Here's a Question for You...

[Checkmate]

This is something that has been racking my brain for quite a long time. Are the Archenlanders, Lone Islanders, and Calormens Sons of Adam and Daughters of Eve?

[Aslan the Wise one]

Mmm, That's a hard one Checkmate i well talk to some of my Expart C.S.Leiws friends to see what they got to say.............

[Checkmate]

Mmm, That's a hard one Checkmate i well talk to some of my Expart C.S.Leiws friends to see what they got to say.............
That sounds like a most excellent idea...
(Post #100) :D

[Aslan the Wise one]

Well I talk with them, becose the kind of Narnia stuff i'm not that good so here is what they sid,

Chapter 14 "The Planting of the Tree" when Frank and Helen are crowned, Aslan says to them, "Rise up King and Queen of Narnia, father and mother of many kings that shall be in Narnia and the Isles and Archenland..."

Then again, you know, the Telmarines came to Narnia from an island cave entrance in our world. Remember they were pirates and natives on some remote island before they stumbled into Telmar. So maybe the Calormens come from a similar source.

I hope this helps.

[inkspot]

AtWO has it right -- Frank and Helen were the parents of the humans until the Telmarines came, and Frank and Helen's children were kings of Archenland and Lone Isles.

[borntofly]

The Telmarines were also Sons and Daughters of Eve, they came from our world.

[inkspot]

That's right, BTF.

[legolas]

ya, any "son of adam or daughter of ever" if a human.

[Aslan the Wise one]

Good Qustion legolas, but I got another for you all, How many times does The White Wich die and is the a BIbical thing behind that??, way i'm asking is a friend of mine just got to with The Siver Chier and he wnated to know an i could't tell him so I thought I would ask you all..................

[borntofly]

That's a good question. Aslan triumphed over her and she was killed , But remember in PC she could be called up again. She was crushed just as the devil is and always will be by God. The Lady of the green kirtle was a witch, but was she Jadis? I do not know, but I don't think that Jadis was ever called up again, she lived and was killed.

[Hope96]

The Lady of the green kirtle was a witch, but was she Jadis? I do not know, but I don't think that Jadis was ever called up again, she lived and was killed.
I agree. I don't think this was Jadis. I think the book kind of left it up to our imagination.....but it never specified that this was the same witch from the LWW and MN.

[Aslan the Wise one]

think you, for the posts i well tell him that..........

[inkspot]

**MN Spoilers**

We see Jadis eat the stolen apple in MN that we know grants eternal life to the one who eats it in Narnia (although not on earth). So in fact, I don't think Jadis can die. I think she lives on as a spirit of half a person, rather like Voledmort in the HP books after his tangle with baby Harry. He has a wretched half life, but it is still, essentially, a life.

[holyboy]

***BEWARE OF LB SPOILERS***

So next question: If Jadis can't die, what happened to her when Narnia was destroyed?

[benjamin_narnialover]

you'd think she'd die with narnia, but if not she could always rock out in an empty, dark cold world by herslef.

[inkspot]

**TLB Spoilers**

I would say at that time she was so completely diminished in power that she just turned up with the rest of the Narnians for judgment and vanished into the shadows with all the baddies. But I am just guessing ... CSL never explained, but then he probably never imagined us dissecting each book and character. :o

[Gibby]

Perhaps the witch was some time of demon. Or maybe the witches and Tash were the same being? Who knows.

[legolas]

i personally think. that cs lewis had the witch die, and that represented a well, "depression" for satan, when Jesus rose again. but there was still sin. so there had to be another satan being in narnia, so he created tash, to replace the WW.

[inkspot]

i personally think. that cs lewis had the witch die, and that represented a well, "depression" for satan, when Jesus rose again. but there was still sin. so there had to be another satan being in narnia, so he created tash, to replace the WW.
Well that is an interesting idea.

[Aslan the Wise one]

That is very instring inkspot think you for that thought legolas.......

[legolas]

ok, i found this book called: "Finding God in the Land of Narnia" by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware. The authors of "Finding God in The Lord of the Rings". I havn't read it yet but i will post regurally on what i think ya'll might want to know.

[Gibby]

ok, i found this book called: "Finding God in the Land of Narnia" by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware. The authors of "Finding God in The Lord of the Rings". I havn't read it yet but i will post regurally on what i think ya'll might want to know.

AtWO posted some questions for discussion on the thread, "Chapter one". This is under Christianity and Narnia

[legolas]

ok... I just read like... 1-2 pages. and the pattern that i think they are doing. is briefly going over certain parts of the book and then telling what it means or something. although on the next page a saw a quote from tolkien.

[Gibby]

ok... I just read like... 1-2 pages. and the pattern that i think they are doing. is briefly going over certain parts of the book and then telling what it means or something. although on the next page a saw a quote from tolkien.
pretty much, yeah.

[inkspot]

Legolas, join our reading group if you want -- I just got the book, too. The chapters are short, and if you know the Narnia books real well, you can kind of skim where he tells part of the story (once you recognize which story it is) then just read how they compare it to the Bible. It's pretty good.

Then just post your thoughts on what you've read over in the chapter one thread.

[legolas]

ok, sounds cool! thx! be right there!