How they should do Prince Caspian the movie

[Edmund Pevensie]

I believe that in the Prince Caspian movie the story of Prince Caspian should go first. Then they can get to how the Pevensies get into Narnia and how they rescue Trumpkin and when the time comes when the Dwarf tells the story of Prince Caspian they should make the Dwarf say like a brief narration of the story of Prince Caspian and show like some of the first scenes of the movie of the story of Prince Caspian. After that they continue with the adventure as in the book. What do you think about this? and: How would you do it?

[sukapesta]

i think the order in the book is pretty good... maybe change it a little... you need to have the pevensie kids upfront cos they are the ones the audience is most familiar with (and would look forward to seeing the most), so i would do crosscuts between the pevensies in the train station and caspian getting susan's horn and calling for the pevensies (maybe obscure his face for added suspense... at least for those who have not read the books or fangirls who can't wait to see what caspian would look like), then as the kids arrive back into narnia, looking very confused, the opening credits will roll... if they intend to have the credits longer like in LWW, then it will roll as the kids find their way around and out of the woods... and from then on the sequence will follow the book exactly, with flashbacks to the story of caspian finally revealing his face and his story...

[onlymystory]

I would imagine it will start with the Pevensies and then flash back and forth between the two stories. But I hope it goes the way of the book, where we are told the story by Trumpkin. If its done that way, I'm guessing that there will be flashbacks to the Pevensies to keep interest there. It will be interesting to see how they do that.

[ºººJill_Poleººº]

I think they should do it the way the books says...Even though Edmund Pevensie's version is great :)

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

Personally, I think the movies always have to START in the real world and enter Narnia.

I understand the thought behind starting with Caspian's story, but I don't think you can start the story in Narnia. I think it would be a bit confusing at first to the audience. As you remember, Narnia in Miraz's time has no talking animals, dwarves etc. It's all humans. I think alot of people (who haven't read the books) would be sitting there wondering if they were watching Narnia or England.

I also agree that the familiar characters (the pevensies), should be introduced at the beginning. It gives you a foundation, then you can follow them along the journey back into Narnia.

I do think that suggestion of showing the horn sounding just before they're taken from the train station into Narnia was a great idea though. It peaks the curiousity without revealing exactly what happened to bring them there. You still have to listen to the dwarf's story to find that out.

I just hope they do a good job with Reepicheep, it's important to make him cute and spunky, and to get him a voice actor who can give him some pep and feistiness. Caspian's obviously more important to the story, but Reep's a more endearing character. How well they do with Reep could determine how successful they are with PC.

[Phinix]

well that and also Trumpken Tells them all and you cant leve Trumpken cuz he is needed in VDT and SC

[ºººJill_Poleººº]

Personally, I think the movies always have to START in the real world and enter Narnia.

I understand the thought behind starting with Caspian's story, but I don't think you can start the story in Narnia. I think it would be a bit confusing at first to the audience. As you remember, Narnia in Miraz's time has no talking animals, dwarves etc. It's all humans. I think alot of people (who haven't read the books) would be sitting there wondering if they were watching Narnia or England.

I also agree that the familiar characters (the pevensies), should be introduced at the beginning. It gives you a foundation, then you can follow them along the journey back into Narnia.

I do think that suggestion of showing the horn sounding just before they're taken from the train station into Narnia was a great idea though. It peaks the curiousity without revealing exactly what happened to bring them there. You still have to listen to the dwarf's story to find that out.

I just hope they do a good job with Reepicheep, it's important to make him cute and spunky, and to get him a voice actor who can give him some pep and feistiness. Caspian's obviously more important to the story, but Reep's a more endearing character. How well they do with Reep could determine how successful they are with PC.
You have all the reason ;)

[SK21]

I agree they need to start in the real world, re-indroducing the Pevensies, maybe discussing a little what is too come in the next term. The title thread comes up and we're back to them at the train station.

then they go to Narnia. It's not brilliant

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

I think they may need to make the battles in this movie longer. There's alot of storytelling and observation, not alot of events.

Events:

Wandering around the "island", trying to figure out their whereabouts

Rescuing the DLF

Proving themselves worthy to the DLF (though this may not make the movie I think)

Sailing for the river (maybe they simply skip forward to them landing in the forest where Lucy sees aslan)

Lucy wanders the woods (important scene, maybe they could even add to this like they did with the Tumnus-Lucy lullabye scene in LWW...an elaborate dancing of the dryads scene?)

Following the invisible Aslan (they may choose to skip this part, though I like it)

The incident in Aslan's How (with the werewolf and the hag...should be good if done well)

Caspian and Peter unite, Peter takes charge, invites Miraz to a duel

The Duel (they could make this really long or short, depending on how well they can choreograph a fight with Peter and Miraz)

Melee ensues, Miraz falls, Reepicheep fights like a 1' tall William Wallace and nearly gets shishkabobbed, the trees scare off the Telmarines

Aslan takes the tour of the land with Susan and Lucy, finds the Nanny

Aslan allows the Telmarines to return to Earth, fixes Reep's tail (cute scene)



The more Reepicheep the better, if they get him right that is. I want to see him scold the giant for mocking him for wanting to be a list at the duel. Peter and Caspian need to hit it off, work well together on screen. Mix in a few battle sequences of Caspian's army losing while Peter, Edmund, Lucy, Susan, and DLF are trying to get to them. I guess the DLF should be lovable too, since he's going to be along on most of the ride, we know the Pevensies...DLF needs to carry his weight.

[Deep_Magic]

Yep, I agree we have to start in the real world with the children so ppl do not get confused - especially as now Narnia has changed. I think the blowing of the horn without seeing Caspian's face is also another great idea to get people hooked.
They should keep or just shorten the invisible Aslan - although I dont know whether we will be able to see him or not?
Yep, Reepicheep has to be adorable and make good use of the whole 'tail scene'. Also DLF has to be lovable too!!
The duel scene I should imagine they will make it long - as like the battle in LWW, it was only a page in the book but was extended for interest and to make use of special effects.
They should also make good use of the story telling as this is a major part of the story!

[Merklynn]

Don't forget that the book references that Caspian's army is battling Miraz and losing for several days before the Pevensies arrive. That means two possible battle scenes. One without the children and one with them at the end of the movie, as well as a Peter vs Miraz skirmish. Oh, and of course the fight with the Werewolf and the Hag.

I'd break the action scenes down as follows and elaborate on them like Andrew Adamson did with LWW the movie.

1.) Caspian's forces vs Miraz
2.) Werewolf and Hag mutiny
3.) Peter vs Miraz (one on one)
4.) Final battle

That's actually more battle scenes than LWW had and due to the brevity of the book in terms of events, I'm sure they will be expanded upon for the movie.

I'm really excited.

~~~Merklynn




I think they may need to make the battles in this movie longer. There's alot of storytelling and observation, not alot of events.

Events:

Wandering around the "island", trying to figure out their whereabouts

Rescuing the DLF

Proving themselves worthy to the DLF (though this may not make the movie I think)

Sailing for the river (maybe they simply skip forward to them landing in the forest where Lucy sees aslan)

Lucy wanders the woods (important scene, maybe they could even add to this like they did with the Tumnus-Lucy lullabye scene in LWW...an elaborate dancing of the dryads scene?)

Following the invisible Aslan (they may choose to skip this part, though I like it)

The incident in Aslan's How (with the werewolf and the hag...should be good if done well)

Caspian and Peter unite, Peter takes charge, invites Miraz to a duel

The Duel (they could make this really long or short, depending on how well they can choreograph a fight with Peter and Miraz)

Melee ensues, Miraz falls, Reepicheep fights like a 1' tall William Wallace and nearly gets shishkabobbed, the trees scare off the Telmarines

Aslan takes the tour of the land with Susan and Lucy, finds the Nanny

Aslan allows the Telmarines to return to Earth, fixes Reep's tail (cute scene)



The more Reepicheep the better, if they get him right that is. I want to see him scold the giant for mocking him for wanting to be a list at the duel. Peter and Caspian need to hit it off, work well together on screen. Mix in a few battle sequences of Caspian's army losing while Peter, Edmund, Lucy, Susan, and DLF are trying to get to them. I guess the DLF should be lovable too, since he's going to be along on most of the ride, we know the Pevensies...DLF needs to carry his weight.

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

Don't forget that the book references that Caspian's army is battling Miraz and losing for several days before the Pevensies arrive. That means two possible battle scenes. One without the children and one with them at the end of the movie, as well as a Peter vs Miraz skirmish. Oh, and of course the fight with the Werewolf and the Hag.

I'd break the action scenes down as follows and elaborate on them like Andrew Adamson did with LWW the movie.

1.) Caspian's forces vs Miraz
2.) Werewolf and Hag mutiny
3.) Peter vs Miraz (one on one)
4.) Final battle

That's actually more battle scenes than LWW had and due to the brevity of the book in terms of events, I'm sure they will be expanded upon for the movie.

I'm really excited.

~~~Merklynn


Yeah, my thought was to show clips of battle scenes while the children and DLF are making their way toward Aslan's how. That way it'd sort of build suspense. They definately need to cut back and forth between the stories of the children and of Caspian's army.

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

Yep, I agree we have to start in the real world with the children so ppl do not get confused - especially as now Narnia has changed. I think the blowing of the horn without seeing Caspian's face is also another great idea to get people hooked.
They should keep or just shorten the invisible Aslan - although I dont know whether we will be able to see him or not?
Yep, Reepicheep has to be adorable and make good use of the whole 'tail scene'. Also DLF has to be lovable too!!
The duel scene I should imagine they will make it long - as like the battle in LWW, it was only a page in the book but was extended for interest and to make use of special effects.
They should also make good use of the story telling as this is a major part of the story!


As far as the invisible Aslan, I think it'd be as easy as making Aslan visible to the audience (and Lucy of course) but Peter, Edmund, Susan, and DLF simply claiming that they can't see him.

But who knows, the writers may decide not to spend much time on the children's journey to the stone table and simply make it more about the battles.

[polly&digory]

I agree with it cutting to the battles while It is told to the children. Thats how they find out in the book and it can work for film as well. If Andrew is going to do this next one he will do a great job. I was very impressed.

[giselle]

I believe that in the Prince Caspian movie the story of Prince Caspian should go first. Then they can get to how the Pevensies get into Narnia and how they rescue Trumpkin and when the time comes when the Dwarf tells the story of Prince Caspian they should make the Dwarf say like a brief narration of the story of Prince Caspian and show like some of the first scenes of the movie of the story of Prince Caspian. After that they continue with the adventure as in the book. What do you think about this? and: How would you do it?

That would be great. I was thinking about breaking the chronological order in any of the Narnia movies. However, I don't think that the people is prepared to accept a version that goes beyond the pages of a book. There would be a lot of crazy fans mad at the producers, screenwriters and director for doing that.

I'm not saying it is a bad idea, I think it is excellent. They should try it.

[sukapesta]

Proving themselves worthy to the DLF (though this may not make the movie I think)

this is my favorite scene in the book, so i'd be really disappointed if they didn't make it into the final cut... and i think the DLF's initial distrust and how the kids prove themselves to the DLF is an important part of the story... now, since this will have more battle scenes than LWW, gore or no gore? (i.e. blood or no blood?) and another question is, if caspian's story is told through flashback (trumpkin re-telling the story to the pevensie kids) should we keep his voice as sort of a narrator or not?

and i agree, reep has to be done well, since he'll be in subsequent films (and play a MAJOR part in VDT)...

[MTMFan]

I think what I would do is start with Caspian blowing the horn to call for the ancient kings and queens of Narnia, have the Pevensies show up, and follow from there. Then there'd be some suspense as to how things got to such a point that they're needed so desperately.

Although I can see the point of wanting to go from our world to Narnia, I would rather just jump right into the action. But that's just my own opinion.

[Corin Thunder-Fist]

this is my favorite scene in the book, so i'd be really disappointed if they didn't make it into the final cut... and i think the DLF's initial distrust and how the kids prove themselves to the DLF is an important part of the story... now, since this will have more battle scenes than LWW, gore or no gore? (i.e. blood or no blood?) and another question is, if caspian's story is told through flashback (trumpkin re-telling the story to the pevensie kids) should we keep his voice as sort of a narrator or not?

and i agree, reep has to be done well, since he'll be in subsequent films (and play a MAJOR part in VDT)...


I do like the scene also. I just know that not everything makes the movies. Cute scenes seem to take a backseat to action scenes on the priority list. I'm thinking that may end up as a deleted scene on a DVD perhaps? I hope they film everything, whether they decide to put it in the movie or not. Then they can do the director's cuts like PJ did with LOTR.

As far as gore is concerned, from what I hear...Walden Media avoids it, seems to be their modus operandi. I think they need to put enough of it in to make the scenes exciting, especially the duel between Peter and Miraz.

[Deep_Magic]

As for the whole gore thing I don't know what they will do!! I'd assume they would avoid it as lots of kids will probably watch it! Although when I went to see LWW some kids were crying in some bits that didnt really have any gore anyway so who knows!!! We will have to wait and see!! They reacon that it will be out next year and they are doing this movie next as all of the chilodren are in it and they want to film it before they get too old!

[TimmyofOz]

I just hope it is better than the BBC version. :p

[Emperor beyond the Sea]

i would start out with the four kids getting pulled into narnia and have Trumpkin tell Caspain's story

[Rhyanidd]

Proving themselves worthy to the DLF (though this may not make the movie I think)
Following the invisible Aslan (they may choose to skip this part, though I like it)

They better have those SCENES!!! Anyway I think they should do it in the order of the book, and if you have the horn, at the begining, I think several people may figure that out, since in LWW its not exactly a "ordinary" looking horn, its like shaped different and stuff....but it would be preety cool...undecided there...but other than that...by the book!!

[Penguin Gurl]

I think they should definitely go by the book. C.S. Lewis wouldn't have written the book in the order it comes if he didn't think it worked best. Why mess a good piece of literature like Prince Caspian up by changing it? Oh, and they had better keep most of the dialogue from PC too, because I love the book, and the script will be awesome if they stick to the book.

[Puddleglum the Least]

I was posting on the "all seven movies" thread and ran into this one. You guys seem to feel exactly as I do. Obsuring the face of Caspian and starting with the horn blowing and pulling the children into Narnia is a brilliant idea. There is no major battle scene in the book. But balancing the continual loses of the Narnian forces on one side and showing the confusion and wandering of the Pevensie children at the same time would build on the tension. Even when I read the book I get mad at Peter and Susan for not listening to Lucy. For those who like action, a good fight scene between Peter and Miraz is wide open for artistic interpretation. I't could be even frightening. Remember, Peter was losing the fight for a while. My biggest concern is how they will handle Aslan and the girls in the town of Beruna. This could end the movie with a make or break fairy tale ending. It may have to be rewritten to make it more acceptable to adult. Especially those who haven't read the book.
Thanks for having this discussion thread.
For Aslan and Narnia!

[stronger_WM]

I was posting on the "all seven movies" thread and ran into this one. You guys seem to feel exactly as I do. Obsuring the face of Caspian and starting with the horn blowing and pulling the children into Narnia is a brilliant idea. There is no major battle scene in the book. But balancing the continual loses of the Narnian forces on one side and showing the confusion and wandering of the Pevensie children at the same time would build on the tension. Even when I read the book I get mad at Peter and Susan for not listening to Lucy. For those who like action, a good fight scene between Peter and Miraz is wide open for artistic interpretation. I't could be even frightening. Remember, Peter was losing the fight for a while. My biggest concern is how they will handle Aslan and the girls in the town of Beruna. This could end the movie with a make or break fairy tale ending. It may have to be rewritten to make it more acceptable to adult. Especially those who haven't read the book.
Thanks for having this discussion thread.
For Aslan and Narnia!
Hahah I was thinking exactly the same thing! Well...everything that you said :p

[sukapesta]

i was thinking about the ending... remember, this is peter and susan's farewell (at least until the last battle, and the horse and his boy should they decide to make it)... in the book, the dialogue where they revealed to ed and lu that it'd be their last time was pretty short ("what bad luck"?), i'd go for a more dramatic farewell for peter and susan (some close-ups with lucy close to tears as usual)... and a scene of their dialogue with aslan with no sound (like what they did with edmund last time)...

one more thing is, on LWW they decided to add some scenes (the air raid etc)... Do you think there's enough material in PC for a feature-length, and enough background story, or is there a need for additional storyline>

[GoatyLegs]

there may not be another movie

[Puddleglum the Least]

i was thinking about the ending... on LWW they decided to add some scenes (the air raid etc)... Do you think there's enough material in PC for a feature-length, and enough background story, or is there a need for additional storyline>
I also have worried about the ending of PC. I noticed that the rewritters of LWW were able to write changes without destroying the book (the wolves at Beaver's house and the falls at the river). The chapters dealing with Aslan and the girls at Beruna and following are going to be a problem(Children turning in pigs and people turning into trees). I would think that we should pray that skillful writers rework this part of the book. Not because Narnian's would be surprised with the book, but because some adults and those who never read CON wouldn't understand. Note: I am a great deal older than the others who write here. That is probably why I write so long and boring. But one truth I would like to confirm about Aslan. The longer I a have known him the larger and grander he has become.

[ABright5]

I disagree with you, but that is just my oppinion.

You are entitled to yours, and I'm entitled to mine.
Lol.

[Narborg]

The way you sagested was the way they did it in the BBC verson. The problem is , you need to explain how the childrn knew the stoy, so you need trampkin exlpaing. Also, there is a bit of mysstery at the start of the book, a the childen don't know whats going on, which would be good to play with . So I would say do it they way it is in the book.