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Puzzle dear
12-30-2005, 12:05 AM
There's one thing about the Last Battle that really emphasizes the despair for Tirian and co. It's when the dwarfs kill the talking horses when the horses come to join in the fray. I wanted to kill those little monsters!! :mad: Lewis couldn't have picked a more perfect spot to pull the rug out from under us.
holyboy
12-30-2005, 12:14 AM
That was one of my favorite parts of the book (in a sad sort of way) because it added so much to the chaos to the fray. This was like the start of the end, and where all hope was lost. Also, it created (more) sympathy for the main characters, something that could come to no end. Even though it was so short, it had a huge impact on the book.
I think there would have been a lot missing if that wasn't included in the book. Goes to show that even something so small can have a big impact
Puzzle dear
12-30-2005, 12:18 AM
Yeah, like I said, you think the Calormenes are gonna have their butts kicked, and then suddenly they pull the rug out from under you.
Elendil
12-30-2005, 12:45 AM
I'ts so sad, when I was little I cryed. Probably something to do with the fact the I LOVE horses...
Puzzle dear
12-30-2005, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I wanted to kill those little monsters the dwarfs!!!
elfjad
01-03-2006, 04:49 PM
I didn't like those dwarves either. They said they were for themselves so why didn't they just not participate at all - they just wanted to kill something!
QUEEN KATHLEEN
01-03-2006, 04:57 PM
Why Do Those Mind Little Have To Kill Them Hey Didn't Do Any 2 Them At All
Puzzle dear
01-03-2006, 06:10 PM
That spot isn't the only spot in the story that we and the main characters(Tirian, Jewel, and the kids)get the rug pulled out form under us, but it's the hardest and most painful fall. :(
I hated the dwarfs so much after that happened.
Son of Aslan
01-04-2006, 12:13 PM
It was some relief knowing that Narnia's end was just a short time away, and that the horses were in Aslan's Country.
inkspot
01-04-2006, 01:18 PM
Oh, that was THE WORST moment, when those dwarves were shooting the horses. What a sad thing!
Puzzle dear
01-04-2006, 06:05 PM
I wanted to just kill those little monsters for murdering innocent horses, but I believe that one killing never justifies another, and it is a comforting thought to know that the horses made it into the True Narnia.
lionessofgod
01-06-2006, 06:56 PM
I am a natural born horse lover, and man, did I want to "red rum" those little E-diots! ;)
polly&digory
01-06-2006, 07:43 PM
We are supposed to be decieved by a false god. I can't remember where it is said in the bible. So there will be people like that who wont believe the real God just as the dwarfs did. Similar to, now don't get mad, the Jewish faith. Jesus was not to them the one to come and save us.
Puzzle dear
01-07-2006, 05:22 PM
It says in the book of Revelation.
Gentle Voice
07-10-2006, 12:23 PM
thouh big meanys why did the dwarfs kill them they didn't do any thing 2 them if I was one of the horses I would hart them the dwarfs I mean.
Aslan's Beloved Daughter
07-10-2006, 03:22 PM
Yeah, I got really upset when they killed all the poor horses! I mean, what's the big deal??!! They're just horses, they weren't doing anything to them!
Aslan's Beloved Daughter
07-10-2006, 03:26 PM
We are supposed to be decieved by a false god. I can't remember where it is said in the bible. So there will be people like that who wont believe the real God just as the dwarfs did. Similar to, now don't get mad, the Jewish faith. Jesus was not to them the one to come and save us.
The "False God" is called the AntiChrist! He will deceive many into thinking that he is God. And that's what TLB is about. All the creatures of Narnia are deceived into thinking that Puzzle is really Aslan and that stupid ape Shift is planning it all! I want to strangle that ape!!!! :mad:
PrinceOfTheWest
07-10-2006, 03:46 PM
Actually, the rebellious dwarfs seem to me to be Lewis' image of those people who, when times get difficult and uncertain, decide to look after only themselves and refuse to stand by their old loyalties. Once they learned that the False Aslan was a lie, most of the dwarfs (except Poggin) got all cynical about the true Aslan, and with that went their faith in the King and anything else greater than themselves. They became totally self-centered and self-concerned. Once they stopped living for something greater than themselves, they became capable of any atrocity, including murdering the horses in cold blood.
I think that whether Lewis intended it or not, the Rebellious Dwarfs are a picture of modern man and how he would respond to the trials of the end times. Once disillusioned, they quickly dismissed all that was good and noble as "humbug". Will we prove faithful in the trial, or will we follow that path of cynicism and unbelief?
Malacandra
07-10-2006, 07:29 PM
Yeah, I got really upset when they killed all the poor horses! I mean, what's the big deal??!! They're just horses, they weren't doing anything to them!
The dwarfs did not want either the Narnians or the Calormenes to win the battle, so they killed the reinforcements coming to support the King. They wanted the two opposing sides to wipe each other out so they would not have to deal with either.
LifeMaiden
07-16-2006, 12:15 PM
The dwarfs did not want either the Narnians or the Calormenes to win the battle, so they killed the reinforcements coming to support the King. They wanted the two opposing sides to wipe each other out so they would not have to deal with either.
Yeah, they were out for themselves, wanting to be dominated by neither group. And look what happened to them....they got destroyed. I don't think any dwarf except maybe for Trumpkin made it into New Narnia?
Malacandra
07-17-2006, 09:15 AM
Yeah, they were out for themselves, wanting to be dominated by neither group. And look what happened to them....they got destroyed. I don't think any dwarf except maybe for Trumpkin made it into New Narnia?
I think you mean Poggin, but otherwise, yes: the rest of that bunch for stuck forever on the threshold of New Narnia, deluding themselves into thinking they were shut in a smelly stable. An excellent metaphor, really.
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