Aslan=Jesus... anyone disapointed?

[Archmage_lord]

Hello, this is my first time on the forums and I'm not sure if I'm gonna form my post properly, but be advised that whatever I saw is not intended to insult or flame at anyone.

On to the subject... so far I've read the Magician's Nephew and The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. They're great books, but the christian 'messages' are all too obvious, especially in the later book.

I don't know about you, but my intentions in icking up the Narnia series was to imerse myself in a fantasy world very different from my own. And I DID end up in a fantasy world, but it dosen't feel quite that different, especially with Aslan's whole Jesus/God thing going on. (and there's something about Aslan showing in a form that "isn't that of a lion" in The Last Battle... please don't spoil anything for me)

I can only imagine what non-christian readers are thinking when they read this... Daughters of Eve and Sons of Adams?

[Charn_Tim]

First of all, welcome to the site, Archmage_lord!!

Well, don't worry, I'm sure you have not insulted anyone. You have merely recognized correctly that Lewis has built into the world of Narnia many elements that are symbols of the Christian faith. Being a Christian, of course I appreciate this aspect of the books immensely. Enjoy the rest of the books-I think you can even though you may not agree with the Christian themes in there.

[Aslan the Wise one]

Will Aslan is a symbol of Christ in the Narnia books. Is that what you wnated to know.?

[Charn_Tim]

Will Aslan is a symbol of Christ in the Narnia books. Is that what you wnated to know.?
Um, its pretty clear to me from reading his post that he's picked up on that. He's merely asking what we think about the fact that Aslan=Jesus Christ.

[Aslan the Wise one]

Yes I get that now. I think there is no dount about Aslan being a symbol of christ in the Narnia books.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

For my part, I don't think anyone should be insulted by it any more than anyone should be insulted by the Eastern Dynamism that pervades George Lucas' Star Wars movies. After all, what else would one expect? That's what Lucas believes. Likewise with Narnia - Lewis was a Christian, as was Tolkien. You'd expect their worldview to permeate their works, and it does.

[JesusChristRoxMySox]

Um, its pretty clear to me from reading his post that he's picked up on that. He's merely asking what we think about the fact that Aslan=Jesus Christ.

I'm a Christian, so I LOVE the fact that Aslan=Jesus Christ

[Archmage_lord]

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Wow, I can't beleive I got so many replies on such short notice!

My only concern is that non-christian readers become insulted by the christianity theme of the books. I mean, how's a Jewish or Buddhist going to react when Peter and friends meet Santa Claus, or when the White Witch finds a band of animals having a chrismas dinner?

Again, I don't want to insult anyone, but if Aslan really turns out to be Jesus Christ (like I'm hunching he will) in the last book... I don't know... I pictured Aslan more like a an actual King with freaky powers rather than a godly figure, be it of any religion.

















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Well, don't worry, I'm sure you have not insulted anyone. You have merely recognized correctly that Lewis has built into the world of Narnia many elements that are symbols of the Christian faith. Being a Christian, of course I appreciate this aspect of the books immensely. Enjoy the rest of the books-I think you can even though you may not agree with the Christian themes in there.

Well I'm Christian too, it's just that I wasn't expecting Jesus Christ to be personified by a lion... regardless how amazing lions can be. I know I'm not making sense... I'm just really confused right now :eek: .

[hanguk859]

Well, I just wanted to say this....
I'm sorry for you, but if you want that kind of fantasy world, there's a better one in LOTR, I don't think Tolkien even wanted anyone to look for Christian analogies in his books, and lemme tell you, they're great....if you haven't already read them

and just to let you know, It's been said of Narnia, that's 'it's MORE like the real thing' so, you've actually gotten the point, h/e I'm afraid that you can't change it, unless you wanted to create your own fantasy world, C.S. lewis always said Ink was the cure to human ailments....

I for one am not dissappointed that Aslan=Jesus, I think it's a great comparison, Jesus is frequently described as a lion after all....and did anyone else get the adrenaline rush when Aslan says in the movie, DON'T CITE THE LAWS AT ME, WITCH! I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE WRITTEN! ? I know I did,
anyway, I'll stop rambling... welcome to Narniafans

[Archmage_lord]

Well, I just wanted to say this....
I'm sorry for you, but if you want that kind of fantasy world, there's a better one in LOTR, I don't think Tolkien even wanted anyone to look for Christian analogies in his books, and lemme tell you, they're great....if you haven't already read them


Yes, I know I don't have to power to change anything and honestly I wouldnt if I could. There's no running away from it anyway... Lots of books are published for every famous fantasy novel series explaining the religious themes. If that's what it's gonna take for parents to stop thinking Harry Potter encourages witchcraft, so be it.

Thanks hanguk, my head is more clear now.

[narniarox]

While Your Argument Is Perfectly Logical From A Certain Standpoint There Are Some Factors That You Probably Should Have Payed Attention To: In Wanting To Just Slip Away Into Another World You May Have Been Reading The Books For The Wrong Reasons Because Books Should Be A Fire Escape From The Problems In Your Life Or The Very Lack Of Adventure In Life, Books Are A Way To Gain Knowledge And Wisdom Why I Have Even Met People Who Gained A Sense Of Humor By Spending A Summer Reading! I Have Learned That Everything You Have Done Somehow Shapes Your Life Reading Can Do That If You Love To Read.
When I First Read The Books I Was Dissapointed About That Too. After An Enormous Amount Of Brooding I Finally Reached The Bottom Of My Problem And That Was This: Why On Earth Would This Dissapoint Me? People Read Books For Something To Relate To, A Sympathetic Person So To Speak. I Wanted That World To Be Real Because I Loved It More Than I Felt I Could Possibly Ever Love My Own. In My Young Mind I Assumed That This World Would Have To Be Entirely Different Than My Own. All Of This Was Because Something Was Missin In My Life And It Is In Most People, You Can Read It On The Face Of Any Pedestrian Anywhere. How Could Something Tie Into That World And Also In Our Own? Well Let Me Put It This Way, The Reason That Anyone Can Like Love Or Relate To These Books Would Be Because They Are Originally Rooted In Our World In Our Worlds Problems And By Going There The Characters Find Answers To There Own Problems. The Reason That Was Behind The Writin Of The Books And What Truly Makes It Possibly Real And So Wonderful Is That Jesus And Aslan Represent Hope Love And All That Is Good And Right. And Because Jesus Is Aslan It Does Make The Books Real To An Extent. Lewis Wrote The Books As A Way Of Reaching Children (and Really Anyone) With The Hope And Truth And Light Of Jesus. Lewis Was Terribly Brave To Put That Into A Book , As An Author I Know How Hard That Is. I Hope That Maybe One Day All Of Those Who Are Disappointed Will Be Able To Read The Books Without Feeling That For That Is Truly An Adventure.

[Narnia4ever]

Lewis is a very religious person, so he probably did interperet his faith into the books. I think they are enjoyable for both catholics and non catholics.

[Archmage_lord]

[QUOTE=narniarox][...] And Because Jesus Is Aslan It Does Make The Books Real To An Extent. [...][QUOTE]

By this do you mean Aslan is Jesus' EQUIVILANT in Narnia or are you saying he IS the actual person ("In your world you probably know me as Jesus." or something of the sort) Because that's pretty much my only issue right now...

[Saruman]

***MINOR SPOILER ALERT***

It is so. The children talk with Aslan, and he tells two of them (I think it was Peter and Susan) that they are "too old" to return to Narnia, and he said they would have to get to know him in "their" world (referring, of course, to our world), and that he "went by a different name" in our world. Lewis made it specifically clear (as you will read in other threads) that Aslan is Jesus Christ (even if he doesn't exactly say the name in the Chronicles). He came up with the thought about our Lord existing on a different world in the form of a lion (see inkspot's quotes from C.S. Lewis on the conception of Narnia).

The Chronicles of Narnia were meant to be children's stories and to be enjoyed, but they also contain beautiful messages about beautiful truths in them. The man knew his calling in life, as it should be every Christian's calling: to share the truth about Jesus Christ and the great sacrifice He made for every traitor (or, I should say, all of us).

[mccall454]

The Lion, the witch, and the wardrobe has many representations of the bible. Like how its good vs. evil. and how edmund gets tempted by the White Witch with turkish delight, like how we get tempted to sin..

[Gibby]

Wow, I can't beleive I got so many replies on such short notice!

My only concern is that non-christian readers become insulted by the christianity theme of the books. I mean, how's a Jewish or Buddhist going to react when Peter and friends meet Santa Claus, or when the White Witch finds a band of animals having a chrismas dinner?




...Well I'm Christian too, it's just that I wasn't expecting Jesus Christ to be personified by a lion... regardless how amazing lions can be. I know I'm not making sense... I'm just really confused right now :eek: .

Welcome Archmage!

If non-Christians become insulted by the Christian themes permeated throughout the series, they can simply close the book and put it down.

As far as a lion, see my signature...http://www.narniafans.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

[mccall454]

No. I am not dissapointed at all. I think its wonderful.

[mccall454]

your right. if they have a problem with christianity, then they wont even enjoy the book so it doesn't matter.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Oh, I think it's a stretch to say that someone won't enjoy the book if they're not Christian. Heck, I enjoyed the Star Wars movies even though I'm not a Dynamist (or whatever George Lucas calls himself). They're first and foremost great stories. I think the underlying themes add to the appreciation, but aren't a prerequisite for enjoyment.

[narniarox]

Aslan is supposed to be Jesus in another form from another world, literally. In the Dawn Treader Aslan says that one of the reasons that Lucy and Edmund is that they need to get to know him in another form in their own world. I guess you could say that narnia was created to bring the adventurers from our world to Christ and they were created to help save narnia.

[Charn_Tim]

Hello all. This is just a quote to back up what people have been saying about Aslan = Jesus Christ, literally. C.S. Lewis himself said in writing the CoN series, "what if there was another world besides our own called Narnia and in it was Jesus but there he was called Aslan and he was a lion?" So it's pretty clear what his intentions were regarding Aslan.

[elfjad]

I found that as I read the Chronicles, I was just picking up on the story itself. It's only when I think about it's meanings in depth that I see so many Christian parallels. I think the books are far better when taken out of religious contexts (I know this is a contradiction to what Lewis wrote them for) but I found it was more fanatstical and fun. It also contains many themes that are evident in all religions, and although the Christians parallels are immensely apparent, it doesn't just have to be Christian for the story to keep its meaning and enjoyment. I really didn't care that Asland was meant to represent Jesus - to me, Aslan is Aslan.

[Archmage_lord]

I found that as I read the Chronicles, I was just picking up on the story itself. It's only when I think about it's meanings in depth that I see so many Christian parallels. I think the books are far better when taken out of religious contexts (I know this is a contradiction to what Lewis wrote them for) but I found it was more fanatstical and fun. It also contains many themes that are evident in all religions, and although the Christians parallels are immensely apparent, it doesn't just have to be Christian for the story to keep its meaning and enjoyment. I really didn't care that Asland was meant to represent Jesus - to me, Aslan is Aslan.

Wow... I never thought of it that way until now.

And it's true! I mean, all Alsan says is: "You need to know me in your world under a different form" (or something like that). Sure, we know C.S Lewis meant Jesus Christ in this, but if we remove that part, Aslan could theoretically be anybody. Maybe just a regular human in our world. Heck, he could be Macready for all we know (obviously not likely, this is just an exagerated expression)

[Saruman]

Well, if you want to convince yourself that Aslan is "just anybody," then why did you bother starting this thread in the first place? I'm sorry, but curiosity has got the better of me.

The facts have been laid out before you concerning what C.S. Lewis intended through the character of Aslan. I have no idea what you're all about, but it is strikingly odd, to say the least.

[Archmage_lord]

Well, if you want to convince yourself that Aslan is "just anybody," then why did you bother starting this thread in the first place? I'm sorry, but curiosity has got the better of me.

The facts have been laid out before you concerning what C.S. Lewis intended through the character of Aslan. I have no idea what you're all about, but it is strikingly odd, to say the least.

Quite frankly, I'm don't understand myself either >_< Obviously I'm not convinced Aslan is "just Anybody", C.S Lewis didn't write him that way. It's not like I can go into denial about his intentions with CoN (and why would I?)

I think I'm just trying to understand everyone's point of view right now.

[inkspot]

Quite frankly, I'm don't understand myself either >_< Obviously I'm not convinced Aslan is "just Anybody", C.S Lewis didn't write him that way. It's not like I can go into denial about his intentions with CoN (and why would I?)

I think I'm just trying to understand everyone's point of view right now.
LOL, at least you're honest! There seem to be two schools of thought on this thread:
1. Aslan is Jesus because CS Lewis said so (over and over, to different people, at various times, in addition to the obvious parallels in the books themselves)
2. Aslan is nobody but a fictional character, and CON is just a ripping good yarn -- if you want to find the Bible in the stories, you can, but don't try to cram religion down my throat! (The cramming down the throat thing is popular with people who don't see Aslan as Jesus.)

[narniarox]

if your trying to figure out everybody else's point of view maybe you should state ( or figure out your ) own. what's important is your view, you, after all, did start this thread.

[inkspot]

if your trying to figure out everybody else's point of view maybe you should state ( or figure out your ) own. what's important is your view, you, after all, did start this thread.
No, it's okay. If you are still forming your opinion, you can ask others what they think on the subject ... It's good.

[daughter-of-eve]

The Aslan in the movie disappointed me only when he decided to jump on the Witch and kill her. I don't believe Jesus would go and do something like that. Jesus shows forgiveness, not murder.

I guess it gave a vague reference to Aslan killing the Witch in this way in the book, but it didn't spell it out, that Aslan ate the Witch. But then again, it is what Hollywood wants and Hollywood wants that kind of stuff.

[sailndwntrder]

Well, considering that C.S.Lewis's other books were Christian books (such as Mere Christianity and The Screwtape Letters ) it makes sense that he incorporated Christian themes in these books.

But, he also said that he felt his books would still be read by non-Christians because of the fantasy aspect. Sure, Aslan = Jesus is obvious, especially in the Lion, the WItch, and the Wardrobe but that shouldn't stop you from reading the rest of the books if you are not a Christian. In fact, the reason he came back in the book, was because of a "deeper magic from before the dawn of time" not because he is the son of God.

I think there is enough symbolism to intrigue Christians (the more you look into the books, the more you will find) but enough pure fantasy for non-Christians, and it is pretty easy to ignore the smaller symbols if you want to.

[Archmage_lord]

But, he also said that he felt his books would still be read by non-Christians because of the fantasy aspect. Sure, Aslan = Jesus is obvious, especially in the Lion, the WItch, and the Wardrobe but that shouldn't stop you from reading the rest of the books if you are not a Christian. In fact, the reason he came back in the book, was because of a "deeper magic from before the dawn of time" not because he is the son of God.

I think there is enough symbolism to intrigue Christians (the more you look into the books, the more you will find) but enough pure fantasy for non-Christians, and it is pretty easy to ignore the smaller symbols if you want to.

Now that I think about it, the mentioning of Adam and Eve (along with Aslan=Jesus formula) is pretty much the only Christian messages I've spotted... guess i'm not a good christian :(

[inkspot]

Now that I think about it, the mentioning of Adam and Eve (along with Aslan=Jesus formula) is pretty much the only Christian messages I've spotted... guess i'm not a good christian :(
LOL, it has nothing to do with being a good Christian, just with how your mind works, if you make connections easily, or look for them compulsively. There are some great books that illuminate the symbolism -- we did a study here on "Finding God in the Land of Narnia" that had great insights. I had been reading the books for decades and knew they were Christian works, and yet I found new stuff in that book which I had never thought of as particularly spiritual.

For instance, there was a whole study on how the children were "drawn into Narnia" in Prince Caspian, and how that reflects the way that coming to Christ instantly moves us from a hundrum lost existence to an exciting new life of adventure, no long on the sidelines, but now right in the middle of the epic struggle of good vs. evil (firmly on the good side). If you read the Chronicles while looking for reflections of Christ and the spiritual walk, you will find them ...

[Son of Aslan]

we did a study here on "Finding God in the Land of Narnia" that had great insights.

Could you link me to that thread? If you want to in this thread, that's fine, but also a PM would be great too. For some reason I cannot find it. Must be having a brain fart or something.

[Gibby]

Here's the link (http://www.narniafans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1108). We based the discussion it off of the book by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware.

[Rhyanidd]

Well I dont see how you can be offended by the christain themes in Narnia, I mean you sorta have to expect that since Lewis is a christain, and so if you get offended by people putting their belifs into what they wright, then dont read, because every single book has (and music too) has what that person believes, so if you get offended by other opinions then you shouldnt read, (I am not tryintg to jump down anybodys thoart or be stupid or annoy anybody that is just what I think)

[inkspot]

Thank you, Gibby. I forgot what the name of it was and couldn't find it myself.

[Narnian1]

Lewis was a believer in the true King, therefore his faith is dropping from everything he writes. In a letter to a kid Lewis once said that The Chronicles of Narnia is not an allegory, Aslan=Jesus, etc, but a supository(not the right word but it is some type of Literary term that I dont know, but it means to suppose.) Lewis says it isn't that Jesus=Aslan, but instead, suppose that there was another world called Narnia, and this world needed redepmtion as our world did, then how would Jesus go about redeeming that world. This is how Lewis thought our Savior would redeem that world as He did ours.
And about the Christmas thing, this whole "Let's say 'Happy Holidays' so we dont offend people" didnt even come into their minds back then. If Christmas offended people when this book was written then it was a select few. This whole Happy Holidays thing is really stupid. The other day there was a Jew on a radio station and he said that Christmas has never offended him, however if they tried to change Jewish traditions, he would be furious.
And also, just a little side note, the only thing I was disappointed in was the fact that they didnt focus on Aslan enough. What happened to the whole convo about him not being safe, but good and King at the Beaver's house. They should have focused more on him. Also I was quite dissappointed that they whimpped out and Father Christmas didnt finish his quote to Lucy. It was supposed to be, "Battles are ugly affairs when women fight." Not just that they are ugly affairs. Other than that it was fantastic. If you dont want Christianity mixed in with fantasy than choose another set of books, because The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe is not the only one that is dripping with Christian themes, as you go there are more and more. But by all means finish the set, for they are wonderful books, and might even lead to your heart being set free, they did for some I know. I know of a little boy who was delighted when he found out he could know Aslan, and that everything Aslan is, Jesus is and so much more. He isnt some distant God who sits in the heavens and judges us, but a passionate Lover, a Great King, The Lion and the Lamb, Fierce and Gentle, Playful and Serious, Creator of all things good and bad. May He draw you to Himself. May He call you Further Up and Further In and allow you to see the goodness of His glory forever and ever. Amen.

[CSLewisFan]

Nope I'm not disappointed, because Aslan is not equal to Jesus.

But even if he were I don't think I would be disappointed, that would mean that Narnia is a real place.
(I do not feel like writing it all again why this is the case. You can visit the "It isn't an Allegory" the first post on the 3rd page is by me, that explains my statement.)

-Austin

[thelawtman]

I agree with U lord. I think that because of the overkill with religon it took out what could have been good books and made them OK books. Nothing like they could have been. Thats why the movie was good because they took out or left out religous aspects as much as they could.

[Archmage_lord]

The Aslan in the movie disappointed me only when he decided to jump on the Witch and kill her. I don't believe Jesus would go and do something like that. Jesus shows forgiveness, not murder.


That kinda bugs me too!

If Lewis intended for Aslan to be a Jesus Christ in another form, Jesus wouldn't have done that. He was a healer, not a war lord. That's why I think the equation isnt exactly Aslan=Jesus, add a little squiggle above the '=' and you get Aslan similar to Jesus.

But what of this: "You must know me by my other name in your world?" statement?

[CSLewisFan]

(To me) the Witch represents sin in the books.
Jesus utterly defeated the power of sin.

-Austin

[inkspot]

If Lewis intended for Aslan to be a Jesus Christ in another form, Jesus wouldn't have done that. He was a healer, not a war lord. That's why I think the equation isnt exactly Aslan=Jesus, add a little squiggle above the '=' and you get Aslan similar to Jesus.

Actually, Jesus is both war-lord and healer (think of Aragorn in Return of the King).

Revelation 19:11 describes Christ this way, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

And Jesus Himself said in Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Aslan had every right to eat up the White Witch -- she was the sworn enemy of his people had had never desired forgiveness. Jesus has every right to eat us up, for our sin makes us his enemies ... it is only through his sacrifice that we are excused.

The way Aslan defended his people from the evil of the witch by killing her is another indication of his Christ-hood: he righteously defeated evil.

[Charn_Tim]

Well put Inkspot! That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. I find Aslan's pouncing on the witch perfectly consistent with Jesus' character, as evidenced by your above scripture references.

[lionessofgod]

I absolutely think that having Aslan=Jesus is awesome! I feel closer to God because of Aslan. Aslan is my hero! I have him on everything, my charm bracelet, my binder, my backpack, everything! I love this idea!

[inkspot]

I absolutely think that having Aslan=Jesus is awesome! I feel closer to God because of Aslan. Aslan is my hero! I have him on everything, my charm bracelet, my binder, my backpack, everything! I love this idea!
That's great, lioness! Welcome to the discussion, I didn't see you post before. CS Lewis himself thought it was okay if kids related to Aslan as Christ, because he said Aslan did or said nothing that Jesus had not already said or done. He said the fact that Aslan had a lion's body and Jesus a man's body was attractive to kids, but that as we grow older we begin to understand it is not the body that matters, it is the Savior inside.

[Archmage_lord]

Revelation 19:11 describes Christ this way, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

And Jesus Himself said in Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."


I never heard those before!

But I'm not saying that Aslan had no right to gobble up the White Witch (serves her right!), it just dosen't add up to my image of Jesus Christ...

[Lord Rhoop]

[QUOTE=Archmage_lord]*******************POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT !!!*************





I've only started writing comments and stuff because I have been enjoying the comments and write-ups by other Christians. I just wish to say that I think that a lion was a great idea for Aslan because as it explains in LWW, the lion is the king of all beasts as well as the Lord being the King of Kins and the Lord of Lords. And giving the idea that lions, as warm and cuddly as they are and look, they should be greatly respected. Which is the idea that Aslan portrays I find especially in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I truly did fall in love with the idea of Aslan being a symbol and desined after Jesus Christ.




Long live the True King!

[PrinceOfTheWest]

I never heard those before!

But I'm not saying that Aslan had no right to gobble up the White Witch (serves her right!), it just dosen't add up to my image of Jesus Christ...A lot of times our images need adjusting by Christ as He reveals Himself to us. He is, indeed, not a tame lion - but He's good.

[Skandar's Girl]

diddo to all of you and the christian meessage is waaay to obvious but c.s. lewis became a christian writing all of those books that's why it was winter all year but no christmas and eventually it became christmas time after everything came in order.......
no christmas for a 100 years tsch tsch tsch

[Lord Rhoop]

A lot of times our images need adjusting by Christ as He reveals Himself to us. He is, indeed, not a tame lion - but He's good.


I agree! Just as Christ can be kind and caring and gracious to us, we must realize that God's wrath abides on those who neglect him. "After all, He's not a tame lion!"

[PrinceOfTheWest]

That has been one of the most valuable things I've learned from Lewis, and confirmed by other scholars. God is indeed immutable - it is we men who choose to move in or out of His blessing by our obedience or disobedience. This is why my tradition (Catholic) teaches that even those who accept Christ and His saving grace can later choose to step out of it and walk away, as the younger son in Luke 15. By the same token, even the most depraved blasphemer can respond to the call and move back.

[inkspot]

By the same token, even the most depraved blasphemer can respond to the call and move back.
Praise His name!

[Aslan's Beloved Daughter]

Oh my goodness, no way am I disappointed! I have loved both (but, what's the difference) since the first time I have known them. Praise God!

[WiseEdmund]

personally, i'm thrilled at the idea. i never paid much attention to the chronicles of narnia until it was brought to my attention that there was a strong Christian element in the book. The funny thing is that i always had a thing for lions :D . In fact i remember this Christmas when my prayer group took us to watch LWW and i saw Aslan for the first time, something clicked. I couldn't put my finger on it until the scene on the stone table where Aslan gives His life for Edmund... it just brought me to tears. :o