday. (With a Danish dubbed chocolate factory!)

[inkspot]

So what did you think? Johnny Depp is going to be very cool, right?

[Dragon]

The oopa-loompas sing in the movie because they sing in the books. I just hope they sing the actual songs from the books, because they have such twisted, wacky lyrics, instead of making up some dumb "doompa de doo" thing for them like in the old musical.
They do! They do! I just got the soundtrack, and it has the oompa loompa songs and they rock! They're with the original Roald Dahl lyrics from the book (though slightly shortened) and they are actually catchy tunes very much UNlike the doompa de-doo from the musical.

[inkspot]

They're with the original Roald Dahl lyrics from the book (though slightly shortened) and they are actually catchy tunes very much UNlike the doompa de-doo from the musical.
Oh, sweet!!! :p
I liked the old movie okay, but those hideous songs the Oompas sang were terrible.

[waterhogboy]

I went to a primary school today, and went past a classroom where they were watching the original movie. I heard those lovely Oompa-Loompas singing, and me and my other 17 year old friends started singing along... you cant say theyre not catchy - we hadnt heard em for years!

[inkspot]

No one can resist singing along ...
Ooompa Loompa do bi dee doo...
But that does not mean the songs are good. Consider:
Cat -- I'm a kitty cat
Cat -- I'm a kitty cat

Look at Dragon's new avi! Whee!

[Dufflepud]

When I was young I loved the book (not the movie). I'm so glad this one will be like the book! :D

If anyone interested here's a link to some clips from it.
http://iesb.net/wb2005/062905.php

[Dragon]

just got back from seeing it. It was very great. Charlie was perfect. And Wonka was hilarious. I was really impressed and slightly surprised at the ending.

...more on the movie later

[tgraveline]

yay a good review. Now i just need to get back from the states or see it possibly in london on the last leg of the trip.

tg

[Dragon]

OK, I read a sort of disturbing review for this movie at IGN. It seemed to give it a good review, but they admitted to having not read the book. The actual purpose was to compare it to 1971's "Willy Wonka" musical. OK, that's not too bad, but what I didn't like was some of the concluding remarks.

"The 1971 film is a classic and must be given its just-do. It was a revolutionary film for its time and it holds up incredibly well today. To be fair, Burton's film could never exist without Stuart's film before it. Burton references the look of the Stuart film heavily."

First of all, I don't know if I would call the '71 film an incredible breakthrough that holds up incredibly. I know a lot of people who can't stand the movie but loved the book. But that's beside the point; there are a lot of movies like that.

What really bugs me is what the reviewer implies about the imagination of Tim Burton. I didn't think the look particularly referenced the previous film (which Tim Burton himself admits he did not like); rather, the look of the film references the writing of the creater of the story, Roald Dahl. Plus, come on! This is the Tim Burton. He is the standard by which movie reviewers compare any whimsical look. He has a look completely his own. "Edward Scissorhands," "Nightmare Before Christmas," "Big Fish," and dozens and dozens other movies that show just as much imagination as his "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."

Tim Burton has a look all his own. I strongly believe that if Mel Stuart had not made his loose interpretation which he called "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory," Tim Burton would still have done just as great a job at "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" as he did.

...OK. That's off my chest. Now to go to the "1000 signs your addicted to Narniafans" thread and see if it's had any action in the last few minutes.

[holyboy]

The 1971 Willi Wonka film was a sham that was intended to sell chocolate.

The reason the name was changed from Charlie to Willi Wonka was to promote a new chocolate bar called The Wonka Bar that was stratigicly (sp) going to come out after the film. The reason for the film was to sell the chocolate. When the movie was a hit, it was a complete coincidence. The producer (i think it was) even told, on the Willi Wonka DVD interview, that the movie was made to promote the chocolate bar. How cheap is that?

[inkspot]

Yah, I am surprised anyone who had a review published would not have read the book and would compare the Burton effort to the Gene Wilder film which was an okay kids movie at the time ... but, come on!

Can't wait to see it! Hope I can get our daughters to go today!

Thanks for the review, Dragon.

[borntofly]

hoo-rizzzzz-ay!!!! I loved this movie!!! but it gets ruined if you compare it to the old one, it's good in a different way. Johnny Depp was HIGH-LARI-OUS!!!!!!!!!

[Bitter Milton]

Can you say, Bizarre????

IT WAS GREAT!

[Monkeh]

Man. This movie doesn't come out in New Zealand until September :(. I can't wait lol.

[Sunrise]

I have to give an opposing viewpoint, unfortunately. SPOILERS AHEAD, so be forewarned.

I LOVE the book. I can practically quote whole sections of dialogue. When I heard that a film was being made that would be more true to the text, I was really excited. Maybe too excited. I set myself up for dissapointment.

The visuals were gorgeous, yes. Nobody does surrealistic landscapes like Tim Burton. And Freddie Highmore was brilliant, of course. I loved everything up to the point of entering the factory.

The critics have made much of the macabre Tim Burton being the perfect choice to capture the wacky creepiness of the original text, but I personally think his approach was all wrong. The way he had Wonka portrayed just ruined the film for me. Here's the problem in a nutshell:

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
READ NO FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE FILM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Depp's Wonka was moody, depressed, unapproachable, nervous, and psychologically wounded. You are given a silly and unnecessary backstory about his dysfunctional childhood with his dentist father - a contrived and nauseating plot device used to drum up some kind of moralistic "family" theme for the film, which the story doesn't need. It takes away all of Wonka's mystery and turns him into a lonely, sad, twisted personality, malicious and unlikable. Yeah, the weirdness and eccentricities of the character are there, but all the psychoanalyzing makes them annoying rather than funny. Burton tries to make us understand a character that Dahl never meant for us to understand.

Dahl's Wonka is the antithesis of Depp's depressed portrayal. In the book, Wonka is a fireball of energetic joy; unpredictable and mysterious, he exudes the confidence of a man fully in control of his own private world - a world he created not out of some Neverland-complex of escapism but simply because he WANTED to. That's what makes him so appealing to kids - he's an adult who deliberately and delightfully behaves like a child, saying and doing the things they would love to be saying and doing to the adults around them, and living in a world of his own imagination. The book Wonka is, indeed, creepy - not from maliciousness, but from his inability to express anything but manic glee, even when catastrophes are befalling his guests. You get the impression that the seeming chaos of his world belies an underlying order kept in complete control by the whizzing mind of its creator. Warmth and optimism pervades the story even in its darkest moments. There was none of either in this film - at least, where Wonka was concerned.

I just feel like Burton took the heart out of the story. The movie is all weirdness and no warmth. I wanted so badly to love this film, it hurts to say all this. But just my honest opinion.

[borntofly]

I just feel like Burton took the heart out of the story. The movie is all weirdness and no warmth. I wanted so badly to love this film, it hurts to say all this. But just my honest opinion.
I know what you mean, Wonka wasn't Wonka. I still thought Johnny Depp was hilarious, but the end was twisted, it just wasn't right. I was frustrated in that aspect, the biggest change Tim Burton made was Wonka, and because of the changes he made to Wonka, about his past and such, the rest of the movie had to be changed. They made Wonka seem prejudice to parents, and not happy to see the children. The way he greeted the childeren frustrated me.

I enjoyed the movie even though it wasn't the same as the book. It had some witty remarks in it which I thought were funny.

[Sunrise]

I know what you mean, Wonka wasn't Wonka. I still thought Johnny Depp was hilarious, but the end was twisted, it just wasn't right. I was frustrated in that aspect, the biggest change Tim Burton made was Wonka, and because of the changes he made to Wonka, about his past and such, the rest of the movie had to be changed. They made Wonka seem prejudice to parents, and not happy to see the children. The way he greeted the childeren frustrated me.

I enjoyed the movie even though it wasn't the same as the book. It had some witty remarks in it which I thought were funny.

Yeah, I did chuckle at Wonka's "cannibalism" lecture. ;)

[i_am_puddleglum]

I saw it this past Sunday on the IMAX screen.....with the exception of my youth group sittin' one row off from being PRACTICALLY in front of the screen, I LOVED IT!

Yeah---Johnny was a bit freakish, but I enjoy the music---in fact, I'm stupid but I'm sittin' @ our library in the county and listening to the sampler of the soundtrack......The music by Elfman never seems to brighten my day. I will say this much--Children under ten really should be advised. I found certain things that may bother them. However, the humor is so much better than the original!!!! I found it interesting that Elfman is a genius once more--he applied each of the songs that fit the children perfectly....The gag by using "THE BEATLES" for Veruca was brilliantly planned. I will give this movie a good thumbs up, esp. if you are a Tim Burton/Danny Elfman/Johnny Depp trio fan.

Gabie/Amye

[Dragon]

did you notice that Danny Elfman did the vocals for all the oompa loompas? and for the "Willy Wonka Welcome" song?

[i_am_puddleglum]

did you notice that Danny Elfman did the vocals for all the oompa loompas? and for the "Willy Wonka Welcome" song?


Yes, I did!!!! I was laughing the whole entire time in my head when we left the IMAX theater. That's a LOT for him to do that........But as I've said before, Elfman is-------((STEALIN' A PHRASE FROM THE MOVIE)) "WOW!"

:D Amye :D

[borntofly]

I saw it for the second time, this morning before I went to volleyball, and it made my day. I'm such a dork I was laughing my head off at practice and I got some strange looks. This time I paid more attention to the oopma loompas and their songs. Veruca's song is by far my favorite! I'm glad the songs were so close to the book to. I like Elfman.

[i_am_puddleglum]

Ditto...I totally agree about the Elfman statement---he is AWESOME

[inkspot]

Got to love the Elf-Man!

[i_am_puddleglum]

WOOT WOOT so very tru

[tgraveline]

ok, just saw this in london, by the way thats totally not cool. It cost like eleven frickin pounds plus and thats for the crappy seats. Yeah i'm upset about that. Anyways, loved the movie though, need to see it at home or something though, so i'll buy it, lol.

tg

[Monkeh]

Still waiting to see this. Might end up seeing it while I'm in aussie. Who knows.

[waterhogboy]

ok, just saw this in london, by the way thats totally not cool. It cost like eleven frickin pounds plus and thats for the crappy seats. Yeah i'm upset about that. Anyways, loved the movie though, need to see it at home or something though, so i'll buy it, lol.

tg

£11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man - what cinema did you go to!?!?

I went to see it last Fri, and thought it were alright - but really just a remake of the original. However!!! I have a famous connection from that film!

My dad has had tea with the guy who played Veruca's dad - he used to go to a church in Leeds. He's called James Fox I think.

[tgraveline]

some frickin odeon one, it was the only one we found that had the movie. I felt torn apart by that deal. Could have bought four dvds for that price.

tg

[waterhogboy]

Mam - what a rip off!!!! Stupid London and its stupid prices!!!

[unleavened]

Has anyone read the book? (If you haven't, count it as a blessing. If you have, it's ok, God can help you start afresh.)

[Dragon]

I saw the book at the store and flipped through it, really considering buying it. It's amazing how much closer the new movie is to the book than the "original" movie. (even down to Grandpa Joe telling the story of the Indian prince.) I still may go buy the book when I get money again. Though from your post, it seems you don't have high thoughts about it. Ah well. Different people have different likes.

[unleavened]

Very true. Some of my friends really like it and I sense that I'm in the minority in my dislike for the movies.

[waterhogboy]

S'a bit off subject, but I saw Finding Neverland last week and thought Mr. Depp was brilliant. I also thought the movie was amazing and, although I'm terribly embarrassed to admit it, I had to do the bite your lip REALLY hard so that you dont start blabbing thing..... :o

[holyboy]

I missed the beginning of Finding Neverland, but from what I saw, I thought the movie was great! Johnny Depp was perfect in the movie, and the kids did a really good job acting. I would buy that movie if I had the money... :(

[inkspot]

Hello! I saw Wonka on vacation and loved it!!! I also saw Finding NeverLand on DVD and loved that. Johnny Depp is wonderful. I started my family playing the "Corrupt a Wish Game," and when I wished Johnny Depp were my nextdoor neighbor, they said, "Granted, but he can't stand you!" Ouch!!!

I have read both Wonka books, and both are brilliant. Roald Dahl was a fabulous author, in my opinion.

[she-elfwarrior19]

i have see CCF 2 twice in theatres, its so funny

[inkspot]

I want to see it again, but my husband won't go! I took the kids while we were on vacation, but now they are too busy, plus they can't risk going with me to the movies when we are back in their hometown, what if their friends see them? I feel like being old and married to their dad = black plague in their minds ...

[borntofly]

I'll go with you inkspot!!!

[inkspot]

I'll go with you inkspot!!!
Why, thank you! You could be taking a big risk, plague and all ...

[borntofly]

I don't care if I get the plague:D! Its not taht contagious right?!

[inkspot]

I don't care if I get the plague:D! Its not taht contagious right?!
LOL, not that bad ... it only wiped out two-thirds of Europe.

[borntofly]

I'm immune to it. (is that right?)

[waterhogboy]

Hmmmm... just watch out for the buboes!!

[she-elfwarrior19]

how mant times have you seen it inkspot? i thought it was great,i was lauhging so many times.

[inkspot]

I have only seen it once, but I want to go again before it leaves the cinemas. I may have to go by myself if everyone is so petrified of buboes that they won't go with me. I found it to be very hysterical.

[waterhogboy]

Awwww Inky! Come to Britain, rather than being frowned upon, buboes are generally found quite acceptable! Come see it one of our rip off cinemas!!

[inkspot]

Come see it one of our rip off cinemas!!
What is a rip-off cinema?
Is it like the dollar cinema? When movies get old here, before they leave the silver screen entirely they are bounced to the dollar cinema where you can see it in crummy surroundings for a single dollar. This is how I saw "Raiders of the Lost Ark" for about 60 consecutive nights during my mis-spent youth.

[waterhogboy]

No - rip off means outrageously charged, like what tg went to in London. Man - i gotta learn to speak American!

[holyboy]

Just learn Canadian. Its American dignified and politer ;)

[inkspot]

No - rip off means outrageously charged, like what tg went to in London. Man - i gotta learn to speak American!
No, you did fine, rip-off means the same thing. I just didn't understand the spirit in which it was said, but I should have known -- the pound is worth so much more than the dollar. Lucky you!

[Thanatos]

I loved this movie. It was soo cool.

[inkspot]

Willie Wonka, Willie Wonka
The amazing chocolatier!
Willie Wonka, Willie Wonka
Everybody give a cheer!

[Thanatos]

My friend is giving me the Soundtrack...hehe i cant wait!! >.<

[inkspot]

My friend is giving me the Soundtrack...hehe i cant wait!! >.<
That is sweet!

[pegasus62]

I can't believe why any one of you would like the new Willy Wonka movie. Are you all insane?!!! Johnny Depp is in no comparision to the other man...What's his name, again?.....Anyway, how you could like that white-faced actor I can't imagine. He's extremly creepy, not to mention his "Willy Wonka" theme song. You know they came out with a toy of him that moves, speaks, etc., but it's $40.00!!! WHAT KID WOULD WANT THAT THING?!!! :eek:

[Monkeh]

I could say the same thing about the first one. Firstly it is a musical. Secondly, it doesn't really follow the book all that much, Hence Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory versus Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Thirdly, Depp is sooo much better in this role than Gene Wilder. Willy Wonka is supposed to be a strange reclusive man who doesn't like people. Gene Wilder looked like he liked everyone to much. Depp didn't.

[inkspot]

I can't believe why any one of you would like the new Willy Wonka movie. Are you all insane?!!! Johnny Depp is in no comparision to the other man...What's his name, again?.....Anyway, how you could like that white-faced actor I can't imagine. He's extremly creepy, not to mention his "Willy Wonka" theme song. You know they came out with a toy of him that moves, speaks, etc., but it's $40.00!!! WHAT KID WOULD WANT THAT THING?!!! :eek:
LOL! My kids love Johnny Depp! (I do, too.) They would die for a talking Depp figurine. They couldn't stop saying, "Heh - you're weird!" for about a week after the movie. I guess this Wonka's subtle allure is not evident to everyone ...

Gene Wilder was a great Wonka, but Monkeh is right, this new movie is based on the book, not on the old movie. I think it worked well.

[borntofly]

Thirdly, Depp is sooo much better in this role than Gene Wilder. Willy Wonka is supposed to be a strange reclusive man who doesn't like people. Gene Wilder looked like he liked everyone to much. Depp didn't. Well they way Gene Wylder greeted the kids was alot closer to the book. Willy Wonka was supposed to be a nice man and he was also crazy. A mixture of both Gene Wylder and JOhnny Depp would be totally awesome!

Gene Wylder was kind of like a Johnny Depp for his time.

[unleavened]

I never thought Gene Wylder acted like he liked people. That's part of the reason I hated that movie. I didn' think the guy in to book was very nice either, but I read that years ago.

[pegasus62]

Sorry, Monkeh and Inkspot, I still have to disagree with you both. The new Willy Wonka movie just doesn't seem to match the lighter, funnier mood of the first. I can't believe why your kids liked the new movie so much, Inkspot. Yes, Johnny Depp is a fairly 'intresting' actor to watch, but he isn't the right person for Willy Wonka.

[inkspot]

Depp is just very, very ... cool :o

[pegasus62]

I still think he's not good for that part!

[Elendil]

Depp is just very, very ... cool :o

Cool??? More like very, very...WEIRD and STRANGE

[inkspot]

Cool??? More like very, very...WEIRD and STRANGE
That's true, too! Have you seen "Finding NeverLand"? He's semi-normal and very sweet in that.

[pegasus62]

Yes, he does play a good charecter in Finding Neverland. I think he was great for that part.

[inkspot]

Yes, he does play a good charecter in Finding Neverland. I think he was great for that part.
I agree -- he's a fine actor.

[pegasus62]

However...I have to hold my ground-he is NOT good for Willy Wonka!

[Elendil]

However...I have to hold my ground-he is NOT good for Willy Wonka!
Right on perasus.

[inkspot]

No, no, no, he is very good for Willy Wonka.

Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka, the amazing chocolatier ...

[Elendil]

No!
Ten thingy

[inkspot]

Yes!
10thingy

(Uh-oh, we are turning into duffers!) :p

[pegasus62]

No, no, no, he is very good for Willy Wonka.

Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka, the amazing chocolatier ...

PLEASE don't 'sing' that! It drives me insane! I'll NEVER think of him good for that movie. Never.

[inkspot]

Sorry :(
I'll just hum it quietly to myself ...
hm hm hm hmm...

[Elendil]

No!!! He's no good for that part, he never was and he never will be!!!

[glamel]

hah!, johnny's good in this film, i love his teeth! :D

but i kinda doesnt like the movie, maybe a little, but im a little disappointed, i expect something better! but anyways, it is really for kids only! hehehe! :D
[DONT BE OFFENDED GUYS & GALS!] :D

[inkspot]

Hurray, Glamel!
Those teeth were lovely. :p

[glamel]

yup, what a teeth!!! :D
johnny's great!! :)

[pegasus62]

Please, glamel, don't be fooled by his teeth of all things! He's NOT good!

[inkspot]

Those weren't even his teeth! They put caps on them to make them look like the perfect teeth. But nonetheless, Johnny Depp is very, very good. What a great actor, and a nice looking young man. Pirates of the Caribbean? he was awesome! Finding NeverLand? Awesome! Willie Wonka? Awesome! Edward Scissorhands, wasn't that a baby Johnny Depp? Awesome!

Willie Wonka! Willie Wonka — the Amazing Chocolatier!
Willie Wonka! Willie Wonka! Everybody give a cheer!

[glamel]

yup, that was him,
and ur right, definitely, he was cool in the pirates with Orlando bloom of course!!:D

[borntofly]

Johnny was cooler in that movie than Orlando glamel!

I wish I had teeth like his...

[inkspot]

I wish I had teeth like his...
LOL! Those teeth! :D

[borntofly]

I will have those teeth one day. You know there is that thing where you can have your favorite actor's smile. I wonder if they would make me a Wonka smile.

oh yeah and this movie comes out on DVD on the 8th! Non-stop rewinding, pausing, and fast-forwarding! I wonder how long it'll last before I grow weary of it.

[inkspot]

Hoo-ha! The kids will go nuts with it --
You're weird!
You're weird!
You're weird!
You're weird!

I'll stop before I become a duffer, but you get the idea. :D

[borntofly]

Yup!You're REALLY wierd!

[pegasus62]

I will have those teeth one day. You know there is that thing where you can have your favorite actor's smile. I wonder if they would make me a Wonka smile.

oh yeah and this movie comes out on DVD on the 8th! Non-stop rewinding, pausing, and fast-forwarding! I wonder how long it'll last before I grow weary of it.

I'm guessing you are very excited by now, inkspot, since it's coming out. I'm not, however much you want to convince me that it's the best movie out there at the time. I will forever disagree that he is good for Willy Wonka!

[inkspot]

Oh, it's not the best movie of all time, by any means.

But Johnny Depp is a fine Willy Wonka! :p
Watch the DVD 15 times. It will grow on you.

[borntofly]

Yeah it may grow on you...you'll grow violet hair and wear wierd gloves.

[sweetpumpkin87]

the movie just does not grow on you, you either have to love it or hate it , i loved the movie i took my 6 year sister to it and thought i wasn't going to like it that much, she didn't really like it i ended up likeing it more

[inkspot]

Yeah it may grow on you...you'll grow violet hair and wear wierd gloves.
LOL!

Maybe Pumpkin is right and you either like it or you don't ...

[borntofly]

Yeah, Pumpkin is right, but how could you not laugh and love at such an outrageous movie?! It's just so...so silly! Chewing gum is really gross, chewing gum I hate the most!

I know all of the Oompa Loompa songs by heart now, and I can dance to them. :o *sings* "Augustus Gloop, Augustus Gloop..." Wow, I am such a nerd...

[inkspot]

Yeah, Pumpkin is right, but how could you not laugh and love at such an outrageous movie?! It's just so...so silly! Chewing gum is really gross, chewing gum I hate the most!.
I know, I totally agree! :) :p :D

[pegasus62]

Oh, it's not the best movie of all time, by any means.

But Johnny Depp is a fine Willy Wonka! :p
Watch the DVD 15 times. It will grow on you.

I'm not so sure about that. However many times I see his performance, I will NOT think of him as any better, sorry.

[Eve'sDaughter]

The movie was weird. It just freaked me out in most of the places. But that's just my opinion. I like the old one better I think. Just because the oompa loompas were different people and not all one person. The songs in the new one were.....interesting..... ^_~

[QueenLucy07]

I went and saw that for my 16th birthday, it was really good.

[Darth_Digger]

Im sorry to everyone who enjoyed it, but I think it must have been one of the worst films i've ever seen!

DD

[inkspot]

Im sorry to everyone who enjoyed it, but I think it must have been one of the worst films i've ever seen!

DD
Surely not! It is a riot. :D

[pegasus62]

Im sorry to everyone who enjoyed it, but I think it must have been one of the worst films i've ever seen!

DD

I have a strong agreemment with you, Darth Digger! ;)

[borntofly]

In LWW, Grinnabrik was played by the same dude who played all the Oompa Loompas. THAT was realy weird, I couldn't help but hear all of those awesome songs any time he entered the scene. He was humerous, but almost so much so that he wasn't scary.

[sukapesta]

yeah the new oompa loompas creep me out (i discussed this with the TA of my film class and she hated the new oompa loompas too)

and actually deep roy played the oompa loompas while ginarrbrik was kiran shah...

but overall i love the film i thought it was genius... (something to do with the fact that i WORSHIP tim burton i guess)

[crjr9833]

I liked everything about that movie, except Willy Wonka, but he was alright. He was kinda weird, but grows he you after while. Its just not the same character as the one it the book(s).

Great movie though in my opinion. 8/10

[Namaste]

I'm not a fan of the new one, I like the old one better. Gene Wilder rocks as Willy Wonka, I also loved him as the Fox in 'The Little Prince'.

[pegasus62]

In LWW, Grinnabrik was played by the same dude who played all the Oompa Loompas. THAT was realy weird, I couldn't help but hear all of those awesome songs any time he entered the scene. He was humerous, but almost so much so that he wasn't scary.

NOT a surprise! :D That is really odd. How could the same whip-carrying, angry little dwarf from LWW be a supposedly 'cute' Oompa Loompa on Willy Wonka? Very....hmmm...odd...(I couldn't help laughing a little as I read your post borntofly...) Say no to the new Wonka movie, everyone! (Mostly, to rile up Inkspot who thinks it's so great.) :D

[inkspot]

But it's not the same guy, right?

[Firepower]

But it's not the same guy, right?

Yeah, the actor who played in The Chrinicles of Narnia was also a oompa loompa. His name is Deep Roy.

I thought this movie was ok. Some of the songs were funny, and I think it was closer to the original book compaired to the first Willy Wonka movie. But I think the real problems with this movie was Willy Wonka. He was just too weird. Some of the other characters were different too, like Mike TV. I think the first movie is still much better.

[Siren]

Deep Roy was not in Narnia. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746989/

[Firepower]

Deep Roy was not in Narnia. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746989/

Ok, I think your right. I don't know why I thought that Deep Roy was in the new Narnia movie. I think the actor was Kiran Shah.

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

Charlie and the glass elavator(I didn't read any of the previous posts, i just noe by the title) :p

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

ok. now i did and it's about narnia and ginabrik the dwarf, I thought they were the same but no, deep roy wasn't in narnia, the dude that was in narnia was in the temple of doom(indiana jones) :eek: they luk the same though, voice, since, everything! they're clones! jks! :p

[Kate12whisper13]

I guess it was OK! Anna-Sophia Robb and Julia Winter sure can act like pure brats!

[inkspot]

Okay, thanks for the info on the dwarf/oompa loompa. They do look a lot alike! Freaky.

Kate, you are right, there were some bratty people in that film. But that little boy who played Charlie, he was adorable and would make a good Shasta if they film HHB quickly.

[QA48]

Okay, thanks for the info on the dwarf/oompa loompa. They do look a lot alike! Freaky.

Kate, you are right, there were some bratty people in that film. But that little boy who played Charlie, he was adorable and would make a good Shasta if they film HHB quickly.

I actually think that the boy who played charlie could make a good shasta.

[Aravis Kenobi]

I finished watching the movie about five to ten minutes ago, and though it wasn't my all time favorite, Johnny Depp was amazing and funny! The movie itself didn't make much sense.

[MRS._William_Moseley]

Go Wonka....I was just talking about that today...weird :rolleyes: :rolleyes: