Who should play Cariakin the Wizard?

[kingcaspian]

Seeing that the only discussions on new cast members have been only for Eustace(which has been decided) and Ramandu and his daughter, I decided to open a thread on who could play Coriakin, the wizard Lucy meets on Duffer Island. Three people come to my mind on who could play him: Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen, and Jim Broadbent. McKellen would make a good one, but he will probably won't even play him because he is going to be Gandalf in the Hobbit movie which is coming out 2010 or 2011, so he will be busy with that. So, I ask the rest of you: who do you think could play Coriakin?

[PrinceOfTheWest]

I think that's Coriakin. It's a rather minor role (assuming they hew to the original story, which may not be a safe bet), so I don't think it would call for a star billing.

[BarbarianKing]

Yes, it's Coriakin, and it says it's a magician, now a wizard. But maybe there is not much of a difference there. I say Copperfox should play that.;);)

[MrBob]

Actually, he is a star in punishment. I guess being such a being, he knows some magic.

As for who could play him, I don't know. I think, assuming they keep his role about the same size as he was in the book, PotW may be correct in getting someone who is not so famous.

MrBob

[King Of The Hallows]

I think the man who plays Dumbledore should play him personally.

[MrBob]

If, by chance, they do decide to get someone famous, I wouldn't mind seeing Patrick Stewart as either Coriakin or Ramadu.

MrBob

[Sven-El]

Three people come to my mind on who could play him: Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen, and Jim Broadbent. McKellen would make a good one, but he will probably won't even play him because he is going to be Gandalf in the Hobbit movie which is coming out 2010 or 2011, so he will be busy with that. So, I ask the rest of you: who do you think could play Cariakin?

JIm Broadbent has already been in Narnia as Professor Kirke and it would be too confusing to have him in both roles.

While McKellen would be phenomenal in the role, audiences would see McKellen and say " Hey, what's Gandalf doing in this movie." Coriakin and Gandalf are almost too similar.

Lee would work, only becasue Coriakin would be such a different role from what he has already played (Dracula, Dooku, and Saruman.)

I have to side with Mr Bob and say Patrick Stewart. I've seen some videos put out by the Royal Shakespeare Company and he did a good job playing Prospero, another wizard character. He also did the original narrations for Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas and he had this almost "eccentric but kind uncle sound" which Coriakin needs.

Hmmm, How about Leonard Nimoy?

[Mrs. Pevensie]

I think the character of the Magician is rather comical, so I think that Christopher Loyd would be good! or just any person, really...it is such a small role!

[dragonrider]

How about Christopher Plummer?

[kingcaspian]

Plummer is still alive? The only movie I've seen him in is "Sound of Music".

[Sven-El]

Plummer is still alive? The only movie I've seen him in is "Sound of Music".

Yes he is. He's filimg a few movies right now. He also was General Chang, A Klingon Warlord in Star Trek VI ( teh one who kept quoting SHakespeare), the voice of Fivel's father in Amaerican tale and Ben Gates' grandfather in National Treasure.
Now that you mention him, he woudl be a good coriakin, but something about him is almsot too refined and regal. he'd be better as Ramandu.

Say, how about Christopher Walken?

[General Oreius]

Walken: No, that face is not right (not that his face is bad, but Christopher Walken has a type of look that is unchangeable.

Nimoy: "Illogical!" His voice doesn't quite fit the character, but the look could be achieved. Although I imagine the internet becoming strewn with "Spock in a different space role!" commentaries.

Plummer: No...too grandfatherly.

Christopher Lloyd: Having seen way too much "Cyberchase" with a yelling version of him, he'd work as long as he doesn't raise his voice too much, but his character doesn't call for that so there might not be any worries.

Patrick Stewart: Very good choice, as long as he's willing to do it. I would probably prefer him to do Ramandu though, since I imagine him as a bit more of a deep voiced character (along the lines of Charlton Heston's voice).

Christopher Lee: I'm afraid he's a little too stereotyped in a wizard role for me. He'd be okay though, but he's better as a menace, not a grandfather.

[BarbarianKing]

I vote for Patrick Stewart. But I don't think he will want to do this.

[Sven-El]

I vote for Patrick Stewart. But I don't think he will want to do this.

What makes you say that? Keep in mind despite being a member of the RSC, the better parts of his career have been Star Trek the Next generation and X-Men. He also voiced the Pharoah in Prince of Egypt. Plus he did teh audio book version of the Last Battle.

As of now, the only thinsg besides X-men I've heard him in recently is narrations for nassal spray commercials.

[BarbarianKing]

he's too good for such a small role. I am thinking maybe he can play Lord Bern, or even Drinian although he may be too old for Drinian.

[iminlovewithedwardcullen]

Well how old is this guy supposed to be i cant rember??

[BarbarianKing]

I am not sure how old he is but he is Professor Xavier in X-men, if that helps visualize him.

[iminlovewithedwardcullen]

mm how old is the guy the threads about supposed to be??

[Sven-El]

mm how old is the guy the threads about supposed to be??

Corkiakin? No age specified. AS he is a star on probation, we can assume he was created about a fraction of a nanosecond before the dirt of Narnia so therefore Coriakin (and likewise Ramandu) are older than dirt, but only by a fraction of a nanosecond.

Ahh, now I see your point BarbarianKing. He does need a bigger role for someone of his caliber (not huge, just something to showcase his acting prowess.). It would kind of be like if they had Liam Neeson voice Maugrim the wolf instead of Aslan.

[Josh]

I think the character of the Magician is rather comical, so I think that Christopher Loyd would be good! or just any person, really...it is such a small role!

But he has played a wizard as well. He voiced the sorcerer, Rasputin, in the Annastasia movie.

Can we pick people who have never played wizards/sorcerers/magicians before?

[General Oreius]

Didn't know Stewart had done Rasputin. I really don't think you're going to find a really well-known BRITISH actor who has a deep voice, and star-like personality, and will have NOT played a wizard or sorcerer of some sort at some point in his stage and film career. It's a bit of an "ultimate role" for British actors (that's my assumption). Someone who might not have played a wizard though could be Brian Cox. He seems a little to factual though, but apparently he was considered for voicing Aslan before Neeson was picked. But then again, it's a new director.

[Sven-El]

Didn't know Stewart had done Rasputin. I really don't think you're going to find a really well-known BRITISH actor who has a deep voice, and star-like personality, and will have NOT played a wizard or sorcerer of some sort at some point in his stage and film career. It's a bit of an "ultimate role" for British actors (that's my assumption). Someone who might not have played a wizard though could be Brian Cox. He seems a little to factual though, but apparently he was considered for voicing Aslan before Neeson was picked. But then again, it's a new director.

That was Christopher Lloyd who voiced Rasputin. Patrick Stewart for the record who has not played a wizard or sorcerer, at least on film. HE's only played Captain Jean Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D, adn Professor Charles Francis Xavier, the most powerful mutant mind in the universe ( just a tad different.). He probably did play a wizard with the RSC but so did Ian McKellen, before he played Gandalf.

I'm still somewhat partial to Leonard Nimoy ( Mr. Spock). Has any one heard his Ballad of Bilbo Baggins? He can do comedy really well! Most of what he does is either voice over,or Star Trek conventions but it doesn't look like there's been any wizards ( well he was the king in Atlantis: The Lost Empire but that movie has kind of been forgotten.)


Brain Cox would be better for either Pug or Governor Gumpas. There's just something about him in his voice and appearance that gives him this aura of menace. He did a great job with that in the second X-Men film.

Gary Busey is crazy enough, but his apperance could frighten small children. He'd be better as a phantom in the Dark Island.

I'd say we just leave it up to Mr. Apted. His cast for Amazing Grace was phenomenal. C'mon Albert Finney as John Newton!

[General Oreius]

Oops, misread that post and didn't see that was Christopher Lloyd we were talking about. Sorry! :D Gary Busey is not a good choice in my opinion. He's a little to overbearing.

[Sven-El]

Oops, misread that post and didn't see that was Christopher Lloyd we were talking about. Sorry! :D Gary Busey is not a good choice in my opinion. He's a little to overbearing.

And as I said... creepy.

[BarbarianKing]

who was the first to mention Gary Busey? That is really nuts!

[Sven-El]

who was the first to mention Gary Busey? That is really nuts!

Sorry, it was me. I wouldn't want to see him in Narnia at all. He was just the only actor of the top of my head who never played a "wizard/sorcerer/magician/mutant/Jedi/Sith Lord/Vampire/superhero/supervillian/mad Scientist/alien/Shakesperian" character. Every other actor I thought of has been one of these at some point in their career.

[BarbarianKing]

Sorry, it was me. I wouldn't want to see him in Narnia at all. He was just the only actor of the top of my head who never played a "wizard/sorcerer/magician/mutant/Jedi/Sith Lord/Vampire/superhero/supervillian/mad Scientist/alien/Shakesperian" character. Every other actor I thought of has been one of these at some point in their career.

No need to be sorry. I was just joking... sort of. Busey is such a creepy character maybe he can come out as a hag (don't even need the make-up).

[Sven-El]

No need to be sorry. I was just joking... sort of. Busey is such a creepy character maybe he can come out as a hag (don't even need the make-up).

Or a nightmare in the Dark Island. Just have him walk on deck and smile.... I'd wet my pants with fear.

But back to the topic... well who could play Coriakin. Also does he even have to have a British sounding accent? The Pevensies do as they are from England afterall, but Ramandu, his daughter and Coriakin aren't. I'd opt more for an Irish actor because of the lilt the accents have it would just make their voices sound just a bit more ethereal.

[General Oreius]

Hmmm...interesting take on using the Irish accent. That would be pretty cool. Sean Connery won't come out of retirement, and besides...he doesn't fit in my mind. I don't know of any other Irish actors.

[BarbarianKing]

Or a nightmare in the Dark Island. Just have him walk on deck and smile.... I'd wet my pants with fear.

But back to the topic...

but, we were on topic.

[Sven-El]

but, we were on topic.

True... I just had to be sure this didn't become a "Gary Busey is creepy thread." FOrums tend to take lives of their own as I've seen!

[BarbarianKing]

That's a not a bad idea: A Gary Busey is creepy thread! Where should we start it?

Ok, now back to topic for real!

[Sven-El]

That's a not a bad idea: A Gary Busey is creepy thread! Where should we start it?

Ok, now back to topic for real!

Let's see it could either go in the Wood between the world ( where we talk of books, music and moveis) or the land of the duffers. It could work in Socratic Club if we phrased it as ":Gary Busey is the Platonic idea of Creepiness"

But yes, now back to our regular sceduled casting choices.

[BarbarianKing]

Or in the Christianity and Narnia forum! We can title it "What Does The Bible Says About Gary Busey's Creepiness, and Is It Fair To Hags To Compare Him To One."

Now back to Coriakin

[Sven-El]

Or in the Christianity and Narnia forum! We can title it "What Does The Bible Says About Gary Busey's Creepiness, and Is It Fair To Hags To Compare Him To One."

Now back to Coriakin

Yes, back to Coriakin.

[~Grateful * Surrender~]

if he wasn't so well known I'd say the man who plays Dumbledore

[Pianoplayer888]

I say either the guy who plays Dumbledore or Gandalf, although there is a good chance, like people mentioned before, that audiences would recognize them.

If neither of them work, I say we let Disney do something they actually seem capable of doing right: finding a not famous person to play the role.:)