Ramandu's Daughter should get a name

[Tsukiko]

I think when they film Voyage of the Dawn Treader, they should give Ramandu's Daughter an actual name. Lewis never gave her one..which..I see..kinda dumb.

But it would not RUIN THE MOVIE....she's not really a major character anyways.

[Ginny_JillPole]

Yeah, me too... I mean, Caspian won't call say something like...
"UH..." with a dumb voice walking toward her "Hello, Ramandu's daughter... umm..."
But it has to be a good name. An unexpected one.
Good idea, I agree totally with you.

[LadyAnneOfNarnia]

Are you sure she didn't have a name in Silver Chair?

[inkspot]

I don't think she ever has a name. How 'bout Nova? That's a kind of star ...

[Tsukiko]

No, she doesnt have a name at all.

Nova sounds alright.

[PrinceOfTheWest]

Actually, a nova is the abrupt explosion of a star. I don't think anyone would want to call her Nova, anymore than anyone would want to call their son "Eruption".

Lucifer ("light-bearer") might be nice, but that's already taken, and with negative connotations at that. Diluxor is a crude attempt at "dawn-wife" in Latin, but it sounds odd to our ears - too much like "deluxe" (which she certainly was, but it sounds more like something you'd say about a washing machine.)

[Tsukiko]

Diluxor

Thats kool. :D

But if they do happen to give her name, which, I have a feeling they may, it better be a good one. Though not much of a main charatcer in the Chronicles, she was pretty kool.

[LadyAnneOfNarnia]

Yeah. I can't think of a good name off the top of my head. But I wouldn't be bothered if they named her. But my sister made a good point that it kind of made her more mysterious and beautiful not having a name at all. If that makes any sense to anyone but me. :D

[inkspot]

How bout Stella then, that's some corruption of a star word, stellar. But it's not very pretty. Or Selena is something to do with the moon -- if only it weren't already taken by a dead singer. Lyra is the name of a star in the sky; how bout that? And Alcyone is the name of a star ... That's kind of nice.

[LadyAnneOfNarnia]

Ooh! ooh! ooh! Those are all nice!

[Tsukiko]

those are nice names inky! I like Lyra, Stella and Alcyone.

[Aravis Kenobi]

I think when they film Voyage of the Dawn Treader, they should give Ramandu's Daughter an actual name. Lewis never gave her one..which..I see..kinda dumb.

But it would not RUIN THE MOVIE....she's not really a major character anyways.

I agree. Having Caspian call her, "Ramandu's Daughter" would get annoying after a while. for him and for us. :p

[QueenSusanofNarnia]

those are nice names inky! I like Lyra, Stella and Alcyone.
I like them! But Alcyone, that's my f avorite.

[Princey]

Lyra and Alcyone sound nice...hi QSoN!

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

yeah...i wonder why he didn't give her a name...she may not be a majopr character but shes my favorite after eustace....

[micoorda]

well if casting is done in voyage of the dawn treader hpefully they might create a name in ramandu's daughter since it is unnamed:)

[~The Narnia Addict~]

Phillis III

[Danny Darnia]

Aida :) or Amphora

[Skulblaka_Shur'tugal]

Hopefully not Arya. Maybe Sento Jones XII

[langtab]

I like the name Kaslin.

[Danny Darnia]

Hopefully not Arya. Maybe Sento Jones XII

How about ARIA (not Arya)? :D

It's a name from my fave manga :rolleyes:

[micoorda]

i know what should be the name of ramandu's daughter,Amalia :rolleyes:

[Danny Darnia]

Errrrr.........why...everyone (including me) seems to try to named her with something wit "A" initial? :D

[LongingforNarnia]

Danica means Morning Star

Hespera means Evening Star (although I'm not sure about this one)

Seina means Star and Nara
and
Seren means Star too.


Ooh!
Chantrea means Light of the Moon. The pronounciation is technically CHAN-thee-a but I think it sounds even better if you pronounce it Shan-tray-uh.

[Dernhelm]

Coriakin and Ramandu are the only named stars in the CoN, I believe. Neither is all the 'star-like', really... but both have three syllables, and are just slightly foreign sounding.

Here are my ideas. :D

Nelennan
Maeve (Perhaps too much connection with Irish mythology?)
Ahmahaia

(Letters in bold are just the ones that seemed to work a couple different ways--ie., I couldn't decide. :p Names are such fun.)

[Miss.SunFlower]

while we're going with A's

Aisling(sp?)

[BarbarianKing]

Betelgeuse

[theorangejello]

hahah mike

hmmmm


uh...

i like the names

isis
esther
Sidra
Sitra
Tarika

all of these names have some meaning with star in them

[LongingforNarnia]

Isis is too well known as an Egyptian name,
Esther is too well known as a Hebrew name,
Sidra and Sitra are too obvious as middle eastern names.
I think the name should be something that practically no one will recognize.

Nelennan sounds too much like melanin.

Maeve is definately too Irish

I do like Ahmahaia, though.

I also think that it would be a good idea to make sure that the name sounds good with "Queen" in front of it.

[Powl']

what about Pauliana, or Lucan

[sarahnarnia1983]

maybe starlight

[Powl']

oh it's not a bad idea !!!

[dayhawk68]

I may be unoriginal but what about just Rama:eek:

[theorangejello]

I may be unoriginal but what about just Rama:eek:

Rama? that a boys name in hindi :p

MY NAME - nope ..not at all.
lol


uh... Cassandra!
:D

[LongingforNarnia]

I like Starlight. That's a really good suggestion.

[theorangejello]

I like Starlight. That's a really good suggestion.


it seems kind of cheesy...but then again...
ehh..

Queen Starlight and King Caspian with Prince Rilian

[dayhawk68]

what about Dione? it means daughter of heaven and earth...that sorta applies to her.
King Caspian and Queen Dione...that kinda flows...

[theorangejello]

what about Dione? it means daughter of heaven and earth...that sorta applies to her.
King Caspian and Queen Dione...that kinda flows...

I like it

:D

[dayhawk68]

I like it

:D

yays!!!!:D

[Powl']

Cassandra sounds really good !!!

[LongingforNarnia]

It's too common though.

[Powl']

I think it's a beautiful name

[sarahnarnia1983]

what about Dione? it means daughter of heaven and earth...that sorta applies to her.
King Caspian and Queen Dione...that kinda flows...

dione is a lovely name. or starsong

[Powl']

no starsong is not my favourite

[sarahnarnia1983]

no starsong is not my favourite

fairplay.dione is nice though

[Powl']

yes it is ;) what about sarah, I mean why wouldn't she have a normal name ?? just az question, of course I understand some people want something ORIGINAL, but in stardust, the star Yvaine, doesn't really have a special name ...

[sarahnarnia1983]

yes it is ;) what about sarah, I mean why wouldn't she have a normal name ?? just az question, of course I understand some people want something ORIGINAL, but in stardust, the star Yvaine, doesn't really have a special name ...

my name is plain and boreing.that why they shouldnt choose that

[Powl']

oh right, it's your name:p no I thought of it because I had this animation serie when I was little called "Princess Sarah" it's a rich girl who became poor but she's the nicest angel in the world :eek: ;)

[theorangejello]

oh right, it's your name:p no I thought of it because I had this animation serie when I was little called "Princess Sarah" it's a rich girl who became poor but she's the nicest angel in the world :eek: ;)

I think names with Star, sound cheesy no offense
she needs a beautiful name.

:D

what about Gaia - it meant Earth in Greek mythology..or was it Roman ???

[Powl']

well then Galia ... it's a flower name in French

[EveningStar]

I might suggest Cassandra? It's from Greek Mythology and the name of a constellation.

[Powl']

yeah someone else proposed it, and I think it's really pretty

[Alices]

What about Alina, Amina or Rana? I kinda like them and I think they sound good with Ramandu.

[Powl']

yes, they're pretty names

[theorangejello]

I might suggest Cassandra? It's from Greek Mythology and the name of a constellation.

hey badger

i proposed that earlier.
:D

[sarahnarnia1983]

How about Kyra

[dayhawk68]

I might suggest Cassandra? It's from Greek Mythology and the name of a constellation.

thats why you shouldnt use it.
plus Cassandra was a prophetess for Apollo and could see into the future. the story is too well known and ppl would be like "Ehh? What?"
plus she had a tragic story in the Troy story.

and its too common

im sticking with Dione.:cool:

[MrBob]

I like the name Dione. I actually thought of that as a middle name for a future potential daughter--Medea Dione.

It shouldn't be too obviously connected to the word star like Stella or Astra and I would hope they go a little more exotic than a common English name. I think they could actually go without naming her, just referring her or calling her such titles as Princess or other royal titles, or you, she and other pronouns.

MrBob

[dayhawk68]

I like the name Dione. I actually thought of that as a middle name for a future potential daughter--Medea Dione.

It shouldn't be too obviously connected to the word star like Stella or Astra and I would hope they go a little more exotic than a common English name. I think they could actually go without naming her, just referring her or calling her such titles as Princess or other royal titles, or you, she and other pronouns.

MrBob

oh thats cool
what does Medea mean?

[Powl']

thats why you shouldnt use it.
plus Cassandra was a prophetess for Apollo and could see into the future. the story is too well known and ppl would be like "Ehh? What?"
plus she had a tragic story in the Troy story.

and its too common

im sticking with Dione.:cool:

yeah, Casandra tells the Troyens that they will be defeated, but they don't believe her and she's killed ... :(:(

[MrBob]

"what does Medea mean?"

dayhawk, Medea is another Greek Mythology name. She was Jason's wife (Jason and the Argonauts). Not exactly the picture of a great family woman as she killed her brother to allow Jason to get away from her father. She also killed their children to get back at Jason after he left her for a princess.

I know, she is not an ideal figure, but I do love that name.

MrBob

[Powl']

what about Ariane ??

[LongingforNarnia]

another idea,

Setara

[BarbarianKing]

Fine. No jokes this time. Here is a star name: Bellatrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_Orionis)

[theorangejello]

but Bellatrix..was evil

....I will always associate that name to HP

[Powl']

so will I !! no not bellatrix for me ... :(:(

[Xenithar]

I think Arora would be a nice name.

[Powl']

Arora, is a Spanish name right ?? hmmm ... why not ?? ;)

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

Maybe Irina? Ethene?

[Josh]

How bout Brittany? Or Katie?

[dayhawk68]

How bout Brittany? Or Katie?

thats not remotly funny....

[BarbarianKing]

We should just leave her alone, like Lewis did. She needs no name.

[Powl']

well, not Brittany

[Josh]

Lol. OF course not Brittany. Sarcasm.

[Powl']

this'd be weird, anyway, I don't think she'll have a name ...

[umbrellaxscenexcore]

They might give her a name. Like the dwarf in LWW didnt have a name did he? and they gave him a name...right?:|
The white witch's dawrfie?

[Copperfox]

That's right, Umbrella: the name Ginarrbrik was made up by a movie writer. Sharing the last syllable with Nikabrik was intentional, a sort of continuity.

[Powl']

yeah .... but we need a special name for her

[Driad54]

I think when they film Voyage of the Dawn Treader, they should give Ramandu's Daughter an actual name. Lewis never gave her one..which..I see..kinda dumb.


But it adds to the mystery..

[Sven-El]

You know, IF the subject of her name comes up, ie as they leave Caspian says something to the effect of, " I do not believe I even know your name..."
They could just have Ramadnu's daughter respond in a fashion similar to Spock in the Original Star Trek series when asked what his last name was. His response was, " I do not believe you could pronounce it."

However in the case of R's daughter it would be less of it being unpronouncable, and more of it being, " To wonderful a name for even the strongest of mortal ears to hear."

[Olórin the Wise]

Alciona, maybe?

[Skandarluver4eva]

Alciona, maybe?

i like that its really pretty!

[Powl']

Aliciona is good :):)

[Narnian Pirate]

Arwen! (just joking!:D) Yeah, she should get a name. Everytime I start talking about Narnia and when I mention her, I always say "Ramandu". Getting her and her father mixed up is terrible!

[Skandarluver4eva]

oh i know right?

[Aravis_yanes]

Mmmmm... I don't like the idea of giving her a name, but I really like the name Mahia :)

[KacieT]

I kinda like the names Dione (as mentioned before) and also Tiara...

[Mss.Pevensie]

Mm I like Dione :D Is very femenine!
I've read in other forum this name "Estrella", what means star in english. I dont know, but she deserve a name ;)

[~Valiant]

I really like Estrella.

Hmm... let's see:

Bonfilia means "good daughter."
Aster means "star."
Sitara means "starlight."
Sidra means "Star born."
Marianela means "beloved star."
Aspasia means "welcome."
Salome means "welcome/peace."
Eleora means "the Lord is my Light." --- I like this one a lot.

[Josh]

I like the name Eleora. Lets go with that!!!

[EveningStar]

If she's a five pointed star, MARY SMITH

If she's a six pointed star, ESTHER GOLDSTEIN

Sorry, couldn't resist being a little mischogeh, oy! :D

[General Oreius]

If they do come up with a name, it'll be true to the world of Narnia, just like Oreius (:D) or Otmin or Asterius were, and those were entirely original.

[Shadow_Kitty]

Ooh! This thread has some awesome name ideas, I think most of them would work gorgeously.

[EveningStar]

Mrs. Caspian? :p

[Sven-El]

Mrs. Caspian? :p

But... then you ahve to give Caspian a First name....

[EveningStar]

Billy Ray Caspian...

[BarbarianKing]

After thinking about it, as much as I like Billy Ray Caspian ;), I like LeRoy Caspian better!!

[Sven-El]

After thinking about it, as much as I like Billy Ray Caspian ;), I like LeRoy Caspian better!!

Yes! That is perfect! LeRoy Caspian the Xth. Mr. & Mrs. LeRoy Caspian.... it has a nice ring to it.

[MrBob]

But Caspian was his first name. He never had a last name. None of the royal families outside of Calormen had a last name (that we know) except for the Pevensies.

So we would need to give him a last name, like Woods or Brown or whatever you think would be exceptionally royal. I just chose more down-to-earth names.

justBob

[Sven-El]

But Caspian was his first name. He never had a last name. None of the royal families outside of Calormen had a last name (that we know) except for the Pevensies.

So we would need to give him a last name, like Woods or Brown or whatever you think would be exceptionally royal. I just chose more down-to-earth names.

justBob

How about....

Ctzee ( pronounced SEE) ....

Caspian Ctzee.

[Aravis_yanes]

I really like Estrella.

Hmm... let's see:

Bonfilia means "good daughter."
Aster means "star."
Sitara means "starlight."
Sidra means "Star born."
Marianela means "beloved star."
Aspasia means "welcome."
Salome means "welcome/peace."
Eleora means "the Lord is my Light." --- I like this one a lot.

From this ones I like Aspasia and Aster those ones sounds really cool...

I have a doubt Caspian is a first or a last name??????

[Lexy]

Yeah I defnitely agree with that and think she should be called something like Starlight, Skye, Moonlight, Midnight or something night or star related:)

[LongingforNarnia]

I like Aster. It goes good with "Queen" in front of it. Queen Aster.

[BarbarianKing]

While it is nice to speculate on a name, I hope she doesn't have one in the movie!!

[Narborg]

Joy. After C S Lewis' wife.

[CaspianGirl]

How 'bout Ephira?(Eff-er-ah) That sounds like a good name. :)

[-Daughter of Eve-]

While it is nice to speculate on a name, I hope she doesn't have one in the movie!!

My thoughts exactly!

[tirian_son_of_erlian]

I agree, Ramandu's Daughter should get a name. It should be: RAMANDU'S DAUGHTER.

[Aravis_yanes]

I agree, Ramandu's Daughter should get a name. It should be: RAMANDU'S DAUGHTER.

I totally agree!

[Copperfox]

But if a scene were filmed in which we saw Ramandu joining his daughter for breakfast, it would be ridiculous for him to say, "Good morning, Ramandu's Daughter." I am positive that, if the daughter had been going to have more "onstage" time, Lewis would have given her a name.

[Glenburne]

I guess, if her father was present in all her scenes, he could just call her "Daughter"--some men do that. But if there are any scenes of her talking privately with Caspian, a name might become necessary (depending on how they structure the scenes). Caspian can't very well get away with calling her "Daughter."

[Narniamoondust]

Yes that would sound really weird. But I do have a really pretty name I use for her. It's Ivaylo.
It mean's wolf,but who cares!
In my fanfic's she's my character's sister and she can transform into a wolf so that's why i used it.
But it's still pretty. IF ONLY CASPIAN DIDN'T HAVE A FREAKIN' BEARD!
(I thought he was supposed to be fifteen or so? and the tight pants? Eahh i'm not looking forward to seeing this)

[Copperfox]

IVAYLO: would the middle syllable of that name rhyme with the English word "sale," or with the English word "file"?

[MrBob]

"Caspian can't very well get away with calling her 'Daughter.' "

No Glenburne, but he can call her Lady or My Lady (M'Lady). They can easily get around with not giving her a proper name.

MrBob

[DancesWithDryads]

There's a campain going on on Narnia FanFic Revolution for them to name RD "Caulitha", which means something like "of the stars" (For those not farmiliar to fanfic, Caulitha is the name of RD in one of the best fanfics on the web, The Changing of the Constellations) I think that might be cool, and get fanfic some recognition, but Lewis never gave her a name and I don't really see the need for her to have one, unless they spend alot of time on her which I seriously hope they don't. My greatest fear is that they'll give her something totally lame like "Starr" or "Moon", or else something that sounds more like a hippie than an acual daughter of a Narnian star.

[Sven-El]

"Caspian can't very well get away with calling her 'Daughter.' "

No Glenburne, but he can call her Lady or My Lady (M'Lady). They can easily get around with not giving her a proper name.

MrBob

or My Dear.

For that matter, Rillian could easily just call her "mother." After all, unless he is Eustace Clarence Scrubb who calls his parents Harold and Alberta most children call their parents "father", and "mother." or some form of it.

So I agree there could be a way around it and make her feel like she's actually an important character. ( perhaps if they get to Silver Chair add a breif throw away line of, "His majesty was so greived by her death that he ordered no one speak her name, less it rend his heart once again.")

But on a silly note.. her name could be Moon Unit!:D

[DancesWithDryads]

or My Dear.
But on a silly note.. her name could be Moon Unit!:D

That....Would.....Be.....AMAZING!!!!!!!!! Moon unit FTW! WoOt!

[tirian_son_of_erlian]

I guess I just don't understand people's reasoning! I think it's neat for her not to have a name for several reasons. First, that's the way Lewis designed things-Ramandu's daughter is in two books, yet nameless. Obviously that's Lewis' intention. Also, I think it would be a disrespectful little bit of a slap in the face to Lewis to name her anything and would diffuse the mystery surrounding this lovely woman.

[Narniamoondust]

IVAYLO: would the middle syllable of that name rhyme with the English word "sale," or with the English word "file"?

I don't quite get the question.
all i said was that Ivaylo was pretty and that's the name i use for her in MY VOTD story.
Come to think of it, I'M GONNA HAVE TO THINK OF AN EXCUSE FOR CASPIAN'S BEHAVIOUR AROUND HE RIN MY STORY!
(Because Ivaylo is Tigerlily's sis and Caspian can't shmooze around her!)
Besides my caspian is way too faithfull...hmmm.
Sorry,don't mean to clog up the thread. Just thinking to myself.....:o

[MrBob]

"I don't quite get the question."

NMD, Copper as just asking how you pronounced the name Ivaylo.

Is it {ee-vail-o} or {ee-vile-o}

MrBob

[LadyEm]

I guess, if her father was present in all her scenes, he could just call her "Daughter"--some men do that. But if there are any scenes of her talking privately with Caspian, a name might become necessary (depending on how they structure the scenes). Caspian can't very well get away with calling her "Daughter."

No, but he could call her "wife" but I'm sure he would tire of having a nameless wife. Narnians could call her "the Queen", but that doesn't have the same sort of regal ring to it that names have.


It is wonderful and mysterious to have her nameless during that initial scene where Caspian, Lucy and Edmund initially meet her. It does add to her beauty and allure. But, after the awe and mystery have passed and she becomes a real person, she does deserve a name because being nameless is only interesting if you don't know her. She becomes Caspian's wife and a great Queen of Narnia - its only right she has a name, because I think we all would like to get to know her a little better.

I looked up a few names...going with the "a" theme:

Aysel - "moonlight"
Arella - "angel, messenger"
Ariella - "Lioness of God" (which wouldn't work because Ariel is too much like the mermaid, but Lioness has Narnian conotations :D)
Andalee - "nightinggale"
Amara - "eternally beautiful, paradise"
Amira - "princess, ruler"
Alena - "russian form of Helena" (the first Queen of Narnia was called Helen)

Some others:
Celena, Celeste: "heavenly", Callista "most beautiful", Dolunay "full moon" Kamaria "like the moon", Leorah "light to me", Levana "moon", Oralee "my light", Rya "to dream, Sahira "earth moon, spring that flows"

[Chisha92]

I was looking at the cast of Dawn Treader online and I didn't see Ramandu. I even googled it. If he isn't in the film it stands to reason that RD would have to get a name because we can't refer to her by her parentage as was done in the book.