Potential early draft of script on internet

[MrBob]

Someone at the VotDT IMDB boards posted a website called SpoilersTV-Movies (I will not provide the specific URL until it is confirmed) that has pages from what they are calling an early draft of the script of VotDT.

Someone at Narniaweb's forums also posted this news, and there is a lengthy discussion regarding the veracity of the purported script. I am following NarniaWeb's lead by not providing the URL. They want confirmation that it is real before giving the address.

I read the first part of the draft that is the beginning of the movie. I tried reading more but the site doesn't agree with my computer. I tried IE 6.0 (yes, an old version but I use it for this site) and Netscape 7.0. I may try Firefox tomorrow. What I read was nothing much, but others have mentioned that other parts are taking a bit too much liberty with the book.

MrBob

[NarnianofGryffindor]

I have read it also, and it does take WAY too many liberties. The changes in PC I understood and I'm fine with them, but what they write in this early draft of VODT is ridiculous. It would be actually be a good story, though, if it were for something besides VODT.
But then this is a maybe early draft (if it's real). So changes will most likely be made to it. So, I don't think theres much to worry about at this point.

[MrBob]

The only thing I am worried about at this point is that if it is real, I want to know who leaked it and why. It's one thing to take pictures of a scene during filming. It's quite another to leak any draft of a movie script on the internet.

MrBob

[NarnianofGryffindor]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering also. What I'm thinking though, is that if it real it was on it's way to the trash bin when an unscrupulous employee maybe scanned it or something? And then afterward sold it to the site. But that's just wishful thinking.....

[Sven-El]

You can never be to sure with scripts leaked on the internet. SuperShadow for example would always leak that he had full scripts for the Star Wars prequels and the forth Indy movie. It was then discovered that the scripts were just cobled together based on early rumors and announcements. Same thing could happen here.

[Alambil and Tarvis]

I agree w/ Sven-El. I highly doubt that whatever was leaked is the actual script--it might not even be an actual draft. Since I don't think anything of that much consequence was released so early on in the production of the first two films, this is probably nothing. *Sigh* If it is a fake, I really wish stupid people would stop releasing that kind of stuff claiming it's real...gets us all stressed out for nothing. Geez. :mad:

Besides, nothing about it is on NarniaWeb. I trust them for all the official information (since what they get is usually accurate), and I know there would've been something on there if this was the real deal. ;)

[Alambil and Tarvis]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering also. What I'm thinking though, is that if it real it was on it's way to the trash bin when an unscrupulous employee maybe scanned it or something? And then afterward sold it to the site. But that's just wishful thinking.....

You can never be to sure with scripts leaked on the internet. SuperShadow for example would always leak that he had full scripts for the Star Wars prequels and the forth Indy movie. It was then discovered that the scripts were just cobled together based on early rumors and announcements. Same thing could happen here.


Well, it appears that both of you were on the right track. I've got the OFFICIAL word on the leaked script here: http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19585

Thanks to Tirian from NarniaWeb!! :D
Rest easy, people, the producers DO get the final say, and Doug Gresham is one of them. PHEW! :p

[BarbarianKing]

I think they would say that. I mean, they would deny things because it would be crazy to admit that that is what they are really going to use. I did no see the script or anything but I heard that there were major deviations from the book. I don't trust moviemakers, really.

[office]

I`m gonna go read it now but I highly doubt it`s real.

[Alambil and Tarvis]

I dunno, I really don't think they're going to use that one. It's probably VERY early.

[Sven-El]

I dunno, I really don't think they're going to use that one. It's probably VERY early.

Exactly. Early scripts are hardly anything to worry about. Movie makers go through countless versions of scripts ( at least ten or eleven) before they come up with one that actually works.

[Knight of Narnia]

I wonder if it was just an early draft they had prepared, but I am wondering if they had "experimented" with Prince Caspian by basically re-working the entire story and since it didn't turn out as well as LWW, which stayed closer to the story, maybe they discarded that particular draft? :confused:

[cepault]

This bit of news caused quick a ruckus at LionCon. :eek: Fueled some great discussions. Heard many a groan too.

If you are curious about an official comment from a person in the production from Disney, check the link here (http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19585&PID=1181409#1181409) to Coracle's post at NarniaWeb.

I also need to find the source of where it was mentioned Mr. Apted brought in someone to rewrite the script - this further supports this is a draft of the script that has been tossed out.

[Into the Wardrobe]

Thanks Cepault! Yes, this script was tossed thankfully as it well should have been!

I will say that at no time will the link to this script be permitted on this site! If you have it DO NOT POST IT! That is not a suggestion! Specter does not need, nor does he want any calls from Disney telling him to remove it. He has enough to deal with. So, let's keep it off here. Thanks!

[Elentari]

Another thing to remember with scripts is they are continually works in progress, not just at the beginning. I remember a comment Peter Jackson said on the appendices of the extended Fellowship of the Ring--they would constantly write, talk, rewrite, think, rewrite up until the shooting of the scene, literally. John Ryes-Davies, who played Gimli, said he has boxes of rewrites that they would slip under his door in the middle of the night, most of them unopened because he knew they'd be changed again by morning anyway.

And as a comfort to you Puddleglums out there ;) Jackson also commented that as they revised and rewrote the scripts became closer to the book. Though I know many of you fans don't have the same faith in the Chronicles script writers as the LOTR fans have with PJ. :)

[Son of Adam]

A number of us at LionCon read it, and I don't think there is anything to worry about at this time. It might be fake, or it might not be. Disney/Walden Media are very closed mouthed on stuff like this leaking out, so I'm just not sure if it has any validity to it.

[Into the Wardrobe]

A number of us at LionCon read it, and I don't think there is anything to worry about at this time. It might be fake, or it might not be. Disney/Walden Media are very closed mouthed on stuff like this leaking out, so I'm just not sure if it has any validity to it.

Bro, read your Narnia reports. Thankfully it was a script that had been tossed already! If what we'd read were made as the VDT movie the franchise would have ceased to exist I think. Tis the stuff of nightmares....sorry...the book purist in me can't be tamed. *clasps her BBC DVDs tightly*

[Alambil and Tarvis]

Another thing to remember with scripts is they are continually works in progress, not just at the beginning. I remember a comment Peter Jackson said on the appendices of the extended Fellowship of the Ring--they would constantly write, talk, rewrite, think, rewrite up until the shooting of the scene, literally. John Ryes-Davies, who played Gimli, said he has boxes of rewrites that they would slip under his door in the middle of the night, most of them unopened because he knew they'd be changed again by morning anyway.

And as a comfort to you Puddleglums out there ;) Jackson also commented that as they revised and rewrote the scripts became closer to the book. Though I know many of you fans don't have the same faith in the Chronicles script writers as the LOTR fans have with PJ. :)

Well, I actually do...at least, in the respect that the script writers have been able to keep true to the predominant theme of Aslan always "being there" and being "in control". Even the nuances, like tiny little lines such as the one in LWW when Aslan says, "I, too, want my family safe" or "You have to trust me, for this must be done".

And honestly, I trust Stephen Knight (new script-writer under Apted...unless he's been changed or something). I'm actually surprised he would write something like the previous scrapped script...but maybe it wasn't all him. I mean, his script for Amazing Grace was phenomenal, so I don't really expect him to do anything less than that.

As for the little nuances I mentioned, I hope they remember to keep those in. They've been a constant theme throughout the first 2 films, so I'm going to look for them in the 3rd.

And one more nuance. The word "impossible". Somebody "bad" (Gumpas, maybe? Pug?) needs to say it in response to something that is being represented as the "truth". I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that one word, too, has been a running motif in the last 2 movies. The first time it's said is in Susan's response to walking through the wardrobe the first time (they were already foreshadowing her fall then), and the second time was by the White Witch when the resurrected Aslan comes to the battle (thus linking Susan to the source of evil? more foreshadowing?). The third time is when Miraz sees Trumpkin for the first time (linking him to doubt? which CAN be a source of evil? too). See the theme? It's only said by the people who think (or eventually will think--ie Susan) that they have no reason to believe in the true Aslan, the true Narnia, etc. I've enjoyed seeing that one tiny bit in the films so far; I hope it's continued, or I will be quite sad. :(

But...Eustace should NOT say it, because he eventually converts. I think the only reason Susan says it is because she ends up going in the opposite direction (keep in mind Jadis and Miraz are basically evil the whole time). It wouldn't make sense for him to say it and then completely turn around and become one of the 7 Friends of Narnia, when Susan says it and then stops being a Friend, and when the other two who say it are either the embodiment of evil or allying w/ evil for good. Does anyone understand me?? If not...nevermind...or I could explain it again...

Anyhoo, given all that, I guess I wish I could be part of the script-writing team. But I'll have faith in Knight & Co.; I think they'll do well.

[ndfan1993]

Boy, am I glad it was a fake - although I hadn't thought much otherwise, to tell you the truth. I have alot of faith that the writers will make the movie amazing, as they have the other two.

Good observations, Alambil and Tarvis. I hadn't thought of it that way. Very interesting thoughts, and it would/will be cool to see how(if) it is used in VDT.

[Alambil and Tarvis]

Are Markus and McFeely still on the script-writing team, even though Andrew isn't directing? B/c I know Stephen Knight is Apted's writer...but I'm assuming they kept the other two :confused:

[General Oreius]

I know VDT is in pre-production, but this is WAAAYYYY too early for a first draft to be done and LEAKED. It's a fake.

[Elentari]

And one more nuance. The word "impossible". Somebody "bad" (Gumpas, maybe? Pug?) needs to say it in response to something that is being represented as the "truth". I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but that one word, too, has been a running motif in the last 2 movies. The first time it's said is in Susan's response to walking through the wardrobe the first time (they were already foreshadowing her fall then), and the second time was by the White Witch when the resurrected Aslan comes to the battle (thus linking Susan to the source of evil? more foreshadowing?). The third time is when Miraz sees Trumpkin for the first time (linking him to doubt? which CAN be a source of evil? too). See the theme? It's only said by the people who think (or eventually will think--ie Susan) that they have no reason to believe in the true Aslan, the true Narnia, etc. I've enjoyed seeing that one tiny bit in the films so far; I hope it's continued, or I will be quite sad.

Gumpas would be perfect. There are few really BAD characters in Voyage--compared to the others its really not as much a good vs. evil movie as it is an adventure filled from cover to cover with redemption and character development. :) But saying "impossible"--maybe about Caspian being the King of Narnia and returning--would fit PERFECTLY with Gumpas' character. Good idea! :D

[Into the Wardrobe]

It wasn't a fake, Disney confirmed that...but it was an early draft that has since been tossed out. Marcus and McFeely are writing the script again and this one was tossed before Stephen Knight was brought in to help...from the looks of it, the guys needed all the help they could get. Sorry, but that early draft was horrific to say the least.

Andrew is not on the writing team this time and he will only be producing and not directing. Michael Apted will be directing this time around. There will be changes from book to film, as sad as that is. I don't know what the end result will look like, I just hope that Stephen can make progress in keeping it closer to the book with much less in the way of liberties taken.

[Alambil and Tarvis]

Well, Stephen IS Apted's writer. He wrote the script for Apted's Amazing Grace.

But I must say this:

KNIGHT IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

The script for AG was one of the most powerful screenplays ever written; it's a shame the movie was so underestimated by Hollywood. It, like the rest of the film, completely blew me away--it was incredibly symbolic and uplifting WITHOUT being overbearingly preachy, which is how the Narnia scripts should be and I think have been so far. None of it was awkward, not even the humor, and the characters were so fleshed out, for the most part, that I wanted to cry when *stuff* happened to them. AG was...well...AMAZING.

So I trust Knight :D

[sarahnarnia1983]

on the IMDB message boards.someone has witten down the beginning of the darft script they got of you tube apparantly.it mentions trumpkin in it but in the book he is looking after narnia for caspian.at least we know t has been thrown out.

[Alambil and Tarvis]

I don't think we have much to worry about at this point :)

[Sven-El]

I don't think we have much to worry about at this point :)

Quite right. Lets go worry abotu somethign else... like Global Warming... :D

[General Oreius]

Or we could worry about preventing and ending world hunger. I really never thought that this script was plausible as THE SCRIPT for the movie. Every scriptwriter has early versions that are thrown out. We need to remember that Douglas Gresham is a co-producer, so he's probably got a say over approving the script. I remember reading somewhere (maybe here on Narniafans) that in the beginning (LWW) he had to decline several scripts that did not fit Narnia at all (a.k.a., cheeseburger & milkshake for Edmund instead of Turkish Delight and the warm drink).

[Alambil and Tarvis]

Or we could worry about preventing and ending world hunger. I really never thought that this script was plausible as THE SCRIPT for the movie. Every scriptwriter has early versions that are thrown out. We need to remember that Douglas Gresham is a co-producer, so he's probably got a say over approving the script. I remember reading somewhere (maybe here on Narniafans) that in the beginning (LWW) he had to decline several scripts that did not fit Narnia at all (a.k.a., cheeseburger & milkshake for Edmund instead of Turkish Delight and the warm drink).

:eek: Is that a joke, or did they really put in the cheeseburger?? AAAHH!

But I agree. It's not THE SCRIPT.

[Sven-El]

:eek: Is that a joke, or did they really put in the cheeseburger?? AAAHH!

But I agree. It's not THE SCRIPT.

Nope. That is not a joke. Back in the early nineties when the film rights were with Paramount and the script for LWW was heavily modernized. It included not only Edmund being fofered as cheeseburger and milkshake, but the four Pevensies living in LA in the 1990's and going to stay with the Professor because of the earth quakes isntead of the Air Raids as at the time those working with the film ( save Mr. Gresham) thought that children wouldn't understand the Bliztkrieg or WWII and be truned of by a "history lesson" as it were .

[Alambil and Tarvis]

WOW. :eek: I am SO glad that did not happen.

[Tarkheena_Finduilas22]

Even if this script that was leaked is real, we have nothing to really worry about yet. The opperative word of this thread name is DRAFT. It's just that, a draft. Nothing set in stone.

I am so glad they didn't put the cheeseburger and milkshake in. And LWW in the 1990's??? Thank goodness that never got off the ground.... :eek:

[Into the Wardrobe]

What they were planning wouldn't have been much better from what I could tell. Yes, we know, it's a draft...but a freaky one at that. The mere thought that they'd consider anything of the kind and waste anyones time and effort on such dribble doesn't help anyone's confidence in the writers.

[NarnianofGryffindor]

What they were planning wouldn't have been much better from what I could tell. Yes, we know, it's a draft...but a freaky one at that. The mere thought that they'd consider anything of the kind and waste anyones time and effort on such dribble doesn't help anyone's confidence in the writers.

Remember though, the early drafts of LWW. I'm sure in they're work, they have to consider all facets of the story. Different ways of showing it. I bet you anything they also have a script that's really close to the book. And they probably combine different drafts together. Take the best ideas from each one or something. That's all just a guess, though. What I'm really trying to say is there's nothing to worry about. :p :D

[Alambil and Tarvis]

I agree w/ NarnianofGryffindor :P