"THE PATRIOT"

[NARNIANKNIGHT]

Does anyone like ''The Patriot''. It's a good movie I like it let me know :) :D

[TimmyofOz]

Does anyone like ''The Patriot''. It's a good movie I like it let me know :) :D
If you mean the Mel Gibson movie of a few years back, yes I loved it. It wasn't quite a fantasy (more like historical fiction) so this thread should be in the "Woods between the Worlds" forum about movies. :)

[NARNIANKNIGHT]

Who likes the "THE PATRIOT" that Mel Gibson was in. The best part is when "THE GOAST" saves Gabriel I thought that was a cool part along with the Battle. They did a good job making it. It looks so real. Not to say that LWW didn't they did a good job as well. Let me know if you have seen it.



(Mel Gibson) God save king George :) I think we came to the right place. :D

[rosymole]

I'm merging this thread with the other Patriot one...keeping the place neat and sweet!

[CSLewisFan]

Sure, it's a great movie, I actually own it. :)

-Austin

[NARNIANKNIGHT]

Sure, it's a great movie, I actually own it. :)

-Austin
Yes I own it too but we don't watch it a hole lot :)

[SK21]

It's a good film but why is it that a few of Mel Gibson's films have been against the british and mostly the other side winning, for example Braveheart (Brilliant film) where the Scottish rise up, yes it happened but Hollywood seems to once again seem like changing history slightly.

The Patriot is exactly the same. I think they're both good movies but his films seem to have a way of portraying the British as evil.

[onlymystory]

The Patriot is a good movie when I look it at just as a movie but its so screwed up historically. Tarleton was not that bad of a guy. (nasty yes, but not at that level) Mel Gibson really likes to twist history and I agree make the Brits look bad. And its not like most colonists wanted the war. they were against it. But hey, that's why i'm going into the career I am, so I can change this stuff.

[Danny]

I love "The Patriot", and "Braveheart".
I see what you mean about the whole "British" thing, though. Though I must say, I'm British myself and don't consider it to be too much of an issue. :rolleyes:
Wasn't Braveheart historically inaccurate as well? Wallace was quite a savage himself in reality...

[crjr9833]

"The Patriot" is a great movie!

[Wills_dream_Gf]

When I first bought (well my mom got it for me) the movie I watched it everyday for two whole weeks! I have watched the entire movie 15 times, and each time was wonderful! They even filmed the movie in my state, and there was a four-month shoot in city! I wish I actually cared about the movie when they were filming it, because I wanted to try out. Unfortunately I was too young to care.

*If anyone owns the actual DVD, you can read the inside of the paper that shows the Scene Selections inside the DVD...w/e it's called, and it talks about my state a bit.

[Kayla_15]

The Partiot is an awesome movie.it is also so sad!

[Wills_dream_Gf]

Did anyone cry for that susan/mel g. part?

[Kitanna]

Ah the Patriot, I like it enough, but it kind of makes me angry. I'm such a history nerd and I hate when movies are inaccurate. So while I like to watch this movie every so often more than once a year kind of boils my blood to see all that is wrong historically. I'd give examples, but it's been almost a year since I watched it last.
However John Williams did the music (love JW so much!) and I remember that is wonderful.
Mel Gibson really likes to twist history and I agree make the Brits look bad. And its not like most colonists wanted the war. they were against it.
That he does, Braveheart really just kind of spits on the story of William Wallace.

But fun story about the filming of The Patriot, the camp scenes were filmed about five minutes away from my aunt's house at the local YMCA. She went to a filming day and missed Mel Gibson by five minutes,

[xovermyheadx]

Ahh. I love this movie so much

[Afton]

im crazy about that movie,ecept Gabriel had to die!!!! :( *sobbing*Anyway it was great!! :p

[xovermyheadx]

im crazy about that movie,ecept Gabriel had to die!!!! :( *sobbing*Anyway it was great!! :p
seriously. I was like crying. cos i was obsessed with heath ledger :p

[Afton]

seriously. I was like crying. cos i was obsessed with heath ledger :p
i know*crying,sniff,sniff* :(

[xovermyheadx]

i know*crying,sniff,sniff* :(
ahaha. yeah.

he did a great dying scene

[Afton]

oh i know when he died i was like ''he's not dead,he's not daed''...but he was :( good thing its only acting! :p

[Wings of Vanity]

oh i know when he died i was like ''he's not dead,he's not daed''...but he was :( good thing its only acting! :p
quite sad moment for the movie...I own it because of my father but I also watched in in my American Gov't class haha- It was a fab break from the work load!

[NARNIANKNIGHT]

It was a sad part. Thats war.

Gabe

[abbyluvswilliam]

I love this movie! It's quite sad, but it is such a good story!
I just watched it a few months ago(the Directors cut)

[Darth Sparhawk]

Way too gory, IMO, but good movie. Jason Isaacs was chilling.

[abbyluvswilliam]

Oh. Jason Issac's was really good at being bad. I don't know how many times i wanted to go in the T.V and kill him!

[Silvanus]

Oh, I loved this movie. John Williams did an awesome job on the music.

[abbyluvswilliam]

I haven't really played attention to the score before..haha that rhymed!

[pink-cheetah]

I've seen the movie. It's good, but really bloody. I had to look away when Mel Gibson was swinging axes into British soldiers' stomachs or I'm sure I would've puked! ;)

I loved the little ink joke that Heath Ledger had with his girlfriend. Lol.

[Copperfox]

It is truly a superb movie. Every time Mr. Gibson has done a major film that is NOT politically correct, Hollywood seems to have demanded that he then do something that IS politically correct to "make up for it." Thus his movie "What Women Want," which not only had a heavy feminist theme, but gave him as his co-star the extremely p.c. actress Helen Hunt. (It may be that his friendship with Danny Glover, who never met a Communist dictator he didn't like, constitutes part of the pressure on Mr. Gibson to bow before the p.c. idol.)

But poor Mr. Gibson is plagued by more than the cinema establishment. He is subject to evil influence from both left AND right. He seems to have a frightfully stupid father who filled his head with wicked nonsense, obviously including antisemitism. I wrote a letter to him, describing how Jonathan in the Old Testament did honor his father, but REFUSED to approve of or join in his father's wrongdoing. I don't imagine Mr. Gibson ever saw it, but I had to try. His actions in making "The Passion of the Christ" convince me that he was consciously trying to put the antisemitism behind him once and for all; but Satan would, and certainly did, exert all the influence he could, Jesus rebuke him, to pull Mr. Gibson down and keep him down.

Concerning the musical score of "The Patriot": on the day I married my second wife, I played the title theme on a CD player (both the sweet part and the rah-rah-let's-kill-those-bad-guys part) as a prelude for the ceremony, because the music had acquired a deeply personal meaning for me. It is, after all, music which portrays (1) a military man who (2) has lost his first wife to death, (3) endures heartbreaking unjust rejection from his daughter, but finally sees her come to her senses, and (4) finds love again.

For Kitanna let me add: Yes, I know "The Patriot" was heavily fictionalized. You need only know that the historical hero in that situation was named Francis Marion, not Benjamin Martin, to understand that accurate history is not being shown here. But I think Mr. Gibson was going by the principle that "Extremes move the center." That is, by overinflating the good-vs.-evil conflict in the Revolutionary War, he hoped to throw a counterweight against the _highly_ overinflated modern foolishness that says everything can be settled by negotiation. (It can't. No matter what Terry Pratchett says, sometimes one side deserves to lose and needs to lose.) As for "Braveheart," I believe it to have been much truer to the "spirit" of the events than to the details. The one thing that seriously bothered me was Wallace's affair with the French princess, who in real life never met him at all. Writer Randall Wallace has a fascination with heroes getting to have sex with married women of royal blood; he returned to this in "The Man in the Iron Mask."

Are you aware that Disney made a TV movie called "The Swamp Fox" long ago, about the actual Francis Marion? I'm not sure after all these years, but I think one thing in Mel Gibson's version that _does_ reflect the real Francis Marion's career is the hero losing a son in battle.

[Afton]

Concerning the musical score of "The Patriot": on the day I married my second wife, I played the title theme on a CD player (both the sweet part and the rah-rah-let's-kill-those-bad-guys part) as a prelude for the ceremony, because the music had acquired a deeply personal meaning for me. It is, after all, music which portrays (1) a military man who (2) has lost his first wife to death, (3) endures heartbreaking unjust rejection from his daughter, but finally sees her come to her senses, and (4) finds love again.

Wow. Thats really amazing. Hey by the way you have been married....1 year is it?

[Copperfox]

Thank you for asking, Shiloh. Mary and I were married for 25 years plus a couple of months. Janalee and I celebrated our first anniversary last October.

Janalee, with her then husband Rich, was present at my wedding to Mary in 1979. (Jan later abandoned Rich without good cause, to find herself going through severe chastisement by God, leading to her ultimate forgiveness and marrying me. At least, I don't _think_ being married to me is a punishment for Jan!) Ironically, when Mary and I were being congratulated by people after the ceremony, Jan looked at me and said, "I'm not going to kiss you." Many years later, upon becoming involved with Jan after Mary had crossed over to glory, I reminded her--between kisses--of what she had said that day.

Which takes us back to "The Patriot." There IS awkwardness to overcome when marrying someone who lost a loved first spouse to death. Charlotte in the movie is well aware of this, and is at once helped AND hindered by the fact of being that first wife's sister. Helped, because the kinship makes it the most natural thing in the world in the children's view that if their mother has to be gone their aunt should step in; and hindered, because Charlotte probably felt some attraction to Benjamin even while her sister was living, and so she feels a little guilt about wanting him even though she would never have tried to steal him from her sister.

Jan has had to cope with feeling herself in Mary's shadow. Mary WAS (and therefore still is) a great saint of God, a hard act to follow. Though I never make hurtful comparisons, and I try very hard to make Jan feel that she is loved and valued in her own right, it has taken most of our first year together for Jan to feel fully at ease.


Joseph Ravitts, author of "Southward the Tigers"