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chonghh90
11-30-2005, 10:18 AM
Did Peter, Edmund and Lucy die at the last story?
or they just live in the other place?
i not very understand with the ending,can someone help me? :D

TimmyofOz
11-30-2005, 10:39 AM
welcome chonghh90, That question is dealt with all over this forum. Search around to find more on this. But it looks like the children all died, except Susan.

inkspot
11-30-2005, 12:17 PM
Welcome to the Forum, Chonghh! I didn't see you post before.

You read The Last Battle and are trying to figure out what happened to the kids?

***TLB Spoilers***

It seems that the kids were in a train accident and died, and what do you know, their parents were on the train theirs collided wiith, so their parents died, too. But Lewis manages to make this death seem llike more of a promotion, because they were freed from life on this earth and given eternal ife in the new -- or the true -- Narnia.

I think this is what our own death will be like if we are followers of Jesus: we will be set free from life on this earth and released into a life of joy with Him, an even better life than what we can imagine in Narnia with Aslan!

Wallis
11-30-2005, 11:10 PM
Their bodies died. Like the stable door, however, death is merely a doorway to eternal life. So, the children did not die in the spiritual side but live forever with Aslan/Christ.

chonghh90
12-01-2005, 11:30 AM
Thanks for you all! ;)

G.E. Boehm
12-01-2005, 11:53 PM
They all die because if you remeber one of them said, "All I remeber is that there was a loud bang and then we were here." because if you remeber none of the original four were to return until they died. Because they were in the "true" Narnia and their parents were in true England is because they were once king and queens of Narnia and had to return.

grimmcest
12-03-2005, 01:05 AM
All you guys' posts made me misty-eyed.
I knew, before it was stated, that they'd passed. I just knew it.
I was about 6 or 7 when I first read it, and when I finished I cried for hours.
But, now that I'm older, and reading it again, it means much more than my favourite characters dying. I realized, last year or something, that it was all symbolism, and the new Narina was heaven and Aslan was like God and they all finally achieved real peace... And all that made me cry even harder.

G.E. Boehm
12-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Reading the Last Battle made me want to cry, the fact the books were over and that C.S. Lewis died. I was about 7 when I asked my mom,"When I go to heaven can I talk to C.S. Lewis?" all I know is that when I get to heaven after meeting the savior I'm asking God where Mr. Lewis is so we can have a nice long chat in God years :D

king_phiilip
12-05-2005, 10:28 AM
i have just finish the series and loved it. the ending in the last battle surprised me. I had no idea that would happen. this might sound bad but i wish suzan would have died with them. I mean can you imagine being at home and getting a call that said that your whole family died. that would really stink. I hope she returns to aslan on day though to join them.

sorry for spelling errors

inkspot
12-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Welcome King Phillip and Grimmcest! I didn't see either of you post before.

Phillip, somewhere on this site you'll find an old thread all about whatever happened to Susan. I think there is the possibility that she came to Aslan's country another way, later in her life ...

G.E. Boehm
12-05-2005, 05:54 PM
welcome King Phiilip! Yeah, its always a shame about susan but I think thats where C.S. Lewis' christianity shines through. Alot of times I get caught up in the fantasy and fiction and its times like that that reminds me of the Narnia roots.

Orangegoldandgreen
12-05-2005, 07:08 PM
I kind of guessed it a few pages before the ending, I thought it was cool how they thought there was a crash, but then they thought "It's magic." like in Prince Caspian,
Then at the end, Lucy? starts crying about not wanting to go home again, and then Aslan says "Your father and mother and all of you are-as you used to call it in the Shadowlands--dead. The term is over: the holidays have begun. The dream is ended: this is the morning." and I sat there jaw dropped. And then I finished reading the book and sat there and thought about everything. It was wonderful :)

unleavened
12-06-2005, 05:07 PM
Yeah, that was amazing. It just makes you all the more anxious for what's to come.

Orangegoldandgreen
12-06-2005, 06:19 PM
It makes me smile.

Jood
12-08-2005, 09:49 PM
King Philip, why would you want Susan to die? I hope you realize (please pardon my language), that is implied that if Susan would have died and gone to.........hell......... because she was no longer a friend of Narnia/Gods Kingdom/Aslan/God,Christ, and The Holy Spirit.

Narnian_Blade
12-09-2005, 12:18 AM
King Philip, why would you want Susan to die? I hope you realize (please pardon my language), that is implied that if Susan would have died and gone to.........hell......... because she was no longer a friend of Narnia/Gods Kingdom/Aslan/God,Christ, and The Holy Spirit.

Well, in LWW, it is said, "Once a king or Queen in Narnia, always a king or queen in narnia." So I'm sure that if Susan had died, she would have gone to narnia. She simply wasn't pleasing Aslan right before her death.

I think that's like in real life with God. I personally believe that once you become totally comitted to God and make him your Lord, even though you might go through times in your life where disobey and reject him, he won't reject you. And then when you die, you go to heaven. That's my belief.

TomNicholls
01-03-2006, 08:56 AM
Well, in LWW, it is said, "Once a king or Queen in Narnia, always a king or queen in narnia." So I'm sure that if Susan had died, she would have gone to narnia. She simply wasn't pleasing Aslan right before her death.

I think that's like in real life with God. I personally believe that once you become totally comitted to God and make him your Lord, even though you might go through times in your life where disobey and reject him, he won't reject you. And then when you die, you go to heaven. That's my belief.
You're right there; when we make a committment to God and change our lives with that decision, everything we ever did wrong is wiped, and everything we are ever going to do will be ignored because you made that decision. I like the way you linked that with the 'once a King or Queen...' phrase, very stylish!

tnicholls7a@hotmail.com

cathyrh
01-03-2006, 09:14 AM
Susan got to new Narnia/Heaven I reckon (or KNOW), but it only took her longer to realize all about Narnia. As you said, "Ocne a King or Queen of Narnia, always a King or Queen of Narnia." xP

Eowyn_of_rohan
01-05-2006, 02:48 PM
the last battle was one of the most queerest books i have ever read, but, i understood it

Eowyn_of_rohan
01-05-2006, 02:49 PM
Susan got to new Narnia/Heaven I reckon (or KNOW), but it only took her longer to realize all about Narnia. As you said, "Ocne a King or Queen of Narnia, always a King or Queen of Narnia." xP

she didnt because she didnt die, because she was in america, she didnt die in the railway accident

EveningStar
01-05-2006, 03:06 PM
I believe that Susan is like mankind. She fell from innocent grace, matter of factly like Adam or Eve she was newly aware of how she was being seen (hiding behind makeup rather than fig leaves, but you catch my drift).

Still, one must re-read the serpent's tale, how he promised Eve that she would not surely die. That was a half truth. The serpent knew she would not surely die with a capital "D" because a savior would come.

So yes she died, and yet she did not die without a trace.

Susan is like that, out of the garden (Narnia) and yet ultimately the subject of Christ's redeeming love and therefore a recipient of justification through grace. Like Eve, she was expelled from her original paradise. Like Eve she eventually found a new paradise. Even so shall Susan find her paradise in the New Narnia.

Aslan's Beloved Daughter
01-12-2006, 01:03 AM
Yeah, they did. That's why Aslan said that we have passed on, but in the Shadowlands, we are dead.

lions mane
01-12-2006, 01:07 PM
I beleive that once sasan got the news that her whole family had past, she realized that it had to do something with aslan narnia. So my point is that she may have turned back to aslan/christ and narnia.

sarahnarnia1983
01-14-2006, 03:35 PM
yeah i was upset when they died. but they died in our world but they were relesed from their bodies and put in aslan s word. im not sure if that was the case of eustuce and jill. i expect it was.

PrinceOfTheWest
01-14-2006, 03:48 PM
Sure it was - they were on the train, too. It's just that while the others were dropped behind the Stable Door, Jill and Eustace were dropped next to King Tirian where he was tied to the tree. Don't you remember when Jill and Eustace were walking along, talking about what might happen to them back in their world if they were to die in Narnia? And Eustace speculates that they might have gotten "smashed up by British Railways", and how he'd felt an great jolt just before they appeared before Tirian?

They both, of course, eventually went through the Stable Door and joined the others.

TheReaper12131993
01-14-2006, 03:50 PM
which book is this in?

Between_the_Worlds
01-14-2006, 08:23 PM
Reading the Last Battle made me want to cry, the fact the books were over and that C.S. Lewis died. I was about 7 when I asked my mom,"When I go to heaven can I talk to C.S. Lewis?" all I know is that when I get to heaven after meeting the savior I'm asking God where Mr. Lewis is so we can have a nice long chat in God years :D

I read a book once (I can't remember if the title was 'Deadline' or 'Dominion', and I think it was by Randy Alcorn) and during the length of the book, the father is reading LWW to his kids. Anyways, one of his little girls, about 4 or 5, and his wife get killed by accident. This little girl was fascinated with Aslan and when they get to Heaven and meet God, the first thing this little girl does is run up to Him and say "Are you Aslan?"

Oh that made me cry!!!! I forget what He replied, but it was beautiful.

Reading TLB always makes me cry, always and always! It's such a beautiful book, my favorite.

Emperor beyond the Sea
01-15-2006, 04:04 PM
Yeah it's cool how Lewis did that

Narnia's #1 fan
02-07-2006, 03:53 AM
ok, im going to sum this up as easily as i can. for those of you confused about last battle's ending, and the fate of dear ol' Susan,
you should probably try reading the last book of the bible.
REVELATIONS
the last battle's story is based on this book, only revelations takes it to extreme detail, symbolism, and mystery, and yes at times......scary as hell
you don't have to believe what you read in it, ( i've read it many times )
but it'll clear up the questions resolving the last battle.

sarahnarnia1983
02-07-2006, 01:51 PM
Sure it was - they were on the train, too. It's just that while the others were dropped behind the Stable Door, Jill and Eustace were dropped next to King Tirian where he was tied to the tree. Don't you remember when Jill and Eustace were walking along, talking about what might happen to them back in their world if they were to die in Narnia? And Eustace speculates that they might have gotten "smashed up by British Railways", and how he'd felt an great jolt just before they appeared before Tirian?

They both, of course, eventually went through the Stable Door and joined the others.

yes i just reread the book. so yes jill and eustrce did die.

inkspot
02-09-2006, 04:49 PM
which book is this in?
The Last Battle

Magician's Horse
02-11-2006, 08:45 PM
I haven't read Last Battle in a long time. For some reason when I first read the books (I was like 7) and i just read the books in random order. The Last Battle was first. I didn't understand a thing because 1) I was so young and 2) i didn't know anything that happened before. I haven't read it since, but reading this thread really makes me want to. Right now I'm reading all the books through in the "official" order, not publication. I'm on Prince Caspian right now. I can't wait to read TLB again. I didn't get really sad reading TLB, because, like I said, it just went right over me. The first time I cried ever reading a book was when i read The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, when it was found out that Edmund and Lucy could never come back. I really can't wait to read TLB again.

Knight of Narnia
02-11-2006, 08:58 PM
I recently finished TLB again about a month ago, and it really left me feeling sad. You know that all of the children are happier in the true Narnia, but you can't help but feel a sense of sadness about their passing. It was a marvelous and meaningful way to end the book and the series. Only C.S. Lewis could have come up with and ending like that!

Tooks
02-26-2006, 11:23 AM
...i cried for hours too...but if you ever really did read a book carefully the author of the book really had a reason for all of the sadness and fear of the characters

PrinceOfTheWest
02-26-2006, 12:16 PM
Also, did you notice that Lucy and Tirian are both crying? Despite the wonder of the New Narnia, there was true loss at the end of the Old Narnia. As Gandalf puts it, "I will not say, 'do not weep', for not all tears are evil."