Comments on: Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader Logo Surfaces

By: Tarwe, the Narnian Elf

Tarwe, the Narnian Elf — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:41:58 +0000

Wow!! Can’t wait for “The Voyage of the Dawn Treader”!

By: Mark Sommer

Mark Sommer — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:01:18 +0000

This will be my last post to this topic. I will not even reply to the accusations in the last post. I will let the reader judge from what is printed. If anything I said was offensive, I apologize.

I do invite you to read my views about this on Hollywood Jesus. Hopefully by reading it you will know why this is so important to me. Here is the link: http://live.hollywoodjesus.com/?p=4108

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:46:27 +0000

Mark, you may be well-advised to step back and put this in perspective. We are here talking about a photograph of what looks to be the logo for “Voyage of the Dawn Treader.” Because it is a photograph of another image, its quality will necessarily be less than that of the original.

Nevertheless, it is merely a picture. We are not debating logical form, inductive or deductive reasoning, or the like. If that is your desire, surely there are more important objects to which your energies (and time) could be directed. Your bellicose approach here–invoking charged terms as “insipid” and “absurd”–and heavy skepticism seem oddly out of place.

I have read your posts carefully. And perhaps you should return the favor: I never said this logo was “official.”

Sheesh.

By: Mark Sommer

Mark Sommer — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:04:32 +0000

Your logic completely escapes me. Does this poor-quality logo look like an “official logo?” I certainly hope that this is not the type of quality Fox is going to use in its ad campaign!
But, even putting that aside, am I then to take every fan-created picture out there as “official” if it “looks like a duck?” I think not.
If you have a logical argument or evidence to present, then present it. These insipid non-arguments are absurd. You are setting up silly straw men.
Please read closely what I have said. I never stated that I am sure this “logo” was not official or that it was not at the Expo. I have no way of knowing if either is the case, and apparently neither does anyone who has replied thus far. But, I have raised some legitimate questions about the source of this photo that have not been addressed. Not all that glitters is gold.
Sheesh. What do they teach in schools nowadays? Apparently not logic. (

By: Jonathon

Jonathon — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:16:18 +0000

mongoose?

Nah, usually it’s a duck.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:42:19 +0000

Whats that saying? “If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, chances are it’s a …. “

By: Mark Sommer

Mark Sommer — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:18:38 +0000

Thanks, Paul.

Here’s the link to the article if anyone is interested: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118004915.html?categoryid=18&cs=1

I am still rather perplexed at how Jim Hill handled this–why the picture is not credited as the property of 20th Century Fox or Walden Media. And I’m sure that Fox did not intend for the image (assuming it was there) to be distributed to the public, but was only used to garner the interest of the marketers attending the Expo (which would perhaps explain the lack of quality). Wasn’t it Jim Hill who released the LWW logo early?

Plus, “high profile pics” seems to mean “high profile movies,” and does not really refer to the logo. Your characterization that this is “an official verification of that being an official image” is quite a stretch.

By: Paul Martin

Paul Martin — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:19:32 +0000

Here’s something I would call an official verification of that being an official image.

From Variety: High-profile pics being pushed at this year’s Licensing Show were Sony’s fourth “Spider-Man” and “Smurfs,” WB’s “Jonah Hex,” U’s toon “Despicable Me,” Fox’s “Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel” and “Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader,” DreamWorks Animation’s “How to Train Your Dragon,” and Disney’s “Toy Story 3,” “Tron” and “Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.”

By: Mark Sommer

Mark Sommer — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:45:26 +0000

Yes, but that does not come closer to answering any of my questions. Certainly not all of the pictures on that page were taken at the Expo. I did not say he fabricated it, but he does not give proper credit as he does the Dreamworks pictures, which are obviously shots of some kind of display. The Chipmunk pictures, on the other hand, look like they were downloaded from an official source, and NOT taken at the Expo.
The Dawn Treader picture is unique in that it is not credited, nor does it look like the other pictures obviously taken at the Expo. Look how perfectly square it is. None of the other pictures are like that (except the Chipmunk pics). I am not saying that Jim Hill made it up, nor can I find a match on the Internet that would indicate it is fan-created. But, my observations and reservations are still valid, and nothing anyone has said here has shown me otherwise.

By: Paul Martin

Paul Martin — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:30:36 +0000

See Mike’s comment below. I also have not known Jim Hill to make stuff up. He is well known around Disney for sometime’s embellishing on things, but overall he doesn’t tend to include things superfluously.